McCain/Palin v. Obama/Biden - Page 304

chaos · 09-10-2008, 07:11 PM

Gallup poll is fucking worthless. They seriously had a 14 point flip the other day.

I am still waiting to see this "Chicago Machine" in action. McCain is going negative and staying as far away from any discussion of issues as he can get, and I understand that everyone has to play their schill card, but the truth is that the Obama campaign has not been negative. In fact they have been so pointedly not negative, to the point that some supporters of Obama are angry at the lack of negativity. People who like to shit talk Obama's past especially like to point at the "Chicago Machine" and dirty Chicago politics, so when are we going to see some real smearing or underhanded tricks? Now would be the time, one would think.

Szlia · 09-10-2008, 07:15 PM

On top of that, these polls are meaningless considering how the president is elected. Some would even say that being behind on the popular vote is a good omen!

TheMarauder · 09-10-2008, 07:32 PM

Was this posted yet? I thought it was pretty funny.
Republicans steal 'discarded flags'.

Khorum · 09-10-2008, 07:34 PM

Those were the boy scouts.

Fucking boy scouts.

ChewieTobbacca · 09-10-2008, 07:34 PM

I've said it before - it comes down to electoral votes and Obama's likeliest way of winning now is holding onto Kerry's states + Iowa + Colorado + New Mexico or Nevada and he wins. Fortunately for Obama, he stil holds those states + the win in Congress if it comes to 269-269. Unfortunately for him, momentum is on McCain's side right now, and Obama looks clueless as to how to counter.

kegkilla · 09-10-2008, 07:43 PM

aHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

Sunder · 09-10-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kegkilla

aHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

Dammit... now I have to watch Daily Show tonight to see if this makes it on the show. Hate you, Keg.

Arbitrary · 09-10-2008, 07:53 PM

Bah, and keg pays off.

Fucker.

Malakriss · 09-10-2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunder

Dammit... now I have to watch Daily Show tonight to see if this makes it on the show. Hate you, Keg.

Sadly, I don't think there are any new Daily Shows for awhile, since they ran full convention coverages Mon-Fri in the past 2 weeks.

Edit: The site says they will be back Monday, September 15th

Badass · 09-10-2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chaos

Gallup poll is fucking worthless. They seriously had a 14 point flip the other day.

I am still waiting to see this "Chicago Machine" in action. McCain is going negative and staying as far away from any discussion of issues as he can get, and I understand that everyone has to play their schill card, but the truth is that the Obama campaign has not been negative. In fact they have been so pointedly not negative, to the point that some supporters of Obama are angry at the lack of negativity. People who like to shit talk Obama's past especially like to point at the "Chicago Machine" and dirty Chicago politics, so when are we going to see some real smearing or underhanded tricks? Now would be the time, one would think.

I would tend to agree with you here. The republicans have changed the way American politics work. Unfortunately, their "constant negative attack" strategy has proven very effective. Obama's strategy of being a gentlemen statesman who appeals to the "middle" simply will not work today in America. We are most assuredly dead smack in the middle of a culture war. The republicans started it and mastered it.

So what should the democrats do? Quite simply - call an idiot and idiot.

Paleontologists should be in ad's discussing how dinosaurs roamed the earth millions of years ago and explain how insane Sarah Palain, a creationist, must be to not believe in them...or think they all fit in Noah's Ark.

Maybe we should talk to some members of Alec Station, the group assigned the initial task of hunting down Osama Bin Laden and Ayman Al Zawihiri and ask them whether they think it was prudent that the Bush Administration shut them down because Bin Laden is not a high priority target any longer. That would be a good ad I think.

Maybe just an ad showing Bin Laden laughing at Bush and his neo-con cabal as he plots another attack against the United States. I mean if there is one thing we know for sure it is that the republicans are the masters of national security. That is why we are embroiled in two wars costing 10 billion a month and Bin Laden and AZ have still not been killed 7 years after they attacked the city of New York and the Pentagon. That is why North Korea detonated a nuclear weapon on George W. Bush's watch as president. That is why Bush is fanning the flames of a new cold war with Russia. That is why Bush and McCain are threatening World War III with Iran.

