November 3rd Election Poll

[Mippo]

We wouldn't need any stupid bailout programs if Republicans never got into power to begin with. Republicans and the economy just do not mix at all. It's like drinking a cement mixer, you will throw up.

[chaos]

Originally Posted by Frax

Because your 'leaders' in congress aren't fucking things up beyond belief right now with these bullshit bailout programs.

Stupid hate filled rhetoric focused on one man instead of the real problem, as usual.

The man in charge takes the blame, that's how it works. They need to make that "The buck stops here..." sign a permanent part of the resolute desk, or put it on our money or something so maybe people will remember it. If Bush was named Clinton and of a different party, would you be giving him the same kind of leeway? Bush earned his reputation over the course of 8 years.

[Frax]

To the last two posters: You weren't voting George Bush out of office. He was leaving regardless of how the election turned out.

If you don't believe the root of our financial problems lie in the lack of accountability in congress and in the pathetic statesmanship and leadership of people such as pelosi, reid, and barney frank, you are obviously not in tune with what the fuck goes on in this country. And if that is all this election meant to you, you are in for a rude fucking awakening over the next four years. As soon as the election was over all Reid could think about was trying to hang Joe Lieberman. WOW change sure is coming to Washington. Or...not...

oh yeah, "happy" thanksgiving.

[chaos]

Fine whatever dude, the Democrats are the root of all the country's problems and Bush is a misunderstood hero.

[Frax]

Originally Posted by chaos

Fine whatever dude, the Democrats are the root of all the country's problems and Bush is a misunderstood hero.

Way to try and turn the conversation into partisan bullshit as usual.

Reid should sign you up, he'll probably need some more brownshirts.

[Smocca]

Originally Posted by Frax

To the last two posters: You weren't voting George Bush out of office. He was leaving regardless of how the election turned out.

If you don't believe the root of our financial problems lie in the lack of accountability in congress and in the pathetic statesmanship and leadership of people such as pelosi, reid, and barney frank, you are obviously not in tune with what the fuck goes on in this country. And if that is all this election meant to you, you are in for a rude fucking awakening over the next four years. As soon as the election was over all Reid could think about was trying to hang Joe Lieberman. WOW change sure is coming to Washington. Or...not...

oh yeah, "happy" thanksgiving.

Okay I'll bite. Explain to me, the idiot who is not in tune with what the fuck goes on in this country, how Pelosi, Reid and Frank are the root of our financial problems. Details please.

[chaos]

Originally Posted by Frax

Way to try and turn the conversation into partisan bullshit as usual.

Reid should sign you up, he'll probably need some more brownshirts.

What the fuck? You sit here with a straight face and let the President for the past 8 years completely off the hook for anything, even though he is STILL President and is AT BEST ineffective and currently just making the situation worse with his "bailout" shit. And you lay the blame for EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING squarely on the feet of the Democratic leadership. And somehow I am the one spewing the partisan bullshit. You have got to be fucking kidding me. Are you really Etoille's troll account? Are you here just to piss me off with your blatant hypocracy?

[Strifen]

Originally Posted by Smocca

Okay I'll bite. Explain to me, the idiot who is not in tune with what the fuck goes on in this country, how Pelosi, Reid and Frank are the root of our financial problems. Details please.

They aren't by any means. They do make good scapegoats though

[Frax]

So bush is more responsible than congress for everything? The president is not all powerful and royal. He's an elected citizen who only controls one of the three branches of government. It's ludicrous to blame one of the branches that has day to day impact on life in the USA without looking closer the others. Congress actually creates our laws and approves tax expenditures, the President is held hostage to pork spending as much as the very few congressmen/women who fight against it to get anything done. Very few laws pass cleanly without some fuckhead in congress wanting money blown on some pet project in his state. Spend some time looking through the laws passed in congress just the last couple of years. You don't even have to go past "Bailout Bill" from october to see a horrible example of our government in action. To authorize 700bn, it took something on the order 100bn more in wasted tax money in pork to get it passed. Congress has no moral or ethical core anymore. It's all about pissing away your tax money faster than you can earn it, and lying to you the same time as they are doing it.

Things are only going to get worse from here on out. Pretty soon Nancy Pelosi will be able to double her flower expenditures so that even more peons like you and me can work an entire year to pay taxes so that she can put flowers in her office to the tune of $40,000 a year. But Bush is responsible for everything bad in the USA, right?

Harry Reid, instead of sending a letter begging Clear Channel and wasting time on things like this Democrats.senate.gov - Senator Harry Reid, Majority Leader he'll just have his rubber stamp president outlaw Limbaugh outright from AFN. But Bush was incompetent and bad for America, right?

