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View Poll Results: Who do you think will win the 2008 Presidential Election?
McCain/Palin 583 33.18%
Obama/Biden 1,131 64.37%
Other 43 2.45%
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Old 09-13-2008, 05:50 PM   #5161 (permalink)
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Old 09-13-2008, 05:54 PM   #5162 (permalink)
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So we can tie McCain to every thing any person calling themselves a Republican says?

Cool.

Stop trying to rationalize what you KNOW is wrong.
No but when he puts out ads that are lies with "I'm Wrinkled old white Dude and I approve this message" at the end those are certainly fair game.
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Old 09-13-2008, 06:02 PM   #5163 (permalink)
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How do they get away with that? Do they have like HUGE sales tax or something? I'd like a nice 20% raise by moving out there!
I live in Washington state and my parents live in California. They want to buy a second home up here so they can claim WA residence. I think they said that the mortgage on a new house would be cheaper than the CA state tax they currently pay. Not sure how exactly that works out legally, but an interesting concept.
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Old 09-13-2008, 06:03 PM   #5164 (permalink)
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I'm surprised Obama has not highlighted more of those concerns circa Friday's sound bites.
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Old 09-13-2008, 06:11 PM   #5165 (permalink)
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I really want to know why some Republicans are supporting Palin. She seems like a cheerleader out of college who took a semester of foreign policy and international politics.

What is so great about her anyway? I'm confused.

Her ABC interview was awful.
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Old 09-13-2008, 06:23 PM   #5166 (permalink)
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I really want to know why some Republicans are supporting Palin. She seems like a cheerleader out of college who took a semester of foreign policy and international politics.

What is so great about her anyway? I'm confused.

Her ABC interview was awful.
The funny part of that interview is when she's referring to Israel, it sounded like she just memorized a line handed to her by Karl Rove and didn't know anything else but to repeat it.
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Old 09-13-2008, 07:08 PM   #5168 (permalink)
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Old 09-13-2008, 07:09 PM   #5169 (permalink)
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I really want to know why some Republicans are supporting Palin. She seems like a cheerleader out of college who took a semester of foreign policy and international politics.

What is so great about her anyway? I'm confused.

Her ABC interview was awful.
Dude, she is a pretty, young (ish), social conservative. It's not that hard to grasp.
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Old 09-13-2008, 07:53 PM   #5170 (permalink)
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Old 09-13-2008, 08:20 PM   #5171 (permalink)
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Well, the NYTimes is taking a shot. I doubt anything will stick. Hell, it may even hurt things given the NYTimes status as a crooked liberal fascists publication.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us...4palin.html?hp

Spoilered some excerpts here for the lazy.

Hiding emails, dodging subpoenas, distorting and covering up undesired results of a scientific study:

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Interviews show that Ms. Palin runs an administration that puts a premium on loyalty and secrecy. The governor and her top officials sometimes use personal e-mail accounts for state business; dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records.

Rick Steiner, a University of Alaska professor, sought the e-mail messages of state scientists who had examined the effect of global warming on polar bears. (Ms. Palin said the scientists had found no ill effects, and she has sued the federal government to block the listing of the bears as endangered.) An administration official told Mr. Steiner that his request would cost $468,784 to process.

When Mr. Steiner finally obtained the e-mail messages — through a federal records request — he discovered that state scientists had in fact agreed that the bears were in danger, records show.

“Their secrecy is off the charts,” Mr. Steiner said.

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While Ms. Palin took office promising a more open government, her administration has battled to keep information secret. Her inner circle discussed the benefit of using private e-mail addresses. An assistant told her it appeared that such e-mail messages sent to a private address on a “personal device” like a BlackBerry “would be confidential and not subject to subpoena.”


How and who she governs with:

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Not deeply versed in policy, Ms. Palin skipped some candidate forums; at others, she flipped through hand-written, color-coded index cards strategically placed behind her nameplate. (lulz, familiar?)

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Half a century after Alaska became a state, Ms. Palin was inaugurated as governor in Fairbanks and took up the reformer’s sword.

As she assembled her cabinet and made other state appointments, those with insider credentials were now on the outs. But a new pattern became clear. She surrounded herself with people she has known since grade school and members of her church.

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Many lawmakers contend that Ms. Palin is overly reliant on a small inner circle that leaves her isolated. Democrats and Republicans alike describe her as often missing in action. Since taking office in 2007, Ms. Palin has spent 312 nights at her Wasilla home, some 600 miles to the north of the governor’s mansion in Juneau, records show.

During the last legislative session, some lawmakers became so frustrated with her absences that they took to wearing “Where’s Sarah?” pins.

Many politicians say they typically learn of her initiatives — and vetoes — from news releases.

Mayors across the state, from the larger cities to tiny municipalities along the southeastern fiords, are even more frustrated. Often, their letters go unanswered and their pleas ignored, records and interviews show.


Doubt any of this effects people who strongly support her, but its interesting nonetheless.
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Old 09-13-2008, 08:28 PM   #5172 (permalink)
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Psshhh, that shit is so fucking sexist.
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Old 09-13-2008, 08:29 PM   #5173 (permalink)
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Smocca, I can't believe you would attack a mother of five from a small town.
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Old 09-13-2008, 08:46 PM   #5174 (permalink)
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Old 09-13-2008, 09:15 PM   #5175 (permalink)
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Florida does make a lot of money from tourism.
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