Sex before marriage?

[Erumaron]

Dumar the hopeless romantic. Who'd have thought?

[Tenks]

Oh shut up Dumar that is one of the dumbest things I have read on the internet. Sometimes what you want in bed isn't what the female wants and vice versa. Sexual attraction is equally as important and emotional attraction to a strong and healthy relationship. Why go into a lifelong commitment on blind faith that you two will be sexually compatible. Take off your mormon underpants and take a glance at the real world and it's real people.

[Azrayne]

Originally Posted by Dumar

you guys have this backwards. well to be precise, society screwed it up to the point where you're culturally taught backwards.

sex is supposed to be (if you respect marriage) the act of love. it's this act of love that solidifies the bond between two people in a physical manner. saying things like 'sexually compatible' doesn't make sense in the context of marriage. sexual compatibility naturally follows emotional love. anyone who is emotionally in love will be 'sexually compatible' because it's an act of that love. society has screwed it up to the point where any freedom is okay because it's what the person wants to do or believe. in terms of marriage and 'love', this isn't necessarily the case, and just because it's freedom doesn't make it right.

I knew your post would be completely fucking retarded before I even clicked the thread. Am I psychic or what?

[Vatoreus]

Originally Posted by Dumar

you guys have this backwards. well to be precise, society screwed it up to the point where you're culturally taught backwards.

sex is supposed to be (if you respect marriage) the act of love. it's this act of love that solidifies the bond between two people in a physical manner. saying things like 'sexually compatible' doesn't make sense in the context of marriage. sexual compatibility naturally follows emotional love. anyone who is emotionally in love will be 'sexually compatible' because it's an act of that love. society has screwed it up to the point where any freedom is okay because it's what the person wants to do or believe. in terms of marriage and 'love', this isn't necessarily the case, and just because it's freedom doesn't make it right.

You are seriously on anachronistic bastard, you know that? Everything was better 10-50 years ago in your eyes...

[Dumar]

it has nothing to do with me. i really don't even like marriage. but if you respect marriage as an institution, then you should respect it all, including the meaning and importance of sex.

[Tenks]

What if you are atheist/agnostic and view marriage as a union between two people making a lifelong commitment to one another and disregard the religious bullshit that it entails?

[Dumar]

Originally Posted by Tenks

What if you are atheist/agnostic and view marriage as a union between two people making a lifelong commitment to one another and disregard the religious bullshit that it entails?

then you're picking and choosing what you want that's convenient with your worldview and beliefs. i mean, i can celebrate the 4th of july next month as gaining independence from the xenu, but that really doesn't make sense, but it works for me.

[Azrayne]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Dumar again.

Stupid system.

[Astrocreep]

99% of people are not porn stars, they do what comes natural. its ridiculous to judge someone you are supposed to love at how well they fuck. if how they fuck is that important to you then you probably shouldnt have gotten married. i lost my virginity at 13 but i can see why some people wait til they get married to have sex. not everyone has access to porn or has open parents. i was lucky, my next door neighbor was a little slut, she taught me things about my wiener i had no clue even existed.

[Tenks]

Originally Posted by Dumar

then you're picking and choosing what you want that's convenient with your worldview and beliefs. i mean, i can celebrate the 4th of july next month as gaining independence from the xenu, but that really doesn't make sense, but it works for me.

WTF does patriotism have to do with marriage? I swear to god I never understood why you were so hated on this forum Dumar but you're proving it to me.

[Azrayne]

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

99% of people are not porn stars, they do what comes natural. its ridiculous to judge someone you are supposed to love at how well they fuck. if how they fuck is that important to you then you probably shouldnt have gotten married. i lost my virginity at 13 but i can see why some people wait til they get married to have sex. not everyone has access to porn or has open parents. i was lucky, my next door neighbor was a little slut, she taught me things about my wiener i had no clue even existed.

Well personally, if I'm going to be having sex with the same woman the rest of my life, I'd like to know that it's at least going to be enjoyable. Sex is one of the basic human pleasures in life, and there's no way I'm dooming myself to a future of shitty sex because I married someone who thinks missionary position is the be all end all of bedroom fun.

[Screamfeeder]

Originally Posted by Dumar

then you're picking and choosing what you want that's convenient with your worldview and beliefs.

Yeah fuck that! No picking and choosing!

Originally Posted by Dumar

sex is supposed to be (if you respect marriage) the act of love.

Oh...I thought (if you respect marriage) it was for procreation only and not enjoyment...I guess I'm not supposed to be looking THAT far back and only look back to the last couple of decades?

Help me out here Dumar. When is it ok to pick and choose? I need to know these things so I can be like you one day.

[rangoth]

Originally Posted by Soygen

This. I really can't even fathom marrying someone before knowing them intimately as well.

OMG I know! What if the first time after you get hitched you go for it and it is just flat out terrible? Or she has a giant jungle bush....or who knows what else!

I am never getting married(lifestyle doesn't support other people very well), but I do agree with pre-married fucking.

[Dumar]

i told you it's not about me. again, i don't care for marriage.

if you pick and choose bits and pieces, it kinda loses its meaning. you got people respecting the bond of marriage between two people, but those same two people doesn't respect the bond on which it was founded to begin with? it really doesn't make sense.

the truth is culture picks and chooses what it wants and throws out the rest. people want to have sex before getting married, so they change the definition of what love and sex is in relation to marriage. it's now okay to do so people can feel good about it.

if you take a step back, it's very inconsistent. it's like xenu on the 4th.

[Azrayne]

I only approve of heterosexual sex in the missionary position with the lights out for the sole purpose of recreation.