Are Republicans still a National Party? - Page 331

The Ancient · 11-05-2009, 01:31 PM

Those stupid fucks in Congress just decided to apply the housing credit to existing home owners. Yeah, that's gonna cut down on the vacancies...

Sponsored by Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Ga., a former real estate executive.

Good job dude.

yknits · 11-05-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ancient

Those stupid fucks in Congress just decided to apply the housing credit to existing home owners. Yeah, that's gonna cut down on the vacancies...

Sponsored by Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Ga., a former real estate executive.

Good job dude.

WTB campaign reform above all else. This pocket politics is really starting to piss me off. To bad our education system is so fucked up, most Americans don't know what this means.

Haus · 11-05-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ancient

Those stupid fucks in Congress just decided to apply the housing credit to existing home owners. Yeah, that's gonna cut down on the vacancies...

Sponsored by Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Ga., a former real estate executive.

Good job dude.

You know, the reason that was added was so that people who already owned a home and we're buying ANOTHER because they sold their previous house to a first time buyer would also get the credit. Ergo, that person who owned a home and is buying a new one IS taking a house off the market.

You know that right? That it's not just a credit for people who already own a house???

AladainAF · 11-05-2009, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ancient

Those stupid fucks in Congress just decided to apply the housing credit to existing home owners. Yeah, that's gonna cut down on the vacancies...

Sponsored by Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Ga., a former real estate executive.

Good job dude.

Wow, neat. A single republican can pass a law in the house.

Draegan · 11-05-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronne

50 cents? Must be nice, paying close to 2$ for some of them here in Chicago.

Parkway tolls are periodic and not just at your destination. If you travel a long distance you could go through 3-4 tolls.

It's almost impossible to buy a house that's not in a ghetto in NJ, and even then property taxes will rape you and your future children.

GrobbeeTrull2.0 · 11-05-2009, 06:07 PM

From Pittsburgh to the Altoona exit on I-70, it was $11 in toll. In 2002. Fuck.

Zhaun's_Shade · 11-05-2009, 06:15 PM

Guess Republicans revealed their health plan that will cover 3 of our 46 million uninsured! Yay!

I'm Rich Bitch · 11-05-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Zhaun's_Shade

Guess Republicans revealed their health plan that will cover 3 of our 46 million uninsured! Yay!

They only insure "REAL" Americans.

Haus · 11-05-2009, 08:19 PM

Maybe the idea of their plan is to actually reduce medical costs, which in turn would make it possible for reductions in insurance costs, which in turn would let people who couldn't afford insurance before get it...

I know, I'm probably crazy.

The hole in their plan is coverage for those denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions , or dumped by insurance companies. I could imagine it would be far easier to get past to just extend medicaid to cover people with pre-existing conditions or who had been dumped for getting catastrophic illness the same way they dump people for being old. I don't know if they'd try to work that in.

Zhaun's_Shade · 11-05-2009, 08:23 PM

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Veil · 11-05-2009, 09:32 PM

The more current republican office holders talk, the more i think they are functionally retarded. Sometimes i don't mind twisting the knife when it comes to party lines, but this is seriously scary shit. I'm just sick of this, and I'm appalled.

This is how the GOP plans to lower costs.

This is the democrat version.

Who wants to cut costs again? Your a fucking loon haus.

Yea lets dump everyone with a pre-existing condition onto medicaid great fucking idea. Even better would be to put them on medicare. Make it an even bigger fucking money pit. Not only the old and dying, but all the young and dying people too! WTF why not put anyone who's borderline uninsurable into medicare. Fisherman, medicare. Loggers, roofers, Xgames athletes, all on medicare. Lets take as much risk away from private insurers as possible, great idea. I'm not too hot on singlepayer, but holy shit i'd take single payer over that gem any day.

Holy fuck. The whole process of insurance is about spreading risk around. You want the government to take all the risk and let insurance corporations just collect premiums of only the healthiest americans. Jesus christ why not go single payer at that point?

The question isn't if your going to get sick, its when.

BurnemWizfyre · 11-05-2009, 09:53 PM

LOL I wonder how much they got paid to actually write that fucking bill, are you fucking kidding me?

Phelps · 11-05-2009, 10:46 PM

I'm not sure about you guys, but this bothers me.

It is the job of those in the legislative branch to write legislation. I trust a 1990 page bill more than a one-page alternative.

At what point did we turn into a country that desires nothing more than for our legislators to not write law? They've spent a lot of time arguing over the bill's length; they are a fucking party, make 50 people read 20 pages each and you are DONE. Done. That's an hours worth of reading.

How about it, GOP? I'm not saying it's a short bill, I'm saying it's a bullshit excuse when your job is to write laws to bitch about the length of laws.

As a disclaimer, I don't trust the DP to make things supremely efficient either; if there's one thing I can count on, it's that there will always be room for improvement.

