McCain/Palin v. Obama/Biden

[I'm Rich Bitch]

The Republican's chickens are coming home to roost. Once this hurricane is over the country will start to focus on the Republican's new trailer trash family.

[Mippo]

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

JFK was the last senator turned president we had and his father had to rig the election for that to happen. It doesnt happen often becuase Senators dont make good leaders. thats why i wanted someone like Romney over McLame. shit, i was hoping for Haley Barbor to run for pres cuz he kicked ass during the Katrina aftermath. I even would have loved a Jeb Bush bid over McLame. at least Mccain has a stronger ticket for having a real leader and a female as a VP over 2 senators.

Haven't we had enough of the Bush family? What exactly did Jeb Bush do for Florida that would make him a good presidential candidate but I guess qualifications have never really mattered for the Bush family anyway.

[Frax]

Originally Posted by MrGraham

So the office of VP is the same as any other job? Maybe Obama should go pick up a second graduate degree while he's in office, I'm sure that would fly.

Originally Posted by Sunder

Palin doesn't even know what the VP does. I'm sure she'll have plenty of time to do anything she wants. You can't honestly expect her to do anything important since she is so ignorant of the tasks involved.

You people are insufferable cock munchers. She would probably still do a better job at being VP if she had Downs than you two monkeys would.

[Astrocreep]

Originally Posted by Mippo

Haven't we had enough of the Bush family? What exactly did Jeb Bush do for Florida that would make him a good presidential candidate but I guess qualifications have never really mattered for the Bush family anyway.

Jeb Bush is not GW Bush, he is a much more serious person and kept a very orderly state, when a hurricane came to town he had everyone properly evacuated.
Jeb Bush - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Sunder]

Originally Posted by Frax

You people are insufferable cock munchers. She would probably still do a better job at being VP if she had Downs than you two monkeys would.

Irony. Sweet, sweet irony. Your retardation is catching up to you. But please, keep sucking that McBush cock. I'm sure you'll like it.

[MrSpitz]

More along the lines how, which health care proposal by either camp seeks to extend coverage or enable coverage for working families while simultaneously limiting reimbursements or promoting preventive treatments to limit costs?

I mean has either Obama or McCain even once said they wanted to find a way to lower costs other than cutting payments to doctors? Structuring the system so that problems are taken care of before they escalate (such as early signs of kidney problems)? Limiting which drugs are covered by the govt. backed plans so people who want more choice can have it but only if they can afford it? Addressing the fact that certain diseases, such as cancer, receive an astronomical amount of money for treatment? At what point does society limit how much to spend on a drug that costs 6-figures a year if it only prolongs life a short while? Is it worth it at 2 months? Will anyone even have the balls to address this?

There's one, I'd say drilling but its been beaten to death.


How about Iraq. Things are improving there. Do we get out as fast as we can and let whatever may be may be?


Or

[I'm Rich Bitch]

No one knows if this picture is real yet.

[Astrocreep]

Yeah everyone has a a tiny head perched upon 10 inch long neck

[Sunder]

Originally Posted by MrSpitz

Will anyone even have the balls to address this?

If you are expecting either side to make definitive, concrete plans on how to approach the problems facing this nation during an election season, I'm afraid you are in the wrong country. Neither side is willing to state with any granularity any of their so-called "solutions" because every solution has its own problems. No solution is perfect. Better to be vague than get pinned down with specifics that your opponent can rip apart. That is the way of American politics.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

The Palin family puts a new meaning to laying pipe in Alaska. Someone needs to tell them that "drilling" meant oil not pussy.

[kedwyn]

Must have been a good choice to get the liberals riled up like this.

10 pages ago it was a collective Obama circle jerk about how its going to be a landslide. Now we have them talking about the only way a republican can win is to go after character while doing the exact same thing on the other side of their mouth.

Threads like this are proof enough of why our political system is total shit. There is no reason to change because people still march to the same drum regardless of what is being said.

If it was the democrats VP the republicans would be saying the same shit as the libs right now and vice versa. Tearing down someone is so much easier than talking about how to fix the actual issues, something neither party has any interest in doing because the country in general lacks the testicular fortitude to deal with what has to be done.

Status quo all the way baby!

[Digits]

Originally Posted by MrGraham

Let's talk about the issues.

Obama doesn't have experience to lead the nation because he's only been in the Senate for a few years and only a state senator for that. Convince me that Palin can do it better than him.

R: Obama doesn't have the experience to lead the nation.
D: But ... uh ... you just chose someone with even less experience to be the backup for a 72 year old President.
R: She has been an executive decision maker for a city and now a state, AND she lives closer to Russia than the rest of the US so she has foreign policy experience!
D: Oh come on, she's just a publicity stunt to get voters.
R: Yeah, just like your president choice is!

