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View Poll Results: Who do you think will win the 2008 Presidential Election?
McCain/Palin 583 33.18%
Obama/Biden 1,131 64.37%
Other 43 2.45%
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:25 PM   #4846 (permalink)
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You're screwed then. Because what it's actually done is mobilize even more of Hillary Clinton's fence-sitters onto Palin's defense. This is after an unprecedented 15% lead on likely women voters swinging for McCain.
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:26 PM   #4847 (permalink)
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cankering sore of Kennedy-Khruschev pact on Cuba.
Are you fucking kidding me?

You do understand we were a cunt hair away from total fucking annihilation? You do understand the Curtis fucking Lemay was SCREAMING invade Cuba, AND that if we had, the Russians were going to launch nukes.

You sit here today because John F Kennedy was President. If Nixon had won, we wouldnt be here discussing this.

And in what way was the Korean Armistance a disaster? Should Truman have released to MacArthur the 35 Nuclear warheads he asked for to clear out the Chinese forces north of the Yalu river? That was a good peace, unless you are bummed out we didnt have a full scale war against the Chinese.

And Vietnam? Vietnam was mess for BOTH Republicans and Democrats. We left because we lost. The South Vietnamese didnt want to fight any more, and the people supported Ho Chi Minh more than they supported the corrupt Government, that was ONLY in power because we were propping it up.

Nixon did good with the Chinese, even it was for his legacy, and Reagan did some good work managing the fall of the Soviet Union.
But give me a break with Bush. We didnt do a damn thing to get Libya. HE reached out to us. And we celebrate this fucker as our "Friend" even though he gives weapons to the genocidal Sudanese government to this very day.

And even attempting to say we have had anything even remotely resembling success with North Korea is a joke.
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:26 PM   #4848 (permalink)
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Already posted, but listening to Palin try to bullshit her way through the Bush Doctrine is fucking painful. I almost feel bad for her. McCain picked a goddamn idiot. Ouch...

Partisan spin aside. There is no way any thinking person could watch this Palin interview and believe she is in any way qualified to be VP or President. Even if you are a McCain supporter you have to be apprehensive that the old coot will croak and Norma Rae the hockey mom becomes our Commander and Chief. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen.
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:33 PM   #4849 (permalink)
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Partisan spin aside. There is no way any thinking person could watch this Palin interview and believe she is in any way qualified to be VP or President. Even if you are a McCain supporter you have to be apprehensive that the old coot will croak and Norma Rae the hockey mom becomes our Commander and Chief. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen.
Partisan spin aside you haven't explained how you could think THIS GUY, who has failed to explain ANY of his positions with anything other than empty bullshit and plagiarized speeches has is remotely qualified to run anything more complex than a fund founded by a supporter of Palestinian Terror:



I mean shit, the guy is even LESS than an empty suit whenever his teleprompter breaks down:
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:35 PM   #4850 (permalink)
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At least she didn't keep trying to grab Charlie's package like Obama kept copping a feel of O'Reilly's knees. What the hell was up with that grabbing his knee shit. You could see O'Reilly started folding in and shrinking away by the time he had forced Obama to LIE ON NATIONAL TV then laughed at his face:
What was his lie? I thought the comparison of O'Reilly being on Fox news means he supports what everyone on the network says is a good defense.

As for the knee touch, I bet it was a strategy to calm or scare O'Reilly so he'd shut up and let Obama talk.
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:38 PM   #4851 (permalink)
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Khorum we get it, trying to scare us out of voting for Obama like Fox News. Typical neoconservative spin... it got old a few threads ago.
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:39 PM   #4852 (permalink)
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What was his lie? I thought the comparison of O'Reilly being on Fox news means he supports what everyone on the network says is a good defense.

As for the knee touch, I bet it was a strategy to calm or scare O'Reilly so he'd shut up and let Obama talk.
Starts at 6:12. Obama is cornered after his attempt at false equivalency by saying that he has THOUSANDS of friends. I don't have thousands of friends, but I do have a couple saudi wahhabbists who abhor terrorism and they'd never tolerate people like Rezko, Ayers or Wright. O'Reilly pushes Obama and pushes Obama and finally what does Obama do?

He LIES ON NATIONAL TELEVISION and claims that he has friends on the FAR RIGHT. O'Reilly pounces and asks him to provide names. Obama blushes and blabbers and O'Reilly just laughs to his face.

