Has Evolution Been Proven to be True ?

[tjac]

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

evolution is real but i dont want to think man comes from a stupid monkey.

You can rest assured that we didn't. We came from something stupid monkey-like.

[Malakriss]

Evolution is true, because regardless of what ends up being true, we will merely change the meaning of the word "Evolution" to match.

Face it, you lose no matter what. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go perform some enhanced interrogation techniques on radical islamic terrorists.

[Vatoreus]

Originally Posted by Malakriss

Evolution is true, because regardless of what ends up being true, we will merely change the meaning of the word "Evolution" to match.

Face it, you lose no matter what. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go perform some enhanced interrogation techniques on radical islamic terrorists.

No, we don't alter the meaning of words in this nation. Just look at the word marriage!

[Araxen]

Scientists Discover Fish in Act of Evolution in Africa’s Greatest Lake : EcoWorldly

[Snugglebear]

Evolution is so true that it's a victim of its own success. I think the media distort minor biological differences and scientists' tendency toward tossing out fun unproven facts in interviews to make it seem like EVERYTHING is survival of the fittest. Like big noses vs. small noses, or the fat around Asian eyes that makes them 'squint.' These things, and other differences among the human species, probably do not serve a major(or minor) purpose. It could have just been that populations were separated during a cataclysm or ice age and due to the founder effect strange traits were expressed disproportionately throughout the population with neutral benefits. Not every biological difference has some amazing evolutionary advantage. If it was so cold in Asia at one point that your eyes froze out if you didn't have Chinese eyes, I doubt humans could survive at all.

[Eyashusa]

can't we just make a conspiracy theory/crazy shit thread and put this and the 9/11 and the JFK thread into one superthread?

[Malakriss]

Originally Posted by Eyashusa

can't we just make a conspiracy theory/crazy shit thread and put this and the 9/11 and the JFK thread into one superthread?

No, because then they will just develop bigger and bigger conspiracies, for example: Evolution and 9/11 are really elements of one large master plan set in motion by JFK before he faked his death. Al Gore's failed bid that placed Bush in power was also preset, which is why 9/11 happened in the first two years of presidency. Global warming and economic crisis are the next steps to JFK's world domination.

[Sylverlokk]

Well I don't often get to throw this out so even if this is a "prove evolution" thread rather then a creationism thread heres....

An index to creationist claims and their refutations.
An Index to Creationist Claims

[rangoth]

Originally Posted by Snugglebear

Evolution is so true that it's a victim of its own success. I think the media distort minor biological differences and scientists' tendency toward tossing out fun unproven facts in interviews to make it seem like EVERYTHING is survival of the fittest. Like big noses vs. small noses, or the fat around Asian eyes that makes them 'squint.' These things, and other differences among the human species, probably do not serve a major(or minor) purpose. It could have just been that populations were separated during a cataclysm or ice age and due to the founder effect strange traits were expressed disproportionately throughout the population with neutral benefits. Not every biological difference has some amazing evolutionary advantage. If it was so cold in Asia at one point that your eyes froze out if you didn't have Chinese eyes, I doubt humans could survive at all.

First off....nevermind on that.

Anyway that is exactly what evolution is(by my definition woot woot). It doesn't mean that next generation has laser cannons for arms and thus strong and they win.

It's simple shit. A common example is the "black sheep" situation. Where...a moth say is a different color than the other moths, but that new color blends in better with the tree bark thus giving it a higher chance for survival. It mates and has an increased risk to pass on this new color. On and so forth down the chain the moth has evolved.

Now while true that every human physical characteristic difference among races/peoples are not evolutionary, perhaps some are. Skin color for one is.

[Dirus]

The theories of evolution by natural selection and common ancestry will never be "proven". Thats not possible. They will always be theories, not because we just aren't quite sure, but because, in science, theories are as good as it gets. They are models or explanations that are backed by evidence and make predictions that have been seen to be true. Also, there are NO competing models or explanations for the phenomenon. There is no other theory for the diversity of life on Earth.

Scientists continue to add to the mountain of evidence pointing to evolution and common ancestry. At this point, denying these ideas means you just don't want them to be true. That is the only way someone can look at the evidence and doubt evolution.

p.s. I'm don't think there are any real evolution doubters left on this board, and I think we preaching to the choir here.

[Araxen]

FREE LUMIE

[Zeste]

Evolution is FACT.

Look at how these forums have evolved. It used to be a place where retarded posts were in the minority.

[Malakriss]

Wrong.

Retarded posts are still in the minority. The majority have gone so far beyond that point they already progressed into the next category.

[Flight]

Originally Posted by Screamfeeder

Oh and Aych, thanks but I know the definition I just wanted to hear what Flight thought it was because I guarantee you his definition is wrong.

Evolution is change in living species that occur over time at a genetic level.

The 'theory of evolution' is more commonly held to be the spontaneous creation of new species through cumulative evolution and that all life can be traced back to one common organism.


Of course the first has been proven to be true. The 'theory of evolution', however, is still just that - a theory.

I want to underline again that I don't want any religious views or beliefs, or any alternative proposals brought into it, but the scientific line is still that the 'theory of evolution' is most probably true because nothing else can explain it.

I'm open minded and logical. I was wondering if there had been any new evidence over the last 5-10 years that changed my opinion.

[Screamfeeder]

Originally Posted by Flight

Of course the first has been proven to be true. The 'theory of evolution', however, is still just that - a theory.

Ok we are making progress.

Now you need to define for us what you think a theory is. There are two ways of using the word theory.

There is the way it is used in scientific terminology(Theory of Evolution), and the colloquial use.

It sounds like you are using the colloquial one when you should be applying the scientific one.

The "theory of Gravity" is just that - a theory.

The "Germ Theory" is just that - a theory.

So now please let us know what version of theory you are assigning to evolution.