BBQ Rights - The Bane of the Fat People - Page 4

Greyskye · 05-03-2009, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quineloe

Are you kidding? Jews only ride in the back of trucks here.

The things I could do with that quote boggles the mind.

Ticidious · 05-03-2009, 04:39 AM

If the government really wants to solve the gun crime issues than they should be focusing on removing guns from the hands of criminals not law abiding citizens. Yes crimes are committed by legal handguns and undoubtedly some are stolen and used in crimes but it's much lower than the equivalent crimes committed with illegal guns. Personally, however; I think there are numerous other legal things in the country that kill more people such as tobacco and alcohol and yet they aren't in danger of being made illegal.

Frankly until the government goes out and cracks down on illegal weapons and can actually show they have cleared out 99% of them from the country I refuse to give any consideration to giving up my second amendment rights. Not to say that I would be willing to give up guns at that point but it would certainly provide a far more compelling basis for getting rid of civilian weapons.

OneofOne · 05-03-2009, 05:23 AM

According to the CDC, gun deaths in California between 99-05 worked out like so:

11,730 - homicides
10,159 - suicides
518 - accidents
127 - undetermined intent

I just found it interesting, I'm not arguing for either side at this point.

BrotherWu · 05-03-2009, 07:08 AM

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

- Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto
(Japanese Navy)

I did a little checking but I can't find a good source for it. It's an interesting argument for an armed citizenry, although there were certainly other reasons for Japan not to go further into U.S. soil than the Aleutians.

I own quite a few guns for various reasons. I do a little hunting; I like to have a defense for my family and it's also fun just to plink around. Some of you dipshits suggesting doves with a BB gun should get out of your
game chair sometime and go shoot a round of skeet or sporting clays. It's a lot of fun.

By the way, OP, get your driver's license up to date and then get your 870. And, here's the standard camp dove recipe:

Fillet the dove breasts (can be actually be done with no knife!).
Marinate over night in 50% white wine, 50% Italian dressing.
Wrap the breast around a thin slice of jalapeno and onion.
Wrap that in bacon (best to remove most of the fat).
Stick a toothpick through it, add some black pepper.
Grill. Don't overcook it because the breasts are lean and will drive out.

Yum.

GrobbeeTrull2.0 · 05-03-2009, 07:20 AM

Guns won't win us our country back in your Libertarian fantasies. In a world driven by popular opinion, media and political correctness, guns don't do shit.

Gandhi was more right than any of you:

"There are many causes that I am prepared to die for but no causes that I am prepared to kill for."

"A non-violent army acts unlike armed men, as well in times of peace as in times of disturbances. Theirs will be the duty of bringing warring communities together, carrying peace propaganda, engaging in activities that would bring and keep them in touch with every single person in their parish or division. Such an army should be ready to cope with any emergency, and in order to still the frenzy of mobs should risk their lives in numbers sufficient for that purpose. ...Satyagraha (truth-force) brigades can be organized in every village and every block of buildings in the cities. [If the non-violent society is attacked from without] there are two ways open to non-violence. To yield possession, but non-cooperate with the aggressor...prefer death to submission. The second way would be non-violent resistance by the people who have been trained in the non-violent way...The unexpected spectacle of endless rows upon rows of men and women simply dying rather than surrender to the will of an aggressor must ultimately melt him and his soldiery...A nation or group which has made non-violence its final policy cannot be subjected to slavery even by the atom bomb.... The level of non-violence in that nation, if that even happily comes to pass, will naturally have risen so high as to command universal respect."

Laedrun · 05-03-2009, 07:40 AM

omgeh, this thread again? >;p

p.s. you're such a faggot grobbee. <3 <3 <3!

Lleauaric~EW · 05-03-2009, 07:52 AM

Look at the Middle East and Africa.

Everyone and their mother has an AK and they are armed to the teeth....

Does it make them the slightest bit more free? Do they have any rights to speak of?

