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Old 03-04-2009, 01:59 PM   #586 (permalink)
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:13 PM   #587 (permalink)
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EDIT: Nevermind I didn't RTFA and see that the law doesn't let them release the original. Thats an odd law... wtf. But IMHO that closes the case so... ppl should STFU on this it just makes them look bad.

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Old 03-04-2009, 02:16 PM   #588 (permalink)
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They aren't reproduced copies, they are official copies from the state. That's what the states give out, they never release the original, in fact the article even says that it is against Hawaii state law to release the original of a birth certificate. When I joined the military, I provided an official copy of my birth certificate. For my security clearance. For my current job. For an old job when I had to get an official passport to do some state dept travel. Etc. These people are just being crazy, there are plenty of valid criticisms to make of the administration and every time someone talks about dumb shit like this is invalidates those things just a little bit.

These are like the same people who think that the Clintons had some long list of people killed or Bush drinks baby blood to stay young or whatever.
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:47 PM   #589 (permalink)
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EDIT: Nevermind I didn't RTFA and see that the law doesn't let them release the original. Thats an odd law... wtf. But IMHO that closes the case so... ppl should STFU on this it just makes them look bad.
lol what I was thinking. Jesus christ....
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Old 03-04-2009, 04:22 PM   #590 (permalink)
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They aren't reproduced copies, they are official copies from the state. That's what the states give out, they never release the original
Yeah, what he said. When I first went for my drivers license years ago they made me go get an official copy from Santa Clara. But hey, maybe I'm not an American citizen either, and this is all a convoluted plot to ascend our muslim (or reptile, if you're lumie) brother to the office of the Presidency.
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Old 03-05-2009, 04:14 AM   #591 (permalink)
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Wow, they just went full retard.
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Old 03-05-2009, 06:40 AM   #592 (permalink)
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Nobody release the original. They should. Unless under court order. You shouldn't release your original of anything either.

Illinois is weird....
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I'd elaborate on what I said since you obviously took it wrong, but I don't believe that you're stupid enough to not get what I was saying. The very next sentence qualifies the statement.

I see now. You're one of those people that looks for reasons to be offended. It must be frustrating to go through life like that.
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Old 03-05-2009, 10:58 AM   #593 (permalink)
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Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al:

We have stuck together since the late 1950's, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

Here is a model separation agreement:

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them).

We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens.

We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood.

You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.

We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N.. but we will no longer be paying the bill.

We'll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World.

We'll practice trickle down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.


Sincerely, John J. Wall
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P.S. Also, please take Barbara Streisand & Jane Fonda with you.
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Old 03-05-2009, 11:01 AM   #595 (permalink)
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This has already been discussed at length. If the red states succeeded, they'd be broke within a year. All red states except Texas take significantly more money in back entitlements than they contribute in taxes to the federal government. The red states have benefited from the most extreme form of welfare, paid for by the blue states, since the civil war.
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Old 03-05-2009, 11:04 AM   #596 (permalink)
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And they would respond by raising food prices as the blue states all get food from red states Those government subsidies are to keep food cheap for the blue staters. And remember if you broke it by county instead of state (which would make more sense as blue states are really just states with high urban populations) you would be very isolated land wise, hell even 3/4 of cali is red if you look at countys.

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Old 03-05-2009, 11:15 AM   #597 (permalink)
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And they would respond by raising food prices as the blue states all get food from red states Those government subsidies are to keep food cheap for the blue staters.
It's actually pretty evenly split between Red/Blue states as far as farmland goes (Table: Number and Size of Farm Land by State).

Where would you learn how to do anything but farming, though? We've got most of the top Universities.
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Old 03-05-2009, 11:22 AM   #598 (permalink)
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Yeah that is why I amended it to mention County by county as the farming areas in blue states are overwhelmingly red areas. And remember a lot of schools are in small "college towns" where the students rarely vote as residents
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:51 PM   #599 (permalink)
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:59 PM   #600 (permalink)
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This has already been discussed at length. If the red states succeeded, they'd be broke within a year. All red states except Texas take significantly more money in back entitlements than they contribute in taxes to the federal government. The red states have benefited from the most extreme form of welfare, paid for by the blue states, since the civil war.
Can you provide a source for your listing of which states get how much/contribute how much from the fed. govt? That would be interesting reading, thanks.
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