Health Care

[Bralkan]

fucking dp.

[Heylel Teomim]

Originally Posted by Etoille

Dude yknits is hysterical LOL.

He reminds me of the guy who used to be outside...what hall was it at Michigan State....Baker? With the big sign which was a list of people going to hell.

Fucking hilarious.

We had a guy just like your Michigan State dude at Georgia Tech. He'd show up in a Westboro-style slogan shirt, and his wife would stand silently behind him with their toddler in a stroller. He even showed up once with a church youth group of about 20 kids in bright yellow shirts hat had some phrase like gay=death on it, I forget the specifics.

I used to sit once a week and eat my lunch outside listening to him rail against everyone who walked by. Women were all whores, tramps or sluts, any skinny guy who walked through his vision was clearly a homosexual, etc. One time, the students who worked at the campus clinic started handing out condoms during his "rally". He went into an apoplectic fit right off, but just totally lost it when a guy shoved his hand into his pants with a fist full of condoms.

It was awesome.

[Simas]

Yeah we had those guys at FSU. They would call people out for everything, including being fat. Sloth and gluttony and all that. One time the dude said something along those lines to a fat black chic. She blew the fuck up. It was awesome. Another time a group of hippie kids made a big banner that said "Dont listen to this asshole" and stood in front of him all day. Ah, college.

[yknits]

Originally Posted by Heylel Teomim

We had a guy just like your Michigan State dude at Georgia Tech. He'd show up in a Westboro-style slogan shirt, and his wife would stand silently behind him with their toddler in a stroller. He even showed up once with a church youth group of about 20 kids in bright yellow shirts hat had some phrase like gay=death on it, I forget the specifics.

I used to sit once a week and eat my lunch outside listening to him rail against everyone who walked by. Women were all whores, tramps or sluts, any skinny guy who walked through his vision was clearly a homosexual, etc. One time, the students who worked at the campus clinic started handing out condoms during his "rally". He went into an apoplectic fit right off, but just totally lost it when a guy shoved his hand into his pants with a fist full of condoms.

It was awesome.

Nice try but I'm not railing on gays, sluts, women. I'm not wearing a slogan. I'm not ranting about the end of the world or alien invasion.

I'm simply arguing that this administration and it's path to world government is going to end bad. Just like every other instance of history where government took control. Big government = Bad. Period. Big government with unlimited power and no checks and balances = worse.

Everything I've said is in the mainstream news. Not some off the wall paper nobody reads.

Tyrants have used the same fallacious arguments you do, however they used them better. Probably because they understood them.

If you don't understand how your arguments are fallacious then you should probably read up on fallacious arguments.

And when your done... maybe read the news.

[tjac]

Originally Posted by yknits

Big government = Bad. Period. Big government with unlimited power and no checks and balances = worse.

Please give examples. I need something to think about while I rehabilitate potheads into something more productive!

[Lyenae]

Read "The Road to Serfdom."

[yknits]

Originally Posted by tjac

Please give examples. I need something to think about while I rehabilitate potheads into something more productive!

Ok your a fucking moron because the easiest example is our US Constitution which limits the power of government with checks and balances.

By design it is supposed to prevent the government from becoming too powerful.

However, because dumbass voters who dont read bills or research who they send to office, we have a situation where the three branches are more or less in league.

We have a radical supreme court, radical house, radical senate, radical president/cabinet who are ramming bills through. They aren't reading them they are simply voting party line.

It has created totalitarianism.

Our government cannot sustain its spending. It is simply too many moving parts and hands in too many pots.

Healthcare? Please how about balance the check book first. Audit the fed then maybe talk about healthcare. Instead you have this administration pushing for healthcare NOW because they may never have another chance to quickstep politics. People all over the country are waking up. Obama's numbers have dropped to within a few points of Bush style lows.

Your savior turned out to be a liar. Gratz.

Go rehabilitate your brain. It needs the work.

[yknits]

Originally Posted by Lyenae

Read "The Road to Serfdom."