Zehn - Vhex · 05-03-2009, 08:19 AM

So is everyone in Wisconsin. We're doing pretty good. Had a problem with a cannibal a few years back though. Been pretty quiet since. Though to be honest the only gun I own is a nerf longshot. 8(

ps: Now that Obama is president and we're no longer racist, can I suggest banning black people? That's like, half the gun problem right there, gone!

Candiarie · 05-03-2009, 08:23 AM

Lleauaric, all of the conflicts I can think of in Africa and the Middle East involve the people with arms oppressing people without them, or civil war. In either case it's not relevant to this topic. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, I just can't think of any examples.

That said I adore my Glock more than most any other utility in my house (electric razor is a close second), and would support the NRA had it not been for the whole outright lying about Obama thing during the campaign. I might still support them indirectly through the GSSF, not sure.

edit: as was already pointed out, gun control laws dont curb crime so fuck spending the money and pissing people off. we could spend the money that we spend lobbying for and against on better causes, and also spend less on regulation. I feel the same way about drug enforcement though so apparently I am in the minority

Vatoreus · 05-03-2009, 08:33 AM

What about the fact that the party that fights gun laws being the party that is the biggest destroyer of the US freedoms we're supposed to be protecting...?

Chanur · 05-03-2009, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fandiin

Best part about this thread is all of the people that constantly talk shit about the conspiracy theorists on this board and come across in this thread like they are waiting on the military to be knocking on their doors and take away their guns and lead them away to the fema camps

Yeah because the government has never locked anyone up in camps before, or gone door to door taking away guns.

GrobbeeTrull2.0 · 05-03-2009, 10:02 AM

Or used false flag tactics, or... or...

Tangurena · 05-03-2009, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simas

You gotta have it mailed? Every state ive had em in (granted only 3) you just get it on the spot.

That's changed. To be REAL-ID compliant, they have to mail it to you in order to guarantee that the address on the license is your real address. No more "1060 W Addison."

In any event, I strongly recommend that you get a passport: both the passport book and the passport card. You can't leave America without a passport now, and it can take a couple months to get one. While the card is only good for ground travel to MX or CA, it meets the REAL-ID requirement, so that if your state refuses to comply (like MT), you can still get on an airplane with the passport card.

EmpireF4i · 05-03-2009, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrobbeeTrull2.0

Guns won't win us our country back in your Libertarian fantasies. In a world driven by popular opinion, media and political correctness, guns don't do shit.

Gandhi was more right than any of you:

"There are many causes that I am prepared to die for but no causes that I am prepared to kill for."

"A non-violent army acts unlike armed men, as well in times of peace as in times of disturbances. Theirs will be the duty of bringing warring communities together, carrying peace propaganda, engaging in activities that would bring and keep them in touch with every single person in their parish or division. Such an army should be ready to cope with any emergency, and in order to still the frenzy of mobs should risk their lives in numbers sufficient for that purpose. ...Satyagraha (truth-force) brigades can be organized in every village and every block of buildings in the cities. [If the non-violent society is attacked from without] there are two ways open to non-violence. To yield possession, but non-cooperate with the aggressor...prefer death to submission. The second way would be non-violent resistance by the people who have been trained in the non-violent way...The unexpected spectacle of endless rows upon rows of men and women simply dying rather than surrender to the will of an aggressor must ultimately melt him and his soldiery...A nation or group which has made non-violence its final policy cannot be subjected to slavery even by the atom bomb.... The level of non-violence in that nation, if that even happily comes to pass, will naturally have risen so high as to command universal respect."

Youre a moron. WTF has peace ever solved?

Lleauaric~EW · 05-03-2009, 12:40 PM

Some of you missed my point, so allow me to elaborate.

Your gun isn't protecting Democracy. Statistically, its not even keeping you or your family safer. But thats fine. You have a right to own them. But can we please, for fucks sake, stop trying to wrap ourselves in the American flag in justifying having them.

Guns are the equivalent of Porn. You have a right to own and enjoy certain types of them. Yay for you. But they serve no greater good than your own enjoyment.