Veil · 11-05-2009, 10:49 PM

Just for clarity its not a 1 page bill, i think theirs is 200 some odd pages, thats the cliff notes version of the republican bill. The salient points if you will. I still find it sad this is what the republicans could come up with after 100 some odd days?

Phelps · 11-05-2009, 10:52 PM

I figured as much, but my attention span is lacking right now; thanks for pointing that out though, it was kinda my assumption after all.

11-05-2009, 06:07 PM	#4956 (permalink)
GrobbeeTrull2.0 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 4,173	From Pittsburgh to the Altoona exit on I-70, it was $11 in toll. In 2002. Fuck. __________________ "When the last tree has died; and the last river been poisoned; and the last fish been caught, we will realise that we cannot eat money." - Cree proverb

11-05-2009, 10:46 PM	#4963 (permalink)
Phelps Not Related to Fred-needs-to-be-carbombed-Phelps Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: California Posts: 148 +3 Internets	I'm not sure about you guys, but this bothers me. It is the job of those in the legislative branch to write legislation. I trust a 1990 page bill more than a one-page alternative. At what point did we turn into a country that desires nothing more than for our legislators to not write law? They've spent a lot of time arguing over the bill's length; they are a fucking party, make 50 people read 20 pages each and you are DONE. Done. That's an hours worth of reading. How about it, GOP? I'm not saying it's a short bill, I'm saying it's a bullshit excuse when your job is to write laws to bitch about the length of laws. As a disclaimer, I don't trust the DP to make things supremely efficient either; if there's one thing I can count on, it's that there will always be room for improvement. __________________ Picture the most average American you can. Half of them are dumber than he is, and they get to vote.

11-05-2009, 10:49 PM	#4964 (permalink)
Veil Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 92 +5 Internets	Just for clarity its not a 1 page bill, i think theirs is 200 some odd pages, thats the cliff notes version of the republican bill. The salient points if you will. I still find it sad this is what the republicans could come up with after 100 some odd days? Last edited by Veil; 11-05-2009 at 10:52 PM..

11-05-2009, 10:52 PM	#4965 (permalink)
Phelps Not Related to Fred-needs-to-be-carbombed-Phelps Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: California Posts: 148 +3 Internets	I figured as much, but my attention span is lacking right now; thanks for pointing that out though, it was kinda my assumption after all. __________________ Picture the most average American you can. Half of them are dumber than he is, and they get to vote.

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11-05-2009, 06:15 PM	#4957 (permalink)
Zhaun's_Shade Death Panel Supporter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 2,633 -7 Internets	Guess Republicans revealed their health plan that will cover 3 of our 46 million uninsured! Yay!

11-05-2009, 08:19 PM	#4959 (permalink)
Haus Fires of Heaven WoW Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 550 -9 Internets	Maybe the idea of their plan is to actually reduce medical costs, which in turn would make it possible for reductions in insurance costs, which in turn would let people who couldn't afford insurance before get it... I know, I'm probably crazy. The hole in their plan is coverage for those denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions , or dumped by insurance companies. I could imagine it would be far easier to get past to just extend medicaid to cover people with pre-existing conditions or who had been dumped for getting catastrophic illness the same way they dump people for being old. I don't know if they'd try to work that in.

11-05-2009, 08:23 PM	#4960 (permalink)
Zhaun's_Shade Death Panel Supporter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 2,633 -7 Internets	Visit msnbc.com for Breaking News, World News, and News about the Economy

11-05-2009, 09:32 PM	#4961 (permalink)
Veil Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 92 +5 Internets	The more current republican office holders talk, the more i think they are functionally retarded. Sometimes i don't mind twisting the knife when it comes to party lines, but this is seriously scary shit. I'm just sick of this, and I'm appalled. This is how the GOP plans to lower costs. This is the democrat version. Who wants to cut costs again? Your a fucking loon haus. Yea lets dump everyone with a pre-existing condition onto medicaid great fucking idea. Even better would be to put them on medicare. Make it an even bigger fucking money pit. Not only the old and dying, but all the young and dying people too! WTF why not put anyone who's borderline uninsurable into medicare. Fisherman, medicare. Loggers, roofers, Xgames athletes, all on medicare. Lets take as much risk away from private insurers as possible, great idea. I'm not too hot on singlepayer, but holy shit i'd take single payer over that gem any day. Holy fuck. The whole process of insurance is about spreading risk around. You want the government to take all the risk and let insurance corporations just collect premiums of only the healthiest americans. Jesus christ why not go single payer at that point? The question isn't if your going to get sick, its when.

11-05-2009, 09:53 PM	#4962 (permalink)
BurnemWizfyre Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ingleside Texas Posts: 971 -34 Internets	LOL I wonder how much they got paid to actually write that fucking bill, are you fucking kidding me?