McCain/Palin v. Obama/Biden - Page 485

Smocca · 09-26-2008, 09:57 PM

There's one that has added detail on the side but I didn't see it.

Arakkis · 09-26-2008, 09:59 PM

+1 for you sah, thanks

ChewieTobbacca · 09-26-2008, 09:59 PM

So 3 polls have shown independents now leaning Obama. That is not good for McCain, considering Republicans are already outnumbered in voter registration in the US

Zhaun's_Shade · 09-26-2008, 10:01 PM

Anyone else catch McCain say he was an Independant? Maybe his Jewish boyfriend is rubbing off on him.

(errr... ew)

Soriak · 09-26-2008, 10:01 PM

There's also a graph that does it by income quintile:

Best illustrates the bottom-up vs top-down approach.

McCain gives the biggest cut (as a percentage) to the wealthiest, whereas Obama gives the biggest cut to the poorest.

Lenaldo · 09-26-2008, 10:02 PM

What a pointless fucking debate. Neither candidate had the balls to actually talk about any real policy change. Both of them did hand-waving changes "LOL ILL CUT SPENDING I SWEAR!!"... Fuck that.

Obama crushed McCain on the economy.. Especially the tax cuts and health insurance. DUH, did anyone not expect this to happen?

McCain crushed obama on foreign policy... Honestly, mccain kept saying "you dont understand" which was fucking annoying.. but he had a point. McCain definitely has more foreign policy experience and it showed.

Obama's rhetoric was much more refined and professional sounding. Duh.

McCain was much better at "name-dropping" and demonstating that he had been involved in a lot of issues. Duh. We all know mccain has way more experience than obama.

Again, what a pointless fucking debate. I learned nothing new today than I did yesterday. More so, I am not surprised at the poll results. American's typically respond much better to rhetoric than anything else.

McCain really failed at nailing obama to the "you talk the talk but fail to walk the walk" point and I think it allowed obama to run away with this debate. Obama was able to talk about what he is going to do with no historic proof that he will actually do those things.

For me personally both candidates sucked ass.

I am still leaning towards obama because I think the economy is the most important issue right now. Personally I feel foreign policy experience is just that.. experience and something that can be learned. McCain and I have a pretty big difference in opinion on the economy and im not sure that will change(at least while he has dumb-ass economic advisors).

However, 4 years ago I would have voted for McCain.

Malakriss · 09-26-2008, 10:07 PM

Yet another Tax cut graph diagram:

Smocca · 09-26-2008, 10:08 PM

Lol I knew this was coming but you really have to hand it to them for their quickness:

Nebuchadnezzar · 09-26-2008, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zhaun's_Shade

Anyone else catch McCain say he was an Independant? Maybe his Jewish boyfriend is rubbing off on him.

(errr... ew)

That line actually really pissed off Independent voters on the CNN trendline thing, was really a "you're not like me" moment.

Yutnopash · 09-26-2008, 10:15 PM

Other than the, " You were wrong" part. One part I really liked was using that Most Liberal Senator line...that it just means you disagree with W.

I'm Rich Bitch · 09-26-2008, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smocca

Watching the commentary on various channels, the one that I see being replayed and talked about the most is Obama saying to McCain, "You were wrong" over and over again on various Iraq War issues. The camera pans out and you see Obama looking directly at McCain, taking him to task, and McCain is looking away trying to smirk it off.

That to me is what is gonna be the lasting win from this debate. That plays so damn well for Obama.

McCain did that to Romney also. McCain knows he is lying but has a harder time doing it when he is so close to the opponent and the opponent is there to dispute the lies. Therefore he can not stand to look at him. The McCain of 2008 is much different than the McCain of 2000.

chaos · 09-26-2008, 10:18 PM

That ad is pretty faggy. I can't imagine that sort of thing appealing to independents.

I'm Rich Bitch · 09-26-2008, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChewieTobbacca

So 3 polls have shown independents now leaning Obama. That is not good for McCain, considering Republicans are already outnumbered in voter registration in the US

McCain needed a game changer. He tried to guarantee one with his little stunt but it did not work. Only the McCain people were fooled by that nonsense. McCain was on his home turf did well but did not crush Obama.