I shouldn't support this because they will probably turn on you but being you have -90 internets I'm going out on a limb.

Great read. Highly recommended.

[tjac]

Originally Posted by yknits

Go rehabilitate your brain. It needs the work.

I was hoping you knew about governments beyond the United States.

If you could offer some examples throughout history and the world where big government has always been bad and small government is always good, you might get some traction instead of spinning your wheels.

[Simas]

Originally Posted by yknits

Ok your a fucking moron because the easiest example is our US Constitution which limits the power of government with checks and balances.

By design it is supposed to prevent the government from becoming too powerful.

However, because dumbass voters who dont read bills or research who they send to office, we have a situation where the three branches are more or less in league.

We have a radical supreme court, radical house, radical senate, radical president/cabinet who are ramming bills through. They aren't reading them they are simply voting party line.

It has created totalitarianism.

Our government cannot sustain its spending. It is simply too many moving parts and hands in too many pots.

Healthcare? Please how about balance the check book first. Audit the fed then maybe talk about healthcare. Instead you have this administration pushing for healthcare NOW because they may never have another chance to quickstep politics. People all over the country are waking up. Obama's numbers have dropped to within a few points of Bush style lows.

Your savior turned out to be a liar. Gratz.

Go rehabilitate your brain. It needs the work.

Wow. You're really this fucking stupid? Did you go to any of the tea parties? If were currently living under "Totalitarianism" ("created" implies its already happened) then what do you call N.Korea? Is that like super-duper-ultra totalitarianism? Are foxnews and MSNBC secretly ran by the govt? And huffpo and drudge? D.C. v Heller , lemme guess SCOTUS was just supporting gun rights in an elbaorate ruse to deny them later? Or when they allowed public schools to strip search children for otc meds. All standing up for the man. Wait...that didnt happen.

Radical supreme court? People not even reading bills? Just voting the party line?!? Say it isnt so! Wait, wait, no thats been happening forever.

And Obama's numbers near Bush style lows? You've got to be shitting me. The most recent poll the right has been harping about is the Ohio poll which has Obama at 44% approval and 49% dis. The 1st hit on google shows Bush's 2008 approval at 31% and 67 % dis. I think it got even lower than that but I'm not gonna bother looking for more.

You libertarians are some wierd misguided fuckers.

TAXATION IS SLAVERY!!!

(love it or leave it! - i love getting to say that)

[Sunder]

Originally Posted by yknits

Obama's numbers have dropped to within a few points of Bush style lows.

Sight polls please. Otherwise, we may have to lump you in with Obama as just another liar.

[chaos]

You wouldn't expect "THEM" to allow those polls to be released would you? What, and spoil their plans for a one world government? These are the SECRET polls sir. The ones THEY don't want you to know about, while you sit there, not reading bills, FUCK YOU GOD.

[yknits]

Originally Posted by Sunder

Sight polls please. Otherwise, we may have to lump you in with Obama as just another liar.

Rasmussen Reports™: The Most Comprehensive Public Opinion Data Anywhere

I guess going there yourself was too much effort. 39% is just a few points shy of where the Bush downturn began to eat him alive.

Whats the difference you say? A media who majority of are fanboi's of Obama.

And to the tea party question...

1) They not KKK conventions
2) There were people of all races in attendance
3) It was non-partisan and speakers from both major parties scrambled to be part
4) They did not get honest coverage by the media. Numbers were fibbed on air.

No I didn't attend.

To the "non-US" Big Bad Government challenge. It isn't time for a history lesson but I'll give you some hints. Go research-

Nazi
Mussolini
China vs Tibet
Imperialism
Soviet Union

I'll stop there because if you don't get the point... you aren't going to get the point.

[yknits]

Originally Posted by chaos

I, chaos, am a retard and don't know what rasmussen polls are.

Fixed!

[chaos]

Ah, so Obama is like Hitler because he wants a public option for health care. That makes sense, and you are totally not a crazy fuckbag for making the comparison. I'm glad you started posting more, it really puts things in perspective.