You want to protect your rights? Stop being so fucking ignorant. Get involved in local politics, hold your representatives responsible. Turn off the fucking TV, especially for your kids. Read the fucking news. Apathy and willful ignorance will destroy our constitution a hell of a lot faster than men in black helicopters, ACORN or Magical Marxist Negros.

But way too many Americans labor under the false premise that because they own a gun they are somehow doing their patriotic duty.. what the fuck ever, like puting a magnetic yellow bow on the back of your 8mpg SUV to support the troops in Oil-ville is patriotic

You can have all the guns you want.. but if you are ignorant and unaware, you are a slave waiting to happen.

05-03-2009, 07:20 AM	#50 (permalink)
GrobbeeTrull2.0 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 4,173	Guns won't win us our country back in your Libertarian fantasies. In a world driven by popular opinion, media and political correctness, guns don't do shit. Gandhi was more right than any of you: "There are many causes that I am prepared to die for but no causes that I am prepared to kill for." "A non-violent army acts unlike armed men, as well in times of peace as in times of disturbances. Theirs will be the duty of bringing warring communities together, carrying peace propaganda, engaging in activities that would bring and keep them in touch with every single person in their parish or division. Such an army should be ready to cope with any emergency, and in order to still the frenzy of mobs should risk their lives in numbers sufficient for that purpose. ...Satyagraha (truth-force) brigades can be organized in every village and every block of buildings in the cities. [If the non-violent society is attacked from without] there are two ways open to non-violence. To yield possession, but non-cooperate with the aggressor...prefer death to submission. The second way would be non-violent resistance by the people who have been trained in the non-violent way...The unexpected spectacle of endless rows upon rows of men and women simply dying rather than surrender to the will of an aggressor must ultimately melt him and his soldiery...A nation or group which has made non-violence its final policy cannot be subjected to slavery even by the atom bomb.... The level of non-violence in that nation, if that even happily comes to pass, will naturally have risen so high as to command universal respect." __________________ "When the last tree has died; and the last river been poisoned; and the last fish been caught, we will realise that we cannot eat money." - Cree proverb

05-03-2009, 07:52 AM	#52 (permalink)
Lleauaric~EW "Hamburgers, the cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast" Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,593 +52 Internets	Look at the Middle East and Africa. Everyone and their mother has an AK and they are armed to the teeth.... Does it make them the slightest bit more free? Do they have any rights to speak of? __________________ Ask yourself....

05-03-2009, 08:23 AM	#54 (permalink)
Candiarie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 978 +0 Internets	Lleauaric, all of the conflicts I can think of in Africa and the Middle East involve the people with arms oppressing people without them, or civil war. In either case it's not relevant to this topic. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, I just can't think of any examples. That said I adore my Glock more than most any other utility in my house (electric razor is a close second), and would support the NRA had it not been for the whole outright lying about Obama thing during the campaign. I might still support them indirectly through the GSSF, not sure. edit: as was already pointed out, gun control laws dont curb crime so fuck spending the money and pissing people off. we could spend the money that we spend lobbying for and against on better causes, and also spend less on regulation. I feel the same way about drug enforcement though so apparently I am in the minority __________________ Last edited by Candiarie; 05-03-2009 at 08:26 AM..

05-03-2009, 08:33 AM	#55 (permalink)
Vatoreus Forza Roma! Forza Azzuri! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Angelo, TX Posts: 3,861 -22 Internets	What about the fact that the party that fights gun laws being the party that is the biggest destroyer of the US freedoms we're supposed to be protecting...? __________________ UOWoW Vator Druid Vatoreus // Death Knight // Blackhand

05-03-2009, 10:02 AM	#57 (permalink)
GrobbeeTrull2.0 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 4,173	Or used false flag tactics, or... or... __________________ "When the last tree has died; and the last river been poisoned; and the last fish been caught, we will realise that we cannot eat money." - Cree proverb

