McCain/Palin v. Obama/Biden

[Frax]

Originally Posted by Mageling

So what parts of WaMu are being bought/siezed?

I only ask this, as I bank with them currently.

Under the deal, which was shepherded by federal banking regulators, JPMorgan Chase will acquire all the banking operations of the Seattle-based WaMu, as well as its assets and financial contracts.

JPMorgan to buy WaMu - Sep. 25, 2008

[Mippo]

Jon Stewart for President He is tearing up McCain right now.

[MrSpitz]

Anyone think the Dems would pass the modified Bush-Paulson plan without Republican support, despite what Pelosi is saying?

[Designz]

Originally Posted by TheMarauder

Scenario: McCain absolutely flops at this point. Doesn't even show up to the debate tomorrow. Fumbles on economy talk, all while Palin breaks out into tears after VP debates where Biden burns a cigar into a still-born baby's back. Obama's lead in the polls grows into considerable proportions and many news outlets even begin to talk as if he has already won the race.

October 26th, Obama assassinated by right-wing radical shooter. Democrats have no chance. Biden steps in as head role in ticket but it is all for nothing. Could choose Clinton as VP, with no results. McCain wins election with nearly 60% of votes.

God is dead.

This post is truth!

[Heavens_Myst]

Originally Posted by MrSpitz

Anyone think the Dems would pass the modified Bush-Paulson plan without Republican support, despite what Pelosi is saying?

The Dems don't have the backbone to do what they think is right if it will cost them votes. They've had Congress for 2 years and failed to do anything meaningful, this is their chance to show if they will deliver on what they say. I think the Republicans should make them pass this shit stark naked.

also: I don't think the plan is for McCain to save this vote. I think that he and the president set up Reid and Pelosi, they have to pass this bill because they have complete control of both houses. McCain can then step in and absolutely ream them for 6 weeks about how awful it is when a huge majority of Americans think this bailout is intolerable.

[Frax]

Either that or the Obama kenyan birth certificate makes an appearance!

/crazytinfoilhat

[Araex]

I have nothing to contribute and just want to say I can't believe republicans are being a bunch of little bitches while watching WaMu goes down hard. (I'm bitter 'cause I was holding onto WaMu stock and betting on it to survive. Live and learn.)

[Arbitrary]

Good time to implement some term limitations on Congress. Maybe they'll be able to do what they actually think is best instead of trying to stay on the gravey train for as long as humanly possible.

[chaos]

I don't think the Dems will pass it, certainly not tomorrow. I think that was pretty bold of McCain to come down to Washington and shit on everyone's party. The Dems are trying to frame it as Bush's plan. If they are successful, I think that puts McCain is a position that he does not want to be in.

[Sharmai]

McCain can't skip the debate tomorrow. Bitch as he must if he skips it no kind of spin is going to equal the amount of free 1on1 press coverage Obama is going to get with the world tomorrow night.

He won't send Palin because that would be a disaster. If he sends some random aide they will probably get denied since they aren't running for any office.

Its either McCain or nothing. Obama can play up the president needs to be able to multi-task angle all night and McCain will be doing nothing but running the defensive on that for the next week at least.

Then hes going to have to do it again for the VP debate and try and spin the bill as a positive angle when its obvious he's doing nothing to help it along.

[whatsamattau]

Originally Posted by Sharmai

McCain can't skip the debate tomorrow. Bitch as he must if he skips it no kind of spin is going to equal the amount of free 1on1 press coverage Obama is going to get with the world tomorrow night.

Bingo. That is exactly why this was a political ploy from the very beginning.

[chaos]

But why would he put on this whole big performance when no matter what it ends with him looking like an ineffective leader?

[whatsamattau]

Originally Posted by chaos

But why would he put on this whole big performance when no matter what it ends with him looking like an ineffective leader?

I'd claim that it was his calculation that the gimmick would make him look like a man confronting the crisis head on. It was a Hail Mary, after all. Not likely to work, but in truth necessary that it did work, because his campaign was floundering bad.

[Araxen]

The media has been blaming the house republicans all night for not getting the bail out done, so it's all on their heads right now that this thing has failed to come to fruitation. The Dems will not pass this w/o the republicans on board. What the house republicans want is shear lunacy...less regulation and no capital gains tax for 2 years? lol please...fool me once shame on me, fool me tiwce...na-uh these idiots aren't going to fool us again.

[whatsamattau]

The capital gains shit is pure gold, by the way. Let's encourage people to remove their assets from Wall Street by removing the only real penalty inherent in doing so.