How to deal with dirty cops... - Page 4

chaos · 03-30-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OhSeven

You're right, THEY weren't. Two fuck sticks out of a group of 6 were. Meanwhile, the 4 reasonable human beings were telling them that THIS WAS A DUMB IDEA.

Yeah, they objected so much that they.... went along with them to commit the crime in question... Yeah, don't shit a shitter.

Sabolin · 03-30-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by chaos

Yeah, they objected so much that they.... went along with them to commit the crime in question... Yeah, don't shit a shitter.

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The reason the rest of us were still in the car was because if they didn't have the right wristbands, we all would've been driving over the bridge to the concert together.

chaos · 03-30-2009, 11:00 AM

Again, they objected so much that they WENT WITH THEM. If they really gave a shit, they wouldn't have gone with them.

it's not even that big of a deal, it's just amusing.

The Ancient · 03-30-2009, 11:05 AM

Wow, it's totally irrelevant whether or not OP was trying to get into the party or not and damn everyone who let Etoille sucker you into arguing that path.

Cops abused authority, whether or not OP was intending to commit a minor infraction is irrelevent.

My first thought when reading the post was "LOL Karma" too. That is until I got to the part where the cops stole from individuals under the false authority of their badges.

Heylel Teomim · 03-30-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by chaos

Again, they objected so much that they WENT WITH THEM. If they really gave a shit, they wouldn't have gone with them.

it's not even that big of a deal, it's just amusing.

I think there was an assumption that they could just stay out of trouble in the car while their friends tried to get in. Given that sitting in a car minding your own business waiting on someone isn't a crime, it's a reasonable assumption.

So Mippo and friends weren't angels, big deal. In no way does that diminish the betrayal of trust and office that the police engaged in.

Smocca · 03-30-2009, 11:08 AM

I'm lost. What is even the argument at this point? These individuals are not perfect jesus-like sinless individuals so what these cops did was just karma in action? They had it coming? Conspiracy to drive a dude to a party where he may or may not slip in with a fake bracelet? I do worse shit than that every day by accident.

I know my friends like to drive over the speed limit and I ride in the car anyway! What will karma have in store for me?! O noes?!

Oh shit, I just realized there was a thread on this very board where people were stealing pizzas. And the mods didn't shut the board down, call the police and personally see to it that justice was served. That's gotta be worth some police brutality, I'd say.

The Ancient · 03-30-2009, 11:10 AM

Having said everything I just said earlier..

A $1225 dollar fine isn't unreasonable for the activity in question so...

Just look at it that way and your sense of injustice will be slightly placated.

OhSeven · 03-30-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chaos

Again, they objected so much that they WENT WITH THEM. If they really gave a shit, they wouldn't have gone with them.

it's not even that big of a deal, it's just amusing.

And that somehow justifies what the cops did? What the fuck is with this guilt by association track you and Etoille are on? So because Mippo and his 3 friends weren't so violently opposed to what his 2 douchebag friends were doing that they'd refuse to associate with them that night that its somehow amusing that he had his shit stolen by a bunch of COPS?

Hell, you might even have a point if it was Mippo who was trying to sneak into the party but, according to him, he wasn't.

Edit @ The Ancient: A fine would of been perfectly acceptable since for one, the fine would of more than likely of been aimed at the people who were actually going to commit the crime and two, it would of shown that the cops, ya know, actually gave a shit about the law that they're supposed to enforce. Cops committing theft against Mippo in this situation is the very definition of injustice.

lost · 03-30-2009, 11:11 AM

Sorry to hear that happened, I would have raged if they took my ultra tickets, specially 7 of them! Probably would have landed me in jail but yeah, thats rediculous.. like someone said they didnt even file paperwork?

Heylel Teomim · 03-30-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Whoever negged me:

You are hearing one side of the story and calling the other side thieves. Protip: Criminals lie to make their story sound better than it actually is.

Yeah no shit criminals lie. And cops abuse their power almost as often, so fuck off.

Camerous · 03-30-2009, 11:19 AM

But he was there and knew it was happening. He didn't try to stop it in any real way. Further more yes sitting in the car while you KNOW someone else is committing a crime is being an accomplice and is illegal. That's how they get the get away drivers for bank robberies.

