Are Republicans still a National Party?

[AladainAF]

Originally Posted by Veil

Just for clarity its not a 1 page bill, i think theirs is 200 some odd pages, thats the cliff notes version of the republican bill. The salient points if you will. I still find it sad this is what the republicans could come up with after 100 some odd days?

Have you read the whole bill, and not the "salient points" ?

[GrobbeeTrull2.0]

The funny thing is, when I asked if someone had read the whole Democratic bill, someone said "1990 fucking pages are you KIDDING ME?!" but now, with a 200 page alternative, someone can go "Yep, and it sucks."

Did YOU read all 1990 pages of the Democratic bill, and not just the "salient points?"

[Haus]

Originally Posted by Phelps

I figured as much, but my attention span is lacking right now; thanks for pointing that out though, it was kinda my assumption after all.

My argument would be that if it takes almost 2,000 pages to document this proposed legislation then probably it should be broken into more manageable parts. For instance :

A bill for reform and reduction of medical costs.
A bill for a mandate for employer provided coverage
A bill establishing a public insurance plan option
etc...

If it's a good law all parts should be able to stand on their own. Producing something this large and complicated smacks of trying to "sneak things through". At this point Pelosi has now gone back on her commitment to post the full bill for 72 hours before a vote because they are still cramming stuff into it. Not a single legislator will have read the whole bill, let along understand it, before voting. Which means they aren't doing their jobs right.

[Screamfeeder]

Originally Posted by Haus

If it's a good law all parts should be able to stand on their own.

Explain.


What if certain parts of "reform and reduction of medical costs" rely on provisions contained in the sections detailing "a mandate for employer provided coverage" which in turn has benefits pertaining to personal "public insurance plan option"(s)?

What then? What if one gets passed and another doesn't?

I somewhat agree with you on a principle standpoint but I also can't allow you to say things like "smacks of trying to "sneak things through" when I could use the argument that splitting it up smacks of "gutting the workable parts into useless legislation".

If you want to get rid of that "smacks" feeling your best bet is to read and research the bill just to make sure nothing is sneaking through.

[Draegan]

The 2000 page bill isn't like a Wheel of Time book that could take months to get through. Each page of the bill is like 25 lines long at 18pt font. It's rediculous. Some lines only have 4-5 words on them.

[Bralkan]

Originally Posted by The Ancient

Sponsored by Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Ga., a former real estate executive.
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Pretty much every elected official from GA is worthless. Beyond Worthless. Its one of the last bastions of shit heads.

[Mario Speedwagon]

Originally Posted by Bralkan

Pretty much every elected official from GA is worthless. Beyond Worthless. Its one of the last bastions of shit heads.

Say what? Pretty much every elected official is beyond worthless.

[The Ancient]

Originally Posted by Haus

You know, the reason that was added was so that people who already owned a home and we're buying ANOTHER because they sold their previous house to a first time buyer would also get the credit. Ergo, that person who owned a home and is buying a new one IS taking a house off the market.

You know that right? That it's not just a credit for people who already own a house???

You understand that if you buy one house and sell another you haven't taken a house off the market, right?

[I'm Rich Bitch]

My favorite Republican commentator, Glenn Beck, is out sick. I really miss him. Stewart gives us something to help get our Beck on while he is out.

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[Draegan]

Hey guys support:

George Hutchins for U.S. Congress 2010

And here are his forums:

Questions For Mr. Hutchins - George Hutchins for U.S. Congress - 4th NC District Republican


Oh the lulz, this should go in FOHSS.

[CyrusReij]

Originally Posted by Draegan

Hey guys support:

George Hutchins for U.S. Congress 2010

And here are his forums:

Questions For Mr. Hutchins - George Hutchins for U.S. Congress - 4th NC District Republican


Oh the lulz, this should go in FOHSS.

That guy's website is atrocious, revenge of the 90s and shit. And apparently even hardcore conservatives like some girl-on-girl action, yeahhhhh!....err.... wat?

[Heylel Teomim]

Originally Posted by Bralkan

Pretty much every elected official from GA is worthless. Beyond Worthless. Its one of the last bastions of shit heads.

I'm sorry I'm only one man. Blame the other idiot Georgians, because I sure as fuck didn't elect him.

[Araxen]

Originally Posted by I'm Rich Bitch

My favorite Republican commentator, Glenn Beck, is out sick. I really miss him. Stewart gives us something to help get our Beck on while he is out.

Holy fuck...that is funny as hell.

[Lleauaric~EW]

Lol..

I think youll enjoy this one IRB... Kos makes Tom Tancredo cry on national tv.

[Northerner]

Originally Posted by Draegan

Hey guys support:

George Hutchins for U.S. Congress 2010

Jesus Christ, I think that looks worse than my "personal" page from the early 90s.

Needs more stars.