Are Republicans still a National Party? - Page 301

chaos · 10-01-2009, 09:21 AM

No, he is saying they SHOULD BE different. That no one SHOULD act like Glenn Beck, and that it SHOULD NOT be tolerated on EITHER side.

Bralkan · 10-01-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chips

Wouldn't the European extermination of Native Americans in both North and South America be classified as a holocaust using the above definition?

It was.

We just don't talk about it.

AladainAF · 10-01-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by chaos

No, he is saying they SHOULD BE different. That no one SHOULD act like Glenn Beck, and that it SHOULD NOT be tolerated on EITHER side.

hehehe! Thats exactly the shit I've been saying for months! Thanks for seeing the light, my friend!

chaos · 10-01-2009, 10:18 AM

Lots of people have been saying that, for a long time. I've always seen the light.

Alamando · 10-01-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AladainAF

hehehe! Thats exactly the shit I've been saying for months! Thanks for seeing the light, my friend!

Actual edit @ IRB - Stop helping.

I'm Rich Bitch · 10-01-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Screamfeeder

If you really do consider yourself an enlightened liberal then you should know exactly why it is not the way to go about doing things.

Wrong. Time to get in the gutter with Beck, Limbaugh, Karl Rove, Hannity, Joe Wilson, Sarah Palin and their ilk. Time to make Sean Hannity appear "Fair and Balanced". Time to fight fire with fire. There is a large minority of people (especially in the South) that only respond to idiotic statements and actions. Yelling, screaming, and making up shit like a moron appeals to Southerners. The Democrats need to do more of it.

When Beck calls Democrats Communists, a Democrat needs to call Beck a Fascist. The Democrats need to put in a resolution to refer to the Republican Party as the US Fascist Party. Not only will you make a lot of money and/or campaign contributions using that technique, it will damage the Republicans.

Being over the top works. Just look at Glenn Beck's ratings.

Screamfeeder · 10-01-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by I'm Rich Bitch

Yelling, screaming, and making up shit like a moron appeals to Southerners. The Democrats need to do more of it.

Shut the fuck up. You are whats wrong with the political landscape. You. Get that through you're tiny troll brain.

BurnemWizfyre · 10-01-2009, 11:23 AM

Moral high ground and good intentions are wonderful things, they just have a shitty track record of actually getting shit done.

Of course the repercussions could lead toward a downward spiral that we cant recover from, the entire situation sucks, Thank you republicans.

Zerai · 10-01-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by I'm Rich Bitch

Being over the top works. Just look at Glenn Beck's ratings.

Now look at the republican ratings.

Then shut the fuck up.

Heylel Teomim · 10-01-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by I'm Rich Bitch

There is a large minority of people (especially in the South) that only respond to idiotic statements and actions. Yelling, screaming, and making up shit like a moron appeals to Southerners.

Die a fucking fire IRB, seriously. You come in here all the goddamn time spouting shit about the south when you have absolutely no idea. I grew up in it, and I still live here. It's not fucking Deliverance.

Eomer · 10-01-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BurnemWizfyre

Moral high ground and good intentions are wonderful things, they just have a shitty track record of actually getting shit done.

Of course the repercussions could lead toward a downward spiral that we cant recover from, the entire situation sucks, Thank you republicans.

So, you blame the Republicans for the downward spiral, but seem to be making excuses for those on your side who are doing the exact same thing. Do you not see the hypocrisy there? Political discourse shouldn't start and end with "HE DID IT FIRST."

BurnemWizfyre · 10-01-2009, 12:18 PM

Oh trust me i see it, i am also fully aware of the consequences it could have. The problem is Republicans aren't trying to do anything but fuck with democrats since the election, This country needs health care and the Republicans are doing fuck all to see that happens. Thats why i blame the republicans.

For the record, i am not a Democrat or a Republican. I lean more towards Republican then i do Democrat, but i absolutely hate what Republicans are doing and where they are going.