Now is the theft of the tickets fair? hell no.. I would have went ape shit on them right there... made them take me to jail, where I would have filed a complaint with the city and the station. Further more I would do everything in my power to get them prosecuted for illegal S&S, grand theft, and abuse of power. Fucking sock it to the dumb fuckers.
But to say Mippo was all innocent and shit is stupid at best. If you know a crime is being committed, and I could give a shit less what the crime was, and you don't try to stop it or at the very least distance yourself from said event then you are just as guilty as the people committing the crime and the law also agrees.

Stealing is stealing wither it is 20 bucks from the club or 1200 in tickets.

Sabolin · 03-30-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Camerous

If you know a crime is being committed, and I could give a shit less what the crime was, and you don't try to stop it or at the very least distance yourself from said even then you are just as guilty as the people committing the crime and the law also agrees.

We already dicussed this. It is not so black and white which is why cops have discretion over how to handle a situation and what to write on the ticket or cuff you etc.. Have you ever driven 1 mph over the speed limit or greater? Are you ever in the car with someone who is driving 1 mph over the speed limit?

Edit- Lets expand upon this further so you can see my point, because you probably still won't get it.

If you are in the car with someone driving over the speed limit and he gets pulled over, are you issued a ticket for being in the car with someone driving over the speed limit? No.

The Ancient · 03-30-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by OhSeven

Edit @ The Ancient: A fine would of been perfectly acceptable since for one, the fine would of more than likely of been aimed at the people who were actually going to commit the crime and two, it would of shown that the cops, ya know, actually gave a shit about the law that they're supposed to enforce. Cops committing theft against Mippo in this situation is the very definition of injustice.

Hey I'm with you on that one, the fine belongs in the courts, not the officers pockets. I'm just saying if Mippo needs to feel a little better he can look at it that way.

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Originally Posted by Sabolin

Have you ever driven 1 mph over the speed limit or greater? Are you ever in the car with someone who is driving 1 mph over the speed limit?

This is a terrible example, I wish people would stop using it.

Cynno · 03-30-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Camerous

Stealing is stealing wither it is 20 bucks from the club or 1200 in tickets.

No it's not even remotely similar.

One is grand theft.

The Ancient · 03-30-2009, 11:26 AM

What about 20 dollars each for 5 people on 12 occasions?

03-30-2009, 11:00 AM	#48 (permalink)
chaos Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NoVa Posts: 7,162 +29 Internets	Again, they objected so much that they WENT WITH THEM. If they really gave a shit, they wouldn't have gone with them. it's not even that big of a deal, it's just amusing. Last edited by chaos; 03-30-2009 at 11:04 AM..

03-30-2009, 11:08 AM	#51 (permalink)
Smocca Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 875 +25 Internets	I'm lost. What is even the argument at this point? These individuals are not perfect jesus-like sinless individuals so what these cops did was just karma in action? They had it coming? Conspiracy to drive a dude to a party where he may or may not slip in with a fake bracelet? I do worse shit than that every day by accident. I know my friends like to drive over the speed limit and I ride in the car anyway! What will karma have in store for me?! O noes?! Oh shit, I just realized there was a thread on this very board where people were stealing pizzas. And the mods didn't shut the board down, call the police and personally see to it that justice was served. That's gotta be worth some police brutality, I'd say. __________________ Wii Code: 4250 4436 6536 6872

03-30-2009, 11:19 AM	#56 (permalink)
Camerous -internets from anon retards mean jack Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Overthere next to that place Posts: 2,720 -79 Internets	But he was there and knew it was happening. He didn't try to stop it in any real way. Further more yes sitting in the car while you KNOW someone else is committing a crime is being an accomplice and is illegal. That's how they get the get away drivers for bank robberies. Now is the theft of the tickets fair? hell no.. I would have went ape shit on them right there... made them take me to jail, where I would have filed a complaint with the city and the station. Further more I would do everything in my power to get them prosecuted for illegal S&S, grand theft, and abuse of power. Fucking sock it to the dumb fuckers. But to say Mippo was all innocent and shit is stupid at best. If you know a crime is being committed, and I could give a shit less what the crime was, and you don't try to stop it or at the very least distance yourself from said event then you are just as guilty as the people committing the crime and the law also agrees. Stealing is stealing wither it is 20 bucks from the club or 1200 in tickets. __________________ Give me more -internets you little bishes!

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03-30-2009, 11:11 AM	#54 (permalink)
lost REDLIN3D Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UCF Posts: 578	Sorry to hear that happened, I would have raged if they took my ultra tickets, specially 7 of them! Probably would have landed me in jail but yeah, thats rediculous.. like someone said they didnt even file paperwork?