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Khorum we get it, trying to scare us out of voting for Obama like Fox News. Typical neoconservative spin... it got old a few threads ago.
Oh why don't you UNSCARE us then. Give us an enumeration of those Obama Accomplishments that have soooooo convinced you that he is more than the shallow, lying, corrupt opportunist he has PROVEN HIMSELF TO BE for 17 years in a city that is legendary for shallow, lying and corrupt opportunists.

You're gonna mention his mad harvard lawyerin skills aren't you? I ask you for empirical evidence of the man's INTEGRITY and you people prop up is credentials as a friggin LAWYER?!?

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I am posting 1 clip out of thousands of hours that will make Obama look bad.
I think posting the same 2 clips over 20 times should be a cause for banning. You are showing 1 clip out of thousands of hours of footage over the course of 2 years. Everyone is human and can have a bad moment. You should know. Your entire life is a bad moment.
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:41 PM   #4854 (permalink)
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I mean shit, the guy is even LESS than an empty suit whenever his teleprompter breaks down:
People aren't perfect. You can't expect Obama to make perfect speeches every freaking day. Everyone has good and bad days. Obama isn't a God.

The problem is that you only focus on the bad and are oblivious to all the other times Obama did well without a teleprompter. At least Obama knows what the heck he's talking about most the time, McCain and friends just seem to wing it and say whatever thought arises first. I'd rather have a president who stuttered than one who just talks without thinking and spews BS all day.
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:41 PM   #4855 (permalink)
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Biden is going to eat her ass for breakfast come debate time.
Can he really do that though? I'm sure Biden is more than capable of adding several new anuses through which to fuck her, but with how well their campaign of sexism/media bias/unfair treatment is working (lord knows how or why, but it seems to be) is that really in his best interests?
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I think Biden should go for it and not hold back. They McCain campaign already blew their sexism load.
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Starts at 6:12. Obama is cornered after his attempt at false equivalency by saying that he has THOUSANDS of friends. I don't have thousands of friends, but I do have a couple saudi wahhabbists who abhor terrorism and they'd never tolerate people like Rezko, Ayers or Wright. O'Reilly pushes Obama and pushes Obama and finally what does Obama do?

He LIES ON NATIONAL TELEVISION and claims that he has friends on the FAR RIGHT. O'Reilly pounces and asks him to provide names. Obama blushes and blabbers and O'Reilly just laughs to his face.


Oh why don't you UNSCARE us then. Give us an enumeration of those Obama Accomplishments that have soooooo convinced you that he is more than the shallow, lying, corrupt opportunist he has PROVEN HIMSELF TO BE for 17 years in a city that is legendary for shallow, lying and corrupt opportunists.

You're gonna mention his mad harvard lawyerin skills aren't you? I ask you for empirical evidence of the man's INTEGRITY and you people prop up is credentials as a friggin LAWYER?!?
Are you serious? You don't know Obama is lying, lol. He probably doesn't remember his far right friends' names, or they aren't well known enough for him to say. I'm sure a lot of people have far left or right friends.

You are being ridiculous here. I'm sure there have been situations that you know something but don't know the specific details, ie. "I'm sure I left my wallet in the room.... but don't know where it is."
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Can he really do that though? I'm sure Biden is more than capable of adding several new anuses through which to fuck her, but with how well their campaign of sexism/media bias/unfair treatment is working (lord knows how or why, but it seems to be) is that really in his best interests?
He doesn't have to be mean, dismissive, or sexist toward Palin to dominate her. He just has to answer the questions in a straight forward manner and draw on his YEARS of domestic and foreign policy experience. It will be easy for him whereas if this interview of Plain is any indication of her intelligence, she will be quickly overwhelmed. You can only bullshit, stammer, and deflect your way through questions for so long... and up against someone with actual experience, the contrast will be quite stark as to who the better VP will be.
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the cankering sore of the Kennedy-Khruschev pact on Cuba.

This right here shows you are a complete and utter Republican Tool.

We were hours away from all out fucking nuclear war. The Cuban missle crisis showed that you don't need to be a general in the army to handle a national Crisis.

What Kennedy Khruschev accomplished was historic, they were able to appease the hard line political and military elements in both countries and at the same time averting all out Nuclear war.

If you want a history leason on the Cuban Missle Crisis, either read about it, or watch the movie 13 Days which is a pretty good representation of the struggles the administration went through during one of the biggest crisis the world has ever faced.
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