Zhaun's_Shade · 09-26-2008, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smocca

Lol I knew this was coming but you really have to hand it to them for their quickness:

Wait... Obama isn't ready to lead because he agrees with McCain's policies?

wat?

I'm Rich Bitch · 09-26-2008, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zhaun's_Shade

Anyone else catch McCain say he was an Independant? Maybe his Jewish boyfriend is rubbing off on him.

(errr... ew)

McCain never mentions that he is a Republican...ever. Never have. Never will. That is why I can not understand Republicans supporting him. He bashes Bush more than Obama does. McCain even compared Obama to Bush. Did you catch that?

View Poll Results: Who do you think will win the 2008 Presidential Election?
McCain/Palin	583	33.18%
Obama/Biden	1,131	64.37%
Other	43	2.45%
Voters: 1757. You may not vote on this poll

09-26-2008, 09:57 PM	#7261 (permalink)
Smocca Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 874 +25 Internets	There's one that has added detail on the side but I didn't see it. Attached Images __________________ Wii Code: 4250 4436 6536 6872

09-26-2008, 10:02 PM	#7266 (permalink)
Lenaldo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,442 -21 Internets	What a pointless fucking debate. Neither candidate had the balls to actually talk about any real policy change. Both of them did hand-waving changes "LOL ILL CUT SPENDING I SWEAR!!"... Fuck that. Obama crushed McCain on the economy.. Especially the tax cuts and health insurance. DUH, did anyone not expect this to happen? McCain crushed obama on foreign policy... Honestly, mccain kept saying "you dont understand" which was fucking annoying.. but he had a point. McCain definitely has more foreign policy experience and it showed. Obama's rhetoric was much more refined and professional sounding. Duh. McCain was much better at "name-dropping" and demonstating that he had been involved in a lot of issues. Duh. We all know mccain has way more experience than obama. Again, what a pointless fucking debate. I learned nothing new today than I did yesterday. More so, I am not surprised at the poll results. American's typically respond much better to rhetoric than anything else. McCain really failed at nailing obama to the "you talk the talk but fail to walk the walk" point and I think it allowed obama to run away with this debate. Obama was able to talk about what he is going to do with no historic proof that he will actually do those things. For me personally both candidates sucked ass. I am still leaning towards obama because I think the economy is the most important issue right now. Personally I feel foreign policy experience is just that.. experience and something that can be learned. McCain and I have a pretty big difference in opinion on the economy and im not sure that will change(at least while he has dumb-ass economic advisors). However, 4 years ago I would have voted for McCain. Last edited by Lenaldo; 09-26-2008 at 10:07 PM..

09-26-2008, 10:07 PM	#7267 (permalink)
Malakriss GOMTV Contest Winner Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,845	Yet another Tax cut graph diagram: Attached Images

09-26-2008, 10:08 PM	#7268 (permalink)
Smocca Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 874 +25 Internets	Lol I knew this was coming but you really have to hand it to them for their quickness: __________________ Wii Code: 4250 4436 6536 6872

09-26-2008, 09:59 PM	#7263 (permalink)
ChewieTobbacca Spawn more Overlords Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,304	So 3 polls have shown independents now leaning Obama. That is not good for McCain, considering Republicans are already outnumbered in voter registration in the US

09-26-2008, 10:01 PM	#7264 (permalink)
Zhaun's_Shade Death Panel Supporter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 2,634 -7 Internets	Anyone else catch McCain say he was an Independant? Maybe his Jewish boyfriend is rubbing off on him. (errr... ew)

09-26-2008, 10:01 PM	#7265 (permalink)
Soriak Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 5,835 +54 Internets	There's also a graph that does it by income quintile: Best illustrates the bottom-up vs top-down approach. McCain gives the biggest cut (as a percentage) to the wealthiest, whereas Obama gives the biggest cut to the poorest.

09-26-2008, 10:15 PM	#7270 (permalink)
Yutnopash The Mexicant Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,147 +10 Internets	Other than the, " You were wrong" part. One part I really liked was using that Most Liberal Senator line...that it just means you disagree with W.

09-26-2008, 10:18 PM	#7272 (permalink)
chaos Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NoVa Posts: 7,162 +29 Internets	That ad is pretty faggy. I can't imagine that sort of thing appealing to independents.

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