November 3rd Election Poll

[Alamando]

Originally Posted by Ayeshala

A ballot is something you should understand with a glance.

This is Ballot FAIL.

Even paper ballots can suffer from fraud.

[Citten]

Furthermore, The negativity the republicans have displayed every step of the way has implications on peoples ability to be objective which is why many would think that.

It's quite hard to be objective to two sides if one side is giving you no material to have a true objective standpoint on. 'Bias' is then what it's called. Which is horseshit. Your republican party HAS fucked with elections the past 8 years, yes, it IS probable election fraud is happening from the republicans more commonly than the democrats.

[Tuco]

lol alamando

Honestly the trick ballots don't bother me much because I want Obama to win, and if I had to bet, Obama supporters would be better at voting with a trick ballot that McCain supporters.

[Smocca]

Originally Posted by Soriak

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If it was just the arrow ballot I would be fine with it. Make that arrow ballot the national standard for all I care. The problem isn't that one ballot being complicated. Its that we have different ballots with different standards all over the place. When a problem pops ups (and with how many different polling places and standards we have, there are always problems) we have to go through this massive ordeal (see palm beach 2000). The end result isn't just a shitty system, but also the losing side always blames the system for their loss (see Democrats post 2000 election with Florida or Democrats post 2004 election with Ohio).

There's just no upside to having our election standards vary so much from county to county. We could do things much more efficiently and with many fewer problems if we had a national system. The actual process of voting should be the easiest thing in the world.

[Kiksar]

Voted for Obama and for renaming a sewage treatment plan to the George W. Bush Sewage Treatment Plant. San Francisco is crazy.

Also, I plan on getting all my news for the evening from the comments here:
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Do not defy the will of the LORD! He has spoken to me in a dream and fortold of Obama winning.
God Willing in 4 years the Lord will send us another good man like George Bush.

DO NOT VOTE MCCAIN!!!! OBAMA IS GOD’S WILL TO PUNISH THIS SINFUL NATION!

if this watermelon head gets in office you can say goodbye to your jobs and your way of life.we will be certain to be in poverty as a nation and nowhere to turn too , except yourself.there will be riots and looting and many robberies do to no control of the government.you can say goodbye to your kids collage dreams and making a good living for themselves and their families.this nation is going to be in total chaos in a matter of time , i say by summer time.food and gas will be scarce . your family will consider you a failure and families will turn against each other due to this utterly chaos.the military will be in dissaray as well. so , my fellow americans , you want to vote this melon head in , you deserve everything you have coming to you. you have been brainwashed and lied to by the media , our educators and of course melon head.anarchy will be our new way of life and i look forward to it.

BEN T, WHERE CAN I READ ABOUT THOSE FACTS? WAS OBAMA REALLY INVOLVED WITH TERRORISTS IN THE PAST? IS THAT FACT OR RUMOR?
I AM FOR MCCAIN, BUT I STILL WANT TO KNOW THE FACTS.

NOBAMA!!!

MCCAIN ALL THE WAY!!!

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Good Bless our Nation!

[Araxen]

Looking good my friends, looking good...

STATE BY STATE EXIT POLLS

VIRGINIA -- POLL CLOSE: 7:00 PM

-- 22% of the vote is African American and Obama is winning 91% of it.
-- Among white voters, 58% are backing McCain, while 41% are supporting Obama. In 2004, Kerry won 32% of the vote here while Bush won 68% of it.
-- 72% disapprove of the job Bush is doing; only 27% approve.
-- More than half of voters think McCain will continue Bush's policies; fewer think he will take the country in a different direction.
-- Obama is winning the support of both men and women, but white men and white women are backing McCain.
-- Among whites, one in five said race was a factor in their vote today and they backed Mccain.
-- More blacks (4 in 10) said race was a factor and they voted overwhelmingly for Obama.
-- Obama looks to be improving on Kerry's margins in Northern Virginia.
-- Most voters say McCain as the candidate on the attack: nearly 7 in 10 say he attacked Obama unfairly; fewer than half say Obama attacked McCain unfairly.

INDIANA -- POLL CLOSE: 7:00 PM

-- The economy is the top issue here (as it is nationally) and Obama appears to be benefitting from that. Among economy voters, Obama 56% to 43%.
-- White working class (those without a college degree and earn less than $50K) are backing Obama slightly over McCain by 51% to 48%.
-- Men are divided in their support, while Obama has the advantage with women.
-- 42% of voters are white evangelicals, up from 35% in 2004. McCain is getting 68% of their support. Bush captured 77% of the vote in 2004.
-- 35% of voters in IN were looking for a candidate who could bring about change, while almost as many (33%) were looking for someone who shares their values. The change voters are supporting Obama, while the values voters are supporting McCain.

GEORGIA -- POLL CLOSE: 7:00 PM

-- 30% of voters are African American (up from 25% in 2004) and 97% are backing Obama.
-- Whites are backing McCain by about the same margin they supported Bush in 2004.
-- The top candidate quality was values, closely followed by change. Those who selected values as the most important quality backed McCain, while the change voters supported Obama.

