Has Evolution Been Proven to be True ?

[Flight]

Originally Posted by Lumie

Unlike you and most other people, I simply don't just accept another persons word for things and actually look into them myself. I know reading and researching takes lots of work and all and I know how lazy most people are so odds are people are for the most part, completely buried up to their neck in lies and bullshit because they can't be bothered to get the shovel.

Lumie

I'm pretty much like you in this regard. Also, I share a number of your religious beliefs. Put those assets together and I would be surprised if I don't know the Bible as well as you, having read it multiple times, back to front.

Unlike you, I haven't been inside a church building for the best part of two decades. There's a reason for that. I believe in the Bible, I believe in Jesus, but I have zero belief in the vast majority of people who call themselves 'Christians'.

Jesus reserved his harshest criticism for the Pharisees and Saducees. The self-righteous, religious people who sought to oversee and look down on the common people. Pretty much you, two thousand years ago. You probably think you suffer 'persecution' due to believing in and stating the truth. Has it occurred to you that most of the 'persecution' may be because of the way you promote your beliefs and your sanctimonious, self-righteous attitude, rather than the truths you seek to communicate ?

Like two thousand years ago, if Jesus was here today he wouldn't walk around the cities accusing the regular folks on the streets, he would have the most bitter criticism for the self righteous, religious folk.


I agree with the folk who have shown disgust at the evil that so called 'religion' causes - the people who invoke violence in the name of religion. These people certainly have zero to do with Christianity. The far more incidious misuse of Christianity is found amongst the masses of the self righteous.

[Grooverider]

So to recap; evolution is yet to be conclusively proven to be true but is generally accepted as so in academic circles.

[chaos]

Originally Posted by Grooverider

So to recap; evolution is yet to be conclusively proven to be true but is generally accepted as so in academic circles.

True. When put in context of the scientific process, and considering that simple facts such as "the earth rotates around the sun" also fall under the same caveat, it becomes kind of hard to dispute without sounding like a crazy.

[aychamo_aycono]

Originally Posted by Grooverider

So to recap; evolution is yet to be conclusively proven to be true but is generally accepted as so in academic circles.

Evolution is only *not* conclusively proven to be true due to the infinitely remote possibility that someone will somehow produce evidence showing it's not true. You have about a ten trillion better chance of having sex with Jessica Alba than you do in finding some flaw in evolutionary theory that makes it untrue. It's about as likely as you dropping a ball and it falling upwards towards the sky.

[Lumie]

Unlike you, I haven't been inside a church building for the best part of two decades.

Ok so I guess you've got spies watching me and know my every move huh? I love how sure you seem to sound when you make assumptions about things you couldn't possibly know.

Jesus reserved his harshest criticism for the Pharisees and Saducees. The self-righteous, religious people who sought to oversee and look down on the common people.

Um you think that's me? I'm quite sure I already knew this before you pointing it out which is why I've said that churches are evil.

(Luke 6:43-44)
15“Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are savage wolves. 16You will know them by their fruit. Grapes aren't gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles, are they? 17In the same way, every good tree produces good fruit, but a rotten tree produces bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, and a rotten tree cannot produce good fruit. 19Every tree that doesn’t produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into a fire. 20So by their fruit you will know them.”

1Now there were false prophets among the people, just as there also will be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies and even deny the Master who bought them,(2 Peter 2)

Trust me you don't know me if you think I'm like those corrupt religious zealots.

[Indiana]

Originally Posted by Lumie

Trust me you don't know me if you think I'm like those corrupt religious zealots.

No, you're the voice of reason and moderation. Clearly.

[MrGraham]

hay guyz wuts goin on in dis thread

I have an actual evolution question out of curiosity. Why have we evolved to really enjoy the taste of unhealthy stuff (fried oil, delicious sugary syrup) and not really enjoy the taste of some of the most healthy foods? Shouldn't millions of years ago the humans that liked healthier foods had more offspring!? Why do I crave a delicious Dairy Queen Oreo Blizzard so badly?

[Derivator]

Those types of foods (fatty and sugary) used to be rare and dense in energy value. Now that adaptation is exploited by the food industry to sell you garbage that you love to eat.

[aychamo_aycono]

Originally Posted by Derivator

Those types of foods (fatty and sugary) used to be rare and dense in energy value. Now that adaptation is exploited by the food industry to sell you garbage that you love to eat.

Great concise answer.

[Xequecal]

Originally Posted by MrGraham

hay guyz wuts goin on in dis thread

I have an actual evolution question out of curiosity. Why have we evolved to really enjoy the taste of unhealthy stuff (fried oil, delicious sugary syrup) and not really enjoy the taste of some of the most healthy foods? Shouldn't millions of years ago the humans that liked healthier foods had more offspring!? Why do I crave a delicious Dairy Queen Oreo Blizzard so badly?

That shit doesn't kill you until you're past the age of 50, well after you've already (or not) reproduced.

[Erronius]

Originally Posted by Lumie

Ok so I guess you've got spies watching me and know my every move huh?

Am I the only one here who doesn't find it at all hard to believe that Lumie thinks he really does have people spying on him and watching his every move? I know Lumie probably wasn't being serious, but still...