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Old 04-02-2009, 04:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Why does launching a missile into space for sattelite deployment cause debris to fall onto Japan?
They are shooting the missile right over Japan. I believe one of the first stages of the rocket is supposed to fall off into the water a ways off one of Japan's coasts.

Japan is concerned that crap off of the missile is going to fall on them and have deployed defenses to shoot the stuff down.

Everyone in concerned that this is just another step towards North Korea nuking Japan.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:04 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I guess as it is a first it can also fail and fall down, in one or multiple parts, "somewhere"...
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:07 PM   #18 (permalink)
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When a big gawt damn rocket explodes carrying thousands of pounds of highly corrosive, explosive, toxic materials thousands of feet in the air it can really fuck up some shingles.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:16 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I would assume the nature of the orbit of the Earth makes it such that reaching the necessary orbit requires an easterly launch trajectory. Any debris jettisoned in the process - nobody on Earth has found a way to efficiently launch a space vehicle without significant debris - is going to land on the landmass that happens to be in that path. Japan.
Makes sense.

NK should just borrow some space from China to launch the sattelite.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:21 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Makes sense.

NK should just borrow some space from China to launch the sattelite.
There is still that whole pesky UN resolution bit to worry about as well even if they managed to do that.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:59 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The Koreans are experts at nukes!

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Old 04-02-2009, 06:04 PM   #22 (permalink)
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At first I thought the news agencies were embellishing things a bit to make the story more interesting but then I found the full report. They are not winning any hearts or minds with this kind of propaganda.

http://www.kcna.co.jp/item/2009/2009...0402-09ee.html
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Pyongyang, April 2 (KCNA) -- The General Staff of the Korean People's Army in an important report on Thursday warned that if hostile forces take any slight move to intercept the DPRK's satellite for peaceful purposes, the KPA will make a prompt just retaliatory strike at it.

The report said:

It is the Japanese reactionaries, the sworn enemy of the Korean people, who are perpetrating the most evil doings over the DPRK's projected satellite launch for peaceful purposes.

It is a legitimate right of a sovereign state in which no one can interfere to use space for peaceful purposes and the above-said satellite launch is a just work for the prosperity of the country and the nation and progress of humankind.

Prompted by this, the DPRK has already accessed to the international treaties on space and on March 21 sent cable notices on the issue of banning access to air space to be exposed to danger during the time the launch is expected to the civil aviation authorities concerned including those of the U.S., Japan, Russia, China, Switzerland and south Korea which control or use the relevant air space.

The relevant countries are now taking necessary measures after accepting the working steps taken by the DPRK in line with the international regulations and usage.

However, only Japan is making much ado as if something serious had happened, finding fault with even the DPRK's above-said advance notice and terming the launch of "Kwangmyongsong-2," the DPRK's experimental communications satellite for peaceful purposes, a "hostile act."

Kongo and Choukai, guided-missile destroyers of the Japanese aggressor forces and the destroyer Great King Sejong of the south Korean puppet navy have already been deployed in the East Sea of Korea.

The Japanese reactionaries, bereft of elementary reason, declared it as a state policy to "intercept" the satellite if the DPRK launches it.

The KPA General Staff solemnly declares as follows to cope with the prevailing situation:

1. If Japan recklessly "intercepts" the DPRK's satellite for peaceful purposes, the KPA will mercilessly deal deadly blows not only at the already deployed intercepting means but at major targets.

2. The U.S. should immediately withdraw its already deployed armed forces if it does not wish to be hurt by the above-said strike as DPRK clarified its stand on its projected satellite launch for peaceful purposes.

3. The south Korean puppet bellicose forces should refrain from disturbing the said launch, the pride of the nation, while currying favor with their U.S. and Japanese masters.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:09 PM   #23 (permalink)
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We still have sworn enemies in the 21st century?

Nuke the bastards.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:52 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I say we shoot it down. They aren't going to do shit about it. And if they do(they won't) then every country in the world has a great excuse to wafflestomp these cocksuckers.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:53 PM   #25 (permalink)
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At first I thought the news agencies were embellishing things a bit to make the story more interesting but then I found the full report. They are not winning any hearts or minds with this kind of propaganda.

http://www.kcna.co.jp/item/2009/2009...0402-09ee.html
Great peice of propaganda there. I like the "Japanese Agressors" "Bereft of even elementary reason". Awesome. Viva Korean War II!
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:10 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Technically the war is still going on

We need to just finish the deed and fuck em up - they're just a worthless fuck up of a country that honestly will collapse within a few months once food production stops
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:12 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Haha every time I read something put out by North Korea I think I'm reading some kid's shitty essay from a standardized test because of the flagrant overuse of "action verbs" and adjectives.
The Official Webpage of The Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK)

Go forth and find happiness. Also, buy from their shop and peruse the Propaganda list on the right, cafepress is indeed awesome..brought to you by The Korean Friendship Association. And for the truly interested, their FAQ section is equally as awesome.

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Old 04-02-2009, 07:24 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I'd rather be dead than be a North Korean citizen. I wish there was some sort of non-violet solution to dissolving these kinds of regimes so we could help these people.

If they did something bad enough to get China and Russia on board, a good old fashioned regime change might not be the worst intentioned conflict in the world.
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:53 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:23 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I say we shoot it down. They aren't going to do shit about it. And if they do(they won't) then every country in the world has a great excuse to wafflestomp these cocksuckers.
Well if we shoot it down they're shit out of luck as it will mean we're capable of shooting down anything they launch.

On the flip side if we try to shoot it down and fail it makes our Missile Defense program look like a failure, and NK gets to trumpet their triumph over the evil enemies attempts to stop them.
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