Maybe if they weren't over taxing the citizens and wasting epic amounts of tax revenue over the last thirty years things might not be the way they are now. The best way to keep our free market economy moving is to ensure that there is cash moving through all levels of the system. When you tax the tax base into not spending much of their hard earned money the same time as you are spending everything you can beg, borrow or steal/tax like a drunken college student in Cancun on a spring break bender you aren't showing much restraint, leadership, or care for this country. The national debt has doubled or tripled during this current administration, it also doubled or tripled during the clinton administration. Blaming all our troubles on GWB is convient, and he makes an easy target, and indeed shares some blame. However, there are 535 other people in Washington who decide how/what/where money goes, and most of them do not have your best interests at heart.

What great change is coming to america...or is it? If you guys think Obama can control this gang of thieves running congress, you are mistaken. You've imbibed far too much of the IRB kool-aid.

[chaos]

So your argument is that the President for the last 8 years, 6 of those years with a Republican majority in both houses of Congress, bears no responsibility. It's all on Congress. You're so fucking full of shit. There is blame to go around, for all parties in government. And you want to give Bush a pass, cause really he's a great President. Even if the country does go to absolute shit during his administration, it's not his fault. What a fucking joke. Yeah let's see if you extend that same oversight to Obama.

I mean holy shit. You are just ACHING to throw out any Democratic name you can and bury them in this economic mess, label the Democrats (I note you didn't bring up any Republican Congressmen) as unethical when it was the goddamn Republicans who killed the bailout bill.... but it's ME who's being partisan? All this while you defend Bush, the CEO, the top man, and relinquish him of ANY responsibility, and it's ME who's partisan? Your attitude, right here, this is why we can't have nice things.

And BTW I would have called the Republicans who killed the bailout modern day political heroes.... until they changed their vote once the pork bullshit was thrown into the bill. PLENTY of blame.... for EVERYONE.

[Frax]

Originally Posted by chaos

So your argument is that the President for the last 8 years, 6 of those years with a Republican majority in both houses of Congress, bears no responsibility. It's all on Congress. You're so fucking full of shit. There is blame to go around, for all parties in government. And you want to give Bush a pass, cause really he's a great President. Even if the country does go to absolute shit during his administration, it's not his fault. What a fucking joke. Yeah let's see if you extend that same oversight to Obama.

I mean holy shit. You are just ACHING to throw out any Democratic name you can and bury them in this economic mess, label the Democrats (I note you didn't bring up any Republican Congressmen) as unethical when it was the goddamn Republicans who killed the bailout bill.... but it's ME who's being partisan? All this while you defend Bush, the CEO, the top man, and relinquish him of ANY responsibility, and it's ME who's partisan? Your attitude, right here, this is why we can't have nice things.

And BTW I would have called the Republicans who killed the bailout modern day political heroes.... until they changed their vote once the pork bullshit was thrown into the bill. PLENTY of blame.... for EVERYONE.

Do you even fucking read posts?

Blaming all our troubles on GWB is convenient, and he makes an easy target, and indeed shares some blame.

edit: fixed convenient spelling!

[chaos]

You spent 3 paragraphs, just in that post, putting the blame for everything since the Kennedy assassination on Nancy Pelosi and trying to shift away from Bush. Or indeed, any Republican. Yet, it's others who are blinded by partisanship. I read your posts and I know what you are trying to say, and you are wrong. The man is the CURRENT President.

Let's just be friends and admit that every member of government has failed us in some way. Some more than others.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

Originally Posted by Szlia

I would be curious to see that same poll for democrates back in 2004. I would guess Hillary Clinton was where Sarah Palin is and Barack Obama where Bobby Jindal is...

Maybe. The difference is that the Republican party is a lower income, Southern and rurual, White Anglo-Saxon Protestant-ONLY party. Not only that but they are a party that do not like intellectuals or people who are considered educated in any way. They are the "Joe the Plumber" party. Therefore, Bobby Jindal has absolutely no chance to ever be the Republican candidate for President. Never. Ever. That means the Leaders of the Republican party will be limited.

Palin goes stronger...


Sarah Palin: A digital superstar

Three weeks after the Republican ticket suffered a sweeping defeat at the polls, Sarah Palin continues to dominate search engine queries, cable news and online video sites.

The only American politician who generates comparable interest is President-elect Barack Obama. No one else is close.

[Araxen]

heh...

0-5 For Fox News - mediabistro.com: FishbowlDC

As we've been documenting, Fox News hasn't gotten a question in during President-elect Barack Obama's five press conferences since the election.

Today was another. Questions instead went to such outlets as ABC, New York Times, CBS, Reuters and the Associated Press.

In related Fox News news, see the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette's recent profile of Brit Hume.

>UPDATE: Questions went to Liz Sidoti (AP), Caren Bohan (Reuters), Jake Tapper (ABC), Peter Baker (NYT), John McCormick (Tribune), Tribune, Dean Reynolds (CBS).

>UPDATE: Christina Bellantoni writes, "New seating at Obama presser: popcorn v. mints."

[Malakriss]

FOX doesn't ask questions, they make up the answers.