More Police Brutality Fun!

[Luthair]

Either way the cop ought to be unemployed after this.

[BurnemWizfyre]

Originally Posted by Ashes Emberblade

Your cousin wasn't resisting arrest, so the taze wasn't justified, and the officer committed assault. It's not hard to understand people; the use of a tazer is an appropriate level of force for responding to subjects resisting arrest who present a danger that a normal person would be aware of. If you have a problem with that, then; don't resist arrest, lobby your state legislature to make tazers an unacceptable use of force, or lobby your municipal government to do the same.

Thats just the thing though, they claimed he was and he even went to court for resisting arrest. Amazingly enough the police video disappeared, but i guess he dint account for the fact that since it was an on going incident (cousin raises dogs) he put up video cameras all around his house and had a perfect video with sound of exactly what happened.

That officer was going to Taze a subdued man, im sorry 3 fucking cops on his back and handcuffed=SUBDUED.

[Strifen]

Possible he made a mistake thinking the gun was his tazer? Kind of far-fetched, but considering the audience around the cops, and the other cops present, I've got a hard time thinking that he just decided to execute the poor guy on the spot while he was laying on the ground/cuffed.

[BurnemWizfyre]

Settlement and Prison, Only possible out come imo. You can claim mistake all you want, fact remains he took the mans life.

[Strifen]

Oh, I totally agree. I am just baffled he shot the guy like this.

[OneofOne]

The cop in question has resigned. Sent in his lawyer and union rep to do it. Didn't stop there being a little riot in Oakland tonight. Only 14 people arrested but there were several hundred rioters who lit a few cars on fire and broke a lot of storefront windows. What the fuck is it about people that leads them to destroy their neighborhoods in reaction to anger at "the man"? The fucking man is going to go home at the end of the day to his nice neighborhood while you're stuck in the shit you just fucked up and burnt down. Felt bad for the owner of one such business that was interviewed on the news.

[Strifen]

Originally Posted by OneofOne

The cop in question has resigned. Sent in his lawyer and union rep to do it. Didn't stop there being a little riot in Oakland tonight. Only 14 people arrested but there were several hundred rioters who lit a few cars on fire and broke a lot of storefront windows. What the fuck is it about people that leads them to destroy their neighborhoods in reaction to anger at "the man"? The fucking man is going to go home at the end of the day to his nice neighborhood while you're stuck in the shit you just fucked up and burnt down. Felt bad for the owner of one such business that was interviewed on the news.

yea I was watching the live feed of this briefly, they smashed up a mcdonalds real good, that'll show em!

[BurnemWizfyre]

Yeah that shit is stupid and pointless, want to show real outrage go riot on the actual police station.

[Joshthegreat2005]

If a drunk driver in California hits someone and kills them (unintentionally of course), its 30 years in prison.

If a Police officer pulls out a gun instead of a tazer (unintentionally of course) and shoots and kills a person, how is it any different than the drunk driver? They both killed someone.

I dont know if any of you have ever been arrested before or not, but 90% of cops are not nice people.

I got a DUI about 7 months ago, I was driving home from the bar after work on a friday night and got pulled over for a tail light that was out. I blew a .09 (barely over the legal limit), and was treated like a pile of shit thereafter.

The cops inside the jail acted like 16 year old kids with a god complex. Several hours of sitting in the drunk tank later, it started to get REALLY cold. A cop passed by, I asked him if maybe he could turn the heat up, or give me a blanket to use because it was so cold. He laughed, said :"Fuck you." Then walked off.

It has been proven time and time again throughout history, whenever someone has power over other people for any extended amount of time, they become corrupt.

I hope this Cop get 30 years in prison. Fuck him.

[Ronne]

Originally Posted by Joshthegreat2005

If a drunk driver in California hits someone and kills them (unintentionally of course), its 30 years in prison.

If a Police officer pulls out a gun instead of a tazer (unintentionally of course) and shoots and kills a person, how is it any different than the drunk driver? They both killed someone.

Alcohol makes your analogy suck. Penalty is insanely more strict for drunk driving than a death during an accidental collision that didn't involve alcohol.

Be curious to see if this results in jail time, provided it was actually just a mistake.

[Joshthegreat2005]

Originally Posted by Ronne

Alcohol makes your analogy suck. Penalty is insanely more strict for drunk driving than a death during an accidental collision that didn't involve alcohol.

Be curious to see if this results in jail time, provided it was actually just a mistake.

We are trained to not drink and drive.

Police are trained to not shoot a person with a gun instead of a tazer?

[Ronne]

Originally Posted by Joshthegreat2005

We are trained to not drink and drive.

Police are trained to not shoot a person with a gun instead of a tazer?

Doesn't matter. We're trained not to hit other people while driving, doesn't mean it will never happen. Point is, there is a huge legal distinction between accidental and due to intoxication.

Take two identical car accidents, but add intoxication to one of them, and all of a sudden you're in heap loads more trouble than you were in the other.

[Joshthegreat2005]

Originally Posted by Ronne

Doesn't matter. We're trained not to hit other people while driving, doesn't mean it will never happen. Point is, there is a huge legal distinction between accidental and due to intoxication.

I have a uncle that had a intruder break into his home. My uncle had a gun, and was ex-military. He shot and killed the guy. He got 5 years in jail. The reasoning of the jury?

"You were trained in fire arms, and could have shot to maim, not kill."

This police officer was trained. He should have known better, just like my uncle knew better, amirite?

[Arbitrary]

The differences in how that is handled state to state is of constant amazement to me. I know that if I shoot someone who breaks into my house I'm probably going to jail unless my life was not only in extreme jeopardy but I also had a legitimate reason for not just opening the back door and legging it. I'd go right up on 2nd degree murder charges and get to try and plea down and if I didn't I'd probably lose the trial.

[Lonin]

Originally Posted by Joshthegreat2005

I have a uncle that had a intruder break into his home. My uncle had a gun, and was ex-military. He shot and killed the guy. He got 5 years in jail. The reasoning of the jury?

"You were trained in fire arms, and could have shot to maim, not kill."

This police officer was trained. He should have known better, just like my uncle knew better, amirite?

Your analogies suck, stop making them.

I think it will basically come down to whether or not the investigators decide if he should have even been drawing any sort of weapon there. If they find that the use of any weapon in that instance was inappropriate then he'll probably be charged with some sort of low-degree manslaughter. If they deem that using a taser in that situation was appropriate and that drawing his gun was just a crazy accident, he probably won't be charged. It all comes down to whether or not the judge views this as a "reasonable" mistake.

I've read up a bit on tasers and it seems most agencies require police to wear them "cross-draw", on the other side of the belt from the gun. Drawing the gun while meaning to draw your taser in that case seems pretty unlikely.

Edit - Reading a cop forum concerning this incident is a pretty interesting/scary antithesis to this thread.