You just can't argue with that logic. Because Obama is inexperienced (in your eyes) that makes it OK for her to be? That's like -

R: Obama is elitist and out of touch!
D: McCain is even more rich and can't remember how many houses he has.
R: WTF Obama lives in a mansion so how can you even make that argument??
D: But ... you just said ... oh, never mind.

K, you're begging for someone to point out how much of an idiot you are so I'll be happy to oblige.

Obama became president of the Harvard Law Review in 1990. He has studied politics, world events, and the law for the past 25 years. He has, at every opportunity, proven himself to be a cunning intellectual capable of deciphering the greatest issues of our times. Case in point, calling the Iraq War as a fundamentally flawed action that would only increase the strength of terrorists. He was right, and he was right in 2002 before we even went to fucking war. His energy plan is a thing of brilliance, simultaneously providing 4 billion dollars to the automotive industry to shift towards hybrid cars while also funneling billions more to the renewable energies such as solar and wind. Is there a better way to remove our dependence on foreign oil? Absolutely not, and McCain is only standing in Obama's way because he feels that 'Drill here, drill now' is better than 'Research other sources of energy, and drill never again and save both our planet and our country'.

McCain wanted to invade Iraq the months following 9/11 without any proof. McCain sings songs about bombing Iran. McCain supports exporting cigarretes to Iran in order to kill their citizen. McCain has never seen a country he didn't want to finger fuck with a few bombs and a couple 100 year occupations.

Palin figured out a way to run a town of 4000, mostly consisting of trailers owned by people too stupid to attach wheels to their home, into 20 million dollars worth of debt by building a 15 million dollar sports complex while at the same time cutting funding off to a museum, removing vital taxes to support her town while increasing the sales tax. The sales tax increase, by the way, drove away business and left the town in financial ruin. Oh, are you guys wondering where she got the land rights to build that complex? You should be, because she attempted to steal it from a private owner via Emminent Domain. The guy took her to court, and the judge told her to get bent and now the town has to pay 10 times the original amount for the land. This wouldn't be too much of an issue if it weren't for the fact she didn't understand one of the basic great powers of the government, whereas Obama studied such laws for decades. This incident showcases how vastly more experienced Obama is than Palin.

Fiscal retardation and foreign war mongering. Yup, this is the ticket to vote for you if you couldn't get enough Bush and Cheney.

And as for the elistist bullshit? The Obamas were paying off student loans as of a few years ago, and they purchased their million dollar home after Barack authored two best selling books. He took a 19k job right out of law school as a community organizer in Chicago because he wanted to make a difference. Obama rallied the community behind the liberal movement, and his sincerity and passion to help out the lower and middle class (and subsequently aim to create economic equality between blacks and whites) has catapulted him to be the presidential nominee.

McCain came back from the war, ditched his disfigured wife and married a millionaire cheerleader and had her daddy payroll his Congressional campaign. He doesn't know how many houses he owns. He thinks Obama is middle class because the guy is only worth 4 million dollars. McCain has been in Washington for the past 26 years. He was the only Republican involved with the Keating Five scandal, one of the worst congressional scandals in the past 20 years. He only has the reputation as a maverick because afterwards he restructured his shattered image to take ideological stances against his own party. Obviously he doesn't actually believe any of it, because he is violating his own campaign finance reforms by abusing the public financing system (he was for it, before he was against it). He supports another half century of dependence on foreign oil by refusing to provide funding to match Obama's support for renewal energy.

Please commence bitching about how all we talk about are the issues....now!

[Mippo]

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

Jeb Bush is not GW Bush, he is a much more serious person and kept a very orderly state, when a hurricane came to town he had everyone properly evacuated.
Jeb Bush - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Florida has been doing proper evacuations long before Jeb Bush became governor. That's kind of what happens when your state gets hit by a hurricane seemingly every single year. Performing proper hurricane evacuations is pretty much expected of a leader. It's kind of like riding a Segway, it's only sensational when someone actually manages to screw it up.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

Originally Posted by kedwyn

Must have been a good choice to get the liberals riled up like this.

10 pages ago it was a collective Obama circle jerk about how its going to be a landslide. Now we have them talking about the only way a republican can win is to go after character while doing the exact same thing on the other side of their mouth.

Threads like this are proof enough of why our political system is total shit. There is no reason to change because people still march to the same drum regardless of what is being said.

If it was the democrats VP the republicans would be saying the same shit as the libs right now and vice versa. Tearing down someone is so much easier than talking about how to fix the actual issues, something neither party has any interest in doing because the country in general lacks the testicular fortitude to deal with what has to be done.

Status quo all the way baby!

The Republicans, namely Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity created this situation. Now they will have to live with it. I agree it is stupid but so are most of the American people.

[Mippo]

In other news, Japan's prime minister resigned today stating low approval ratings (29%) and a weakening economy....

Bush overheard calling him a quitter.