NORTH CAROLINA -- POLL CLOSE: 7:30 PM

-- 22% of voters were African American (26% in 2004) and Obama is getting 97% of their vote. As expected, an improvement on Kerry's performance four years ago.
-- White voters are backing McCain by 62% to 37%.
-- 11% of voters in NC are new voters, voting for the first time this year, they too have the economy on their minds and 3 in 4 of them are backing Obama.
-- Change and values are nearly tied for the #1 quality. Obama wins the change people, while McCain takes the values people.

OHIO -- POLL CLOSE: 7:30 PM

-- 86% are worried about the direction of the economy, including more than half who are very worried. (Obama is getting the support of those worried voters.)
-- Hillary Clinton won the primary here, and Obama is getting the support of 82% of Democrats who backed her in that contest. 16% are backing McCain.
-- 12% of voters in Ohio are black, up from 10% in 2004. 98% of them are backing Obama.
-- Both white women and white women are going for McCain.
-- More voters see view Obama has a candidate who is in touch with people like them, while more voters see McCain has having the experience to serve effectively as president.
-- Still, 4 in 10 Ohio voters think Obama's positions on the issues are too liberal.

PENNSYLVANIA -- POLL CLOSE: 8:00 PM

-- A quarter of voters in PA are white Catholics and they are splitting their votes. Kerry lost these voters to Bush by 48% to 52%.
-- Seniors are one-fifth of the electorate and just over half are backing Obama. These voters narrowly backed Kerry by 51% to 48% in 2004.
-- Obama is getting about two-thirds of the support of voters age 18-29. Kerry won 60% of them in 2004.
-- Most voters in the Keystone state made up their minds long ago, but among those who decided in the last week (just over 1 in 10 voters), they are narrowly backing McCain by 51% to 47%.

FLORIDA -- POLL CLOSE: 8:00 PM

-- 13% of voters here were Hispanics (15% in 2004) and they are breaking for Obama by 55% to 45%. This is a reversal from 2004 when Hispanics backed Bush by 56% to 44%.
-- Seniors (24% of voters) are backing McCain over Obama by 53% 46%. In 2004 Bush edged out Kerry by 51% to 48%.
-- 13% of voters are African American in Florida and they and 95% are backing Obama.
-- White men and white women are backing McCain.
-- McCain wins on experience here, while more voters see Obama as being more in touch with people like them.

MISSOURI -- POLL CLOSE: 8:00 PM

-- Young voters (19% of voters) are backing Obama; while seniors (17% of voters) give McCain the edge.
-- White evangelical are 38% of the vote in Missouri and they are backing McCain by 67% to 32%. Not as strong a showing as Bush in 2004.

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[Lonin]

Jesus, CNN is showing some of the voter suppression and misinformation tactics being pushed out today. They've highlighted the text messages saying Obama voters should vote tomorrow because of the long lines and ridiculously deceitful robo-calls being put out by the McCain campaign.

On a side note, anyone else see Rick Sanchez on CNN earlier rip Joe the Plumber a new asshole? Funny shit.

Edit - Found the video:

[guanna]

I was handed a very simple paper ballot in Arizona, I used a black ink pen they provided to fill in circles, I then fed the ballot into a machine.

[ChewieTobbacca]

Ballots down here in CA were a simple fill in the bubble as well

[brekk]

Originally Posted by Nebuchadnezzar

A paper ballot with fucking bubbles that you can fill in with a pen and feed through a machine for quick and timely results, how hard is that?

exactly what I used. column for president, representative, senator, and two prop questions. All bubbles filled in with a provided black marker, then feed into a machine that accepts it anyway. Lady said doesn't matter how you feed it in.

[guanna]

Lady told me the same, didn't matter which way it was fed into the machine, just don't fold it in half and put it in sideways. I know I was pretty high, but even I can figure out that much. Loving my sticker.

[Cerin]

Originally Posted by Sunder

If the election was fair, Obama would win Virginia and Pennsylvania hands down. The ONLY people who would benefit from fixing the elections in those states are CONSERVATIVES. And they will stop at nothing to destroy the very freedoms we enjoy as REAL Americans.

Pennsylvania I could see, but Virginia? You're out of your mind. That state hasn't voted Democrat since 1964. There's a strong republican base in that state, and even the far southeastern urban Democratic areas tend to get dampened by the military base and family population there. I know, I used to live there (and was stationed in the state for 3 years).

I'm not trying to say McCain is going to win Virginia for sure, but it should be far from a huge early lock for Obama.

[ChewieTobbacca]

NoVa has grown in population greatly. Polls were actually showing Obama ahead

PPP had McCain winning Whites (not just White Men) 56-42 and still had Obama winning by 6 points in their last poll.

If McCain is indeed winning White Men 58-39, I got to believe he will do better among White Women thereby getting the White Vote to an M+14 or lesser.

Conclusion: If these exit polls of VA are accurate Obama will win VA by better than 6 points.

Keep in mind it was 72% Bush and 27% Kerry in 2004 among white men in Virginia. If the #'s are that clsoe for McCain (fuck exit polls really) though, then he's in trouble.

Of course, seeing as how VA has shitty election procedures, they might not stop voting til 9PM or something.

[Soriak]

Polls have Obama +5 in Virginia... that's a strong lead.

[Soriak]

The virtual capitol on CNN is cool.