05-03-2009, 04:39 AM	#47 (permalink)
Ticidious Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 60 +1 Internets	If the government really wants to solve the gun crime issues than they should be focusing on removing guns from the hands of criminals not law abiding citizens. Yes crimes are committed by legal handguns and undoubtedly some are stolen and used in crimes but it's much lower than the equivalent crimes committed with illegal guns. Personally, however; I think there are numerous other legal things in the country that kill more people such as tobacco and alcohol and yet they aren't in danger of being made illegal. Frankly until the government goes out and cracks down on illegal weapons and can actually show they have cleared out 99% of them from the country I refuse to give any consideration to giving up my second amendment rights. Not to say that I would be willing to give up guns at that point but it would certainly provide a far more compelling basis for getting rid of civilian weapons.

05-03-2009, 05:23 AM	#48 (permalink)
OneofOne Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 922	According to the CDC, gun deaths in California between 99-05 worked out like so: 11,730 - homicides 10,159 - suicides 518 - accidents 127 - undetermined intent I just found it interesting, I'm not arguing for either side at this point.

05-03-2009, 07:08 AM	#49 (permalink)
BrotherWu Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 172 -1 Internets	"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto (Japanese Navy) I did a little checking but I can't find a good source for it. It's an interesting argument for an armed citizenry, although there were certainly other reasons for Japan not to go further into U.S. soil than the Aleutians. I own quite a few guns for various reasons. I do a little hunting; I like to have a defense for my family and it's also fun just to plink around. Some of you dipshits suggesting doves with a BB gun should get out of your game chair sometime and go shoot a round of skeet or sporting clays. It's a lot of fun. By the way, OP, get your driver's license up to date and then get your 870. And, here's the standard camp dove recipe: Fillet the dove breasts (can be actually be done with no knife!). Marinate over night in 50% white wine, 50% Italian dressing. Wrap the breast around a thin slice of jalapeno and onion. Wrap that in bacon (best to remove most of the fat). Stick a toothpick through it, add some black pepper. Grill. Don't overcook it because the breasts are lean and will drive out. Yum.

05-03-2009, 07:40 AM	#51 (permalink)
Laedrun Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 471	omgeh, this thread again? >;p p.s. you're such a faggot grobbee. <3 <3 <3!

05-03-2009, 08:19 AM	#53 (permalink)
Zehn - Vhex Lord of the Dance Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,796 +166 Internets	So is everyone in Wisconsin. We're doing pretty good. Had a problem with a cannibal a few years back though. Been pretty quiet since. Though to be honest the only gun I own is a nerf longshot. 8( ps: Now that Obama is president and we're no longer racist, can I suggest banning black people? That's like, half the gun problem right there, gone!

05-03-2009, 12:40 PM	#60 (permalink)
Lleauaric~EW "Hamburgers, the cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast" Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,593 +52 Internets	Some of you missed my point, so allow me to elaborate. Your gun isn't protecting Democracy. Statistically, its not even keeping you or your family safer. But thats fine. You have a right to own them. But can we please, for fucks sake, stop trying to wrap ourselves in the American flag in justifying having them. Guns are the equivalent of Porn. You have a right to own and enjoy certain types of them. Yay for you. But they serve no greater good than your own enjoyment. You want to protect your rights? Stop being so fucking ignorant. Get involved in local politics, hold your representatives responsible. Turn off the fucking TV, especially for your kids. Read the fucking news. Apathy and willful ignorance will destroy our constitution a hell of a lot faster than men in black helicopters, ACORN or Magical Marxist Negros. But way too many Americans labor under the false premise that because they own a gun they are somehow doing their patriotic duty.. what the fuck ever, like puting a magnetic yellow bow on the back of your 8mpg SUV to support the troops in Oil-ville is patriotic You can have all the guns you want.. but if you are ignorant and unaware, you are a slave waiting to happen. __________________ Ask yourself.... Last edited by Lleauaric~EW; 05-03-2009 at 12:42 PM..

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