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[Sabolin]

Originally Posted by GrobbeeTrull2.0

In much the same way you pay teachers all year even though they only work 9 months

poor analogy.

[Bizanich]

Originally Posted by Sabolin

My girlfriend who is a teacher does not receive a paycheck from the end of June to the beginning of September. Neither do any teachers I've ever met. Many of them get temp jobs in the summer; when I worked at the Saratoga track a few summers ago, a majority of my co-workers were teachers.

Just saying... poor analogy.

Where I live the teachers have an option to be paid their salary over 9 months, or to spread that same salary over 12 months.

That it is not this way everywhere is stunning to me, but I don't really pay attention to others I s'pose.

[Zhaun's_Shade]

Originally Posted by Bizanich

Where I live the teachers have an option to be paid their salary over 9 months, or to spread that same salary over 12 months.

That it is not this way everywhere is stunning to me, but I don't really pay attention to others I s'pose.

The college professor and middle school teacher I know both have this option as well. They both get steady 12-month paychecks, their choice instead of only being paid over 9 months. Also, I think there is a 3rd option, but I don't recall what it is. Either way they get paid the same salary, it is only a matter of how they get it.

Neither needs to work during the summer to keep bills paid (the proffessor travels and the middle school teacher has kids so she can hang out with them).


More to the root of the subject, I would say that the person saying we should stop subsidizing farmers not growing crops is less about their "downtime" and more about the farmers who make more money from farming subsidies non-growing stuff than actually growing stuff.

[GrobbeeTrull2.0]

Originally Posted by Sabolin

My girlfriend who is a teacher does not receive a paycheck from the end of June to the beginning of September. Neither do any teachers I've ever met. Many of them get temp jobs in the summer; when I worked at the Saratoga track a few summers ago, a majority of my co-workers were teachers.

Just saying... poor analogy.

I guess it's region specific, because everyone I know in Ohio gets a paycheck every month, summer or not. Anyway, solid analogy if you live in a land with common sense.

[Knucklehead]

Originally Posted by AladainAF

Phase out pensions.

I'm making an assumption here, but I think you might also not like social security. If so, I like the future you're carving out. It's like Mad Max with walkers. Those that were able to save money survive until it runs out. Those who could not or did not -- screw 'em. My only beef is when their rotten corpses start stinking in the ditches beside the road, we'll probably have to pay someone to drag them away. (Not a government agency, mind you. That would be growing the government, and that's bad. No, I just mean individual property owners would have to hire someone. Which brings to mind a great idea for a movie short, where a rabid anti-government type gets his wish only to be foiled in the end by hordes of elderly who choose his property to die on, thereby causing the property owner to go broke having to pay someone to constantly haul off their mountain of carcasses. In the end he's wandering destitute and alone, looking only for a place to die where he might pass on his misery to others. It's very Grumpy Old Men meets Ghandi meets zombie hordes. I like it.)

[Arbitrary]

Originally Posted by AladainAF

For starters, lets drop funding for the USPS outside what they make by selling stamps..

Can we keep the post office funding please?

[Sharmai]

Originally Posted by Sabolin

My girlfriend who is a teacher does not receive a paycheck from the end of June to the beginning of September. Neither do any teachers I've ever met. Many of them get temp jobs in the summer; when I worked at the Saratoga track a few summers ago, a majority of my co-workers were teachers.

Just saying... poor analogy.

My fiancee who is about to graduate as a teacher told me they have multiple pay options. They can choose to take a year long salary or just a semester long salary.

[Sabolin]

hmm

[XadionDarkborn]

Wife is a teacher, 2 options

1: 9month payments
2: 12month payments

Med/Vision/Dental prices are only deducted during the 9 months - so summer your still covered but your done paying.

Teachers need to get paied more as they have the lowest starting for their degree level and degree+ requirements - it has nothing to do with 9month pay vs 12. And if people QQ about teachers time off- by the time you end the school year you have about 2-3 weeks before you have to start your "work at home" shit to get ready then you are back 1-2 weeks before the kids- if you want some temp job inbetween its almost more work than its worth in getting behind on your at home teacher duties.

[headspace]

Originally Posted by XadionDarkborn

And if people QQ about teachers time off- by the time you end the school year you have about 2-3 weeks before you have to start your "work at home" shit to get ready then you are back 1-2 weeks before the kids- if you want some temp job inbetween its almost more work than its worth in getting behind on your at home teacher duties.

I am engaged to a teacher, and my mom was a teacher for 30 years. I call bullshit on that statement.

[Sharmai]

Fuck that my fiancee stresses something awful during the school year. She's up and at school before your kids even wake up in the morning and she doesn't leave school till after your kids are at home. Then when she gets home shes grading papers for half the night. They fucking DESERVE that time off.

[Snugglebear]

Teachers also end up having to grade at home a lot. And they have to prepare lesson plans. Their prep periods usually aren't enough to get the lion's share of the work done.

Some teachers don't work or do extra things over the summer, but if you want to get IB/AP/whatever certifications, that stuff is usually done in the summer months.

[Mario Speedwagon]

Being a teacher is super easy. All you have to do is be a really bad teacher.

1. Show up right at 8.
2. Pass out worksheets.
3. Have a student grade them.
4. Leave at 3.
5. ???
6. Profit.

[Sharmai]

Yes a bad teacher would get away with that crap but that's no way to inspire your students. Also regurgitating the same tired old lessons if they aren't known to work is also pretty bad. Especially when you could tie them in to current events for a larger impact. Being a good teacher is seriously hard work. My fiancee deserves far more for the amount of effort she put in.

[revolreggin]

Originally Posted by Mario Speedwagon

Being a teacher is super easy. All you have to do is be a really bad teacher.

1. Show up right at 8.
2. Pass out worksheets.
3. Have a student grade them.
4. Leave at 3.
5. ???
6. Profit.

Actually no profit, most teachers pull in a shitty salary.