McCain/Palin v. Obama/Biden

[Lleauaric~EW]

Originally Posted by Heavens_Myst

Are you a fucking idiot? The first definition was that the doctrine allowed for military action against countries that harbored terrorist groups that attacked us on September 11, 2001. Later it was defined as anticipatory self-defense, the pretext for invading Iraq.

The two definitions are completely separate philosophies.

Bull
Shit.

What the fuck do you think the whole make believe meeting between Atta and Iraqi Intelligence was about? They intentionally blurred the distinction.

And the Bush Doctrine NEVER included the "Who attacked us on 9/11" part. It just said "Nations who harbor Terrorist groups will be considered Terrorists" Very generic and non specific as possible in order to give the maximum amount of latitude.

And you have to be mainlining the Kool Aid if you thought Palin wasn't trying to BS her way through that question. It was obvious. Im not saying it was a good question.. i could come up with 6 or 7 that would have had her alot better than that one.
It was a bullshit question from Gibson that was a softball to let her seperate herself from Bush. She SHOULD have been able to knock it out of the park. 2/10

[Manseed]

Originally Posted by Jedite

Im still waiting for McCain or Palin to go into the lions den like Obama and Hilary did. Democratic Lions den = Olbermann =)

Well, Hannity is Olbermann's counterpart. Though I did appreciate Obama's interview.

I don't really want to see any of them go on Hannity or Olbermann. I think they're both worthless figureheads who yell and harp on non issues.

[Screamfeeder]

Originally Posted by Khorum

...that no president should ever dismiss any strategic option in the pursuit of American interests.

An American Chief Executive cannot---and MUST NOT---dismiss any strategic option during office.

Well not ANY strategic option...

Originally Posted by Older Khorum Rant

So let me get this straight, unless we adopt a stance of blanket and unconditional appeasement of these every sandnigger coward who got some free munitions from their friendly Iranian revolutionary guard supplier we will keep getting more Planez in ur Buildingz.

So which is it? Can POTAS consider ---EVERY OPTION--- or can POTUS consider ---EVERY OPTION BUT TALKS(APPEASEMENT)---?


Or are you just moving the goal posts around to suit your position and playing the usual word-salad verbal kung-fu game you are usually up to?

[I'm Rich Bitch]

Originally Posted by Jedite

Im still waiting for McCain or Palin to go into the lions den like Obama and Hilary did. Democratic Lions den = Olbermann =)

I would be satisfied if Palin does an interview with O'Reilly. She will not. Her handlers will not allow it. Palin is unfit to be VP and certainly unfit to the President. It was like Charles Gibson was interviewing one of the housewives on my street. One of the dumber ones.

[Lleauaric~EW]

O'Reilly would totally use the Loofa/Falafel on her.

She better have her shit better for the VP debates than she had tonight. The more she talks the worse it'll get.

Biden was watching this interview with a pretty big smile Im willing to bet.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

Originally Posted by Manseed

Well, Hannity is Olbermann's counterpart. Though I did appreciate Obama's interview.

I don't really want to see any of them go on Hannity or Olbermann. I think they're both worthless figureheads who yell and harp on non issues.

First post where I agree with Manseed.

[gn0me]

If she can't handle softball Charlie Gibson questions, and her handlers refuse to put her on O'Reilly for fear of exposing the empty void between her ears, how the hell is she going to handle real issues with Russia, Iran, North Korea, China, etc? I mean, she absolutely FAILED at answering a very general question about the key foreign policy doctrine of the past 7 years. That's shocking to me and a little bit scary.

Biden is going to eat her ass for breakfast come debate time.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

As predicted, FOX News is criticizing Charlie Gibson and ABC News and not making any real mention of how awful Palin did on the interview. Their tactic is to attack the media and not discuss the substance of the interview. This tells me that they know she did a pitiful job.

[TheMarauder]

Originally Posted by Manseed

I don't really want to see any of them go on Hannity or Olbermann. I think they're both worthless figureheads who yell and harp on non issues.

Most Democrats want them to go on Olbermann because they want to fight fire with fire. At this point, they want to be like Republicans.

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by Screamfeeder

Well not ANY strategic option...



So which is it? Can POTAS consider ---EVERY OPTION--- or can POTUS consider ---EVERY OPTION BUT TALKS(APPEASEMENT)---?


Or are you just moving the goal posts around to suit your position and playing the usual word-salad verbal kung-fu game you are usually up to?

LOL Unconditional Appeasement was an "option", huh? Ooooh you sure got me, I accidentally swiped "Peace-in-our-time-Spinelessness" off the table as an option for an American president. Woe is me. What should I do?

There are lots differences between CONTAINMENT/ACCOMODATION which is the policy of tacit appeasement that liberals have been aping for decades, and the confrontational ENGAGEMENT doctrine of Goldwater, but they both encourage diplomacy.

Goldwater's "Peace through Strength" gave us Nixon's detente with the Chinese, Reagan's detente with Poland, then Russia, and now Bush's detente with Libya (which sees the normalization of relations that not even Bubba saw) and North Korea.

The democrat policy of Containment has yielded the disastrous armistice in Korea, Vietnam, and the cankering sore of the Kennedy-Khruschev pact on Cuba.

Reagan articulated the heart of Goldwater's philosophy when he made the keynote speech at Goldwater's nomination:

[Soriak]

The Charlie Gibson interview is obviously a clear sign of sexism and a liberal bias in the media.

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by gn0me

Biden is going to eat her ass for breakfast come debate time.

THIS Biden? You're too obstinate to see how Palin outmaneuvered every trap Gibson laid for her and yet you think THIS BIDEN will somehow evade that woman unscathed?


Biden thinks he can make the lame walk:

[Goliath]

"In what respect, Charlie?"

"Charlie"

"Charlie"

Condescending bitch.

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by Goliath

"In what respect, Charlie?"

"Charlie"

"Charlie"

Condescending bitch.

At least she didn't keep trying to grab Charlie's package like Obama kept copping a feel of O'Reilly's knees. What the hell was up with that grabbing his knee shit. You could see O'Reilly started folding in and shrinking away by the time he had forced Obama to LIE ON NATIONAL TV then laughed at his face:

[Kirby]

Alright, i just watched the full Palin speech. If that doesn't hurt her nothing will. It was hard to watch.