NYT: States' purges of voter rolls appear illegal

[Scorpvenom]

Thoughts?

Since a lot of the new voter registrations are more than likely for Obama, how much could this affect him?

While there is apparently no proof that this is being orchestrated by the republicans, the Ohio Secretary of State thinks otherwise (see bold below). Regardless, I don't see how this can't be anything but a major boost (and possible election changer) for John McCain. With the election only a mere 20 someodd days off, I have little hope that this will be fixed in time.

Here, I'm going to open up a shit storm: Will / are the republicans try(ing) to steal this election?

The below quotes are NOT the entire article, just pieces of it that I found interesting. Please click the link below for the full article:

NYT: States' purges of voter rolls appear illegal - The New York Times - MSNBC.com

States may be improperly removing voters who have moved within the state, election experts said, or who are considered inactive because they have failed to vote in two consecutive federal elections. For example, major voter registration drives have been held this year in Colorado, which has also had a significant population increase since the last presidential election, but the state has recorded a net loss of nearly 100,000 voters from its rolls since 2004.

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Nevada officials said the large number of Social Security checks had resulted from county clerks entering Social Security numbers and driver’s license numbers in the wrong fields before records were sent to the state. They could not estimate how many records might have been affected by the problem, but they said it was corrected several weeks ago.

Other states described similar problems in entering data.

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In Michigan, some 33,000 voters were removed from the rolls in August, a figure that is far higher than the number of deaths in the state during the same period — about 7,100 — or the number of people who moved out of the state — about 4,400, according to data from the Postal Service.

In Colorado, some 37,000 people were removed from the rolls in the three weeks after July 21. During that time, about 5,100 people moved out of the state and about 2,400 died, according to postal data and death records.

In Louisiana, at least 18,000 people were dropped from the rolls in the five weeks after July 23. Over the same period, at least 1,600 people moved out of state and at least 3,300 died.

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Usually, when state election officials check a registration and find that it does not match a database entry, they alert local election officials to contact the voter and request further proof of identification. If that is not possible, most states flag the voter file and require identification from the voter at the polling place.

In Florida, Iowa, Louisiana and South Dakota, the problem is more serious because voters are not added to the rolls until the states remove the flags.

Ms. McFall said she was angry to learn from the state recently that it was her responsibility to contact each flagged voter to clear up the discrepancies before Election Day. “This situation with voter registrations is going to land us in court,” she said.

In fact, it already has.

In Michigan and Florida, rights groups are suing state officials, accusing them of being too aggressive in purging voter rolls and of preventing people from registering.

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The Ohio secretary of state, Jennifer Brunner, a Democrat, said in court papers that she believes the Republicans are seeking grounds to challenge voters and get them removed from the rolls.

Considering that in the past year the state received nearly 290,000 nonmatches, such a plan could have significant impact at the polls.

[earthfell]

After 2000 and 2004... not surprising.

[AladainAF]

yes, a republican win is always election stealing. A democrat win is always ok.

See: ACORN offices getting raided and/or investigated, and the sympathetic response in the main thread about "Oh its ok, cuz ACORN is the one that alerted the officials - SEE!". Never mind they are doing it in Michigan, Nevada, Indiana, Missouri. Need I continue?

Newsflash: If ACORN alerted the officials, THEY WOULDN'T NEED TO RAID THE FUCKING OFFICE.

I'm so sick and tired and disgusted seeing one side of the political isle getting a free-pass to spread THEIR corruption, while solely focusing on the other side.

Until americans wake the fuck up and open their fucking eyes that they are being ass-fucked by BOTH FUCKING PARTIES this bullshit is going to continue for years and years.

[Astrocreep]

It wasnt the republicans slashing tires of voter buses on election day in 2004 and it wasnt the republicans registering non-existent people by the tens of thousands. seriously, wtf on that shit, how can a company like that stay in business when they have completely shady business practice? let alone be arm in arm with Obama's campaign and it doesnt get widely reported? this whole thing stinks worse than Obama's campaign jet.

[chaos]

Are you 2 fucking retarded? They aren't talking about ACORN or any specific party, they are talking about state election authorities violating federal election laws, and how it impact new registrations for BOTH parties.

Seriously, did you 2 even read the goddamn article? The only reason it is suggested that it may impact the Democrats more is because Democrats have registered more voters this year. Any reason to rail against the man though, right? Goddamn liberals and their federal elections laws.

[GrobbeeTrull2.0]

Why in the Sweet Jesus are you two talking about a fixed election? No one except the Ohio Secretary of State suggested anything like that.

It's a travesty when ANYONE is denied the right to vote for ANY reason. Republican, Democrat, Communist, Libertarian, Green, Independent, whatever.

Shake off those partisan blinders and use your fucking heads for once.

[Warrian]

Originally Posted by GrobbeeTrull2.0

Shake off those partisan blinders and use your fucking heads for once.

lol posting that on THIS board is pure comedy

[Bizanich]

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

It wasnt the republicans slashing tires of voter buses on election day in 2004 and it wasnt the republicans registering non-existent people by the tens of thousands. seriously, wtf on that shit, how can a company like that stay in business when they have completely shady business practice? let alone be arm in arm with Obama's campaign and it doesnt get widely reported? this whole thing stinks worse than Obama's campaign jet.

Read the article before you post. It has been known to help in understanding and not appearing foolish.

As an aside, I'd like someone to explain how registering a non-existent person can sway an election when that person fails to show up and actually, you know, vote. I know it sure as hell won't be Astro who explains this, but if someone could, I'd appreciate it.

[AladainAF]

Originally Posted by Bizanich

Read the article before you post. It has been known to help in understanding and not appearing foolish.

As an aside, I'd like someone to explain how registering a non-existent person can sway an election when that person fails to show up and actually, you know, vote. I know it sure as hell won't be Astro who explains this, but if someone could, I'd appreciate it.

Just see the magical ballots that appeared in King County during the 2004 washington governors election.

[Bizanich]

Originally Posted by AladainAF

Just see the magical ballots that appeared in King County during the 2004 washington governors election.

So you're ignoring the fact that people were incented to register people and that it was their greed?

Or have you also done the research and found out how the non-existent people could have voted?

If so, can you enlighten me?

I am dead fucking serious, if you know how to turn the actions of those greedy people looking for incentive money into actual fraud on election day, I want to know.

Otherwise, it looks like the rants of the illiterate.

[Felith1]

This is fucking ridiculous, regardless of party.

These sort of actions will kill Democracy if they aren't dealt with.

[Bizanich]

Originally Posted by Felith1

This is fucking ridiculous, regardless of party.

These sort of actions will kill Democracy if they aren't dealt with.

Nah, the 24 hour "news" stations will kill it long before lazy bureaucrats do who saw an easy, quick way to do their job (exploiting the incomplete Social Security Administration database) instead of doing their job correctly.

I wish I was joking .

[Lenaldo]

Originally Posted by Bizanich

Read the article before you post. It has been known to help in understanding and not appearing foolish.

As an aside, I'd like someone to explain how registering a non-existent person can sway an election when that person fails to show up and actually, you know, vote. I know it sure as hell won't be Astro who explains this, but if someone could, I'd appreciate it.

Absentee ballots from what i have been told.

[Bizanich]

Originally Posted by Lenaldo

Absentee ballots from what i have been told.

That's the only thing I could figure as well.

So have they tracked down the shitloads of absentee ballots, yet?

[Suineg]

Also something about 'challenging' a voter that isn't there. Too lazy to look it up.