Mario Speedwagon · 10-01-2009, 12:28 PM

Man who gives a fuck how enlightened the political discourse is? Do you any of you actually believe these shit flinging monkeys in Washington have any interest in real reform? Even if you do, do you actually think they are going to get anything worthwhile done? Of course not, when's the last fucking time that happened?

Moral high ground is nice and all but it only makes you feel warm and fuzzy. It doesn't get shit done and when your opponent refuses to get out of the mud(AND IT'S ACTUALLY FUCKING WORKING) how long are you going to stand on the side pleading with them to get out of the slop while more and more people just gobble up the shit he's throwing? I say fuck that. Jump right god damn in there, knock that motherfucker out, and drown him in his own shit.

The discourse in this country is totally fucked and it's never going to get any better. I don't know how so many of you can hold onto to this dream of meaningful conversations and reform. This is it folks. Either jump in the mud and have some fun or spend the rest of your life crying on the sidelines about what could be.

Celebrindal · 10-01-2009, 12:31 PM

Well, the question is, how do we go about enlightening people and making them aware? Any approach the Democrats have done has not really worked, including the President himself trying to squash the lies and rumors.

Everything now just seems like you have to be some sort of TV ratings spectacle to get proper information out.

I feel he should of stated during Wolf Blitzer's interrogation, well obviously they aren't literally wanting people to die, but it sure feels like it, while the Republicans sit on their thumbs and do nothing except kick sand and throw rocks.

Other than that, I was fine with what he said. I'm sure that's what he feels and his intention, as opposed to certain people who were spouting the Death Panels were actually in full belief of them.

Mario Speedwagon · 10-01-2009, 12:43 PM

People believe what they want. There is NOTHING you can do to "enlighten" 90% of people and the people you could have already researched and enlightened themselves.

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BurnemWizfyre Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ingleside Texas Posts: 971 -34 Internets	Moral high ground and good intentions are wonderful things, they just have a shitty track record of actually getting shit done. Of course the repercussions could lead toward a downward spiral that we cant recover from, the entire situation sucks, Thank you republicans. Last edited by BurnemWizfyre; 10-01-2009 at 11:26 AM..

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Celebrindal Spoon! Join Date: May 2003 Location: NY Posts: 1,723 +64 Internets	Well, the question is, how do we go about enlightening people and making them aware? Any approach the Democrats have done has not really worked, including the President himself trying to squash the lies and rumors. Everything now just seems like you have to be some sort of TV ratings spectacle to get proper information out. I feel he should of stated during Wolf Blitzer's interrogation, well obviously they aren't literally wanting people to die, but it sure feels like it, while the Republicans sit on their thumbs and do nothing except kick sand and throw rocks. Other than that, I was fine with what he said. I'm sure that's what he feels and his intention, as opposed to certain people who were spouting the Death Panels were actually in full belief of them. __________________ EQ2: Larfox - Defiler - AB Join the FoH Rosetta@Home team & check out the Science Video Thread.

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10-01-2009, 09:21 AM	#4501 (permalink)
chaos Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NoVa Posts: 7,162 +29 Internets	No, he is saying they SHOULD BE different. That no one SHOULD act like Glenn Beck, and that it SHOULD NOT be tolerated on EITHER side.

10-01-2009, 10:18 AM	#4504 (permalink)
chaos Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NoVa Posts: 7,162 +29 Internets	Lots of people have been saying that, for a long time. I've always seen the light.

10-01-2009, 12:18 PM	#4512 (permalink)
BurnemWizfyre Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ingleside Texas Posts: 971 -34 Internets	Oh trust me i see it, i am also fully aware of the consequences it could have. The problem is Republicans aren't trying to do anything but fuck with democrats since the election, This country needs health care and the Republicans are doing fuck all to see that happens. Thats why i blame the republicans. For the record, i am not a Democrat or a Republican. I lean more towards Republican then i do Democrat, but i absolutely hate what Republicans are doing and where they are going.