That is why the entire world is hoping that we are smart enough to rebound from this nightmare and vote for Obama.

Maybe even a new version of this old ad with a caption like: Can we entrust our children's future to President Palin?

Tolanin · 09-10-2008, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badass

I would tend to agree with you here. The republicans have changed the way American politics work. Unfortunately, their "constant negative attack" strategy has proven very effective. Obama's strategy of being a gentlemen statesman who appeals to the "middle" simply will not work today in America. We are most assuredly dead smack in the middle of a culture war. The republicans started it and mastered it.

So what should the democrats do? Quite simply - call an idiot and idiot.

Paleontologists should be in ad's discussing how dinosaurs roamed the earth millions of years ago and explain how insane Sarah Palain, a creationist, must be to not believe in them...or think they all fit in Noah's Ark.

Maybe we should talk to some members of Alec Station, the group assigned the initial task of hunting down Osama Bin Laden and Ayman Al Zawihiri and ask them whether they think it was prudent that the Bush Administration shut them down because Bin Laden is not a high priority target any longer. That would be a good ad I think.

Maybe just an ad showing Bin Laden laughing at Bush and his neo-con cabal as he plots another attack against the United States. I mean if there is one thing we know for sure it is that the republicans are the masters of national security. That is why we are embroiled in two wars costing 10 billion a month and Bin Laden and AZ have still not been killed 7 years after they attacked the city of New York and the Pentagon. That is why North Korea detonated a nuclear weapon on George W. Bush's watch as president. That is why Bush is fanning the flames of a new cold war with Russia. That is why Bush and McCain are threatening World War III with Iran.

That is why the entire world is hoping that we are smart enough to rebound from this nightmare and vote for Obama.

Maybe even a new version of this old ad with a caption like: Can we entrust our children's future to President Palin?

I pray to god that the democrat party is stupid enough to run something like that anti christian ad..

Badass · 09-10-2008, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tolanin

I pray to god that the democrat party is stupid enough to run something like that anti christian ad..

Do you believe in dinosaurs?

Tolanin · 09-10-2008, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badass

Do you believe in dinosaurs?

See this is why you guys are bad at attack ads.. you just dont understand that people dont want you to shit on their religion and most of them prolly dont really believe creationism they still dont wanna see that kinda ad and will be pissed if anyone aired that kind of thing.

Airing an anti christian ad in a country that is 90 percent christian would lose you the election in the blink of an eye.

Badass · 09-10-2008, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tolanin

See this is why you guys are bad at attack ads.. you just dont understand that people dont want you to shit on their religion and most of them prolly dont really believe creationism they still dont wanna see that kinda ad and will be pissed if anyone aired that kind of thing.

Airing an anti christian ad in a country that is 90 percent christian would lose you the election in the blink of an eye.

Do you believe in dinosaurs?

Soriak · 09-10-2008, 08:41 PM

That Biden video is pretty funny... like the one where Bush teases a blind reporter about his glasses.

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McCain/Palin	583	33.18%
Obama/Biden	1,131	64.37%
Other	43	2.45%
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Szlia Conquest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,643 +25 Internets	On top of that, these polls are meaningless considering how the president is elected. Some would even say that being behind on the popular vote is a good omen! __________________ -retrosabotage-

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09-10-2008, 07:11 PM	#4546 (permalink)
chaos Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NoVa Posts: 7,162 +29 Internets	Gallup poll is fucking worthless. They seriously had a 14 point flip the other day. I am still waiting to see this "Chicago Machine" in action. McCain is going negative and staying as far away from any discussion of issues as he can get, and I understand that everyone has to play their schill card, but the truth is that the Obama campaign has not been negative. In fact they have been so pointedly not negative, to the point that some supporters of Obama are angry at the lack of negativity. People who like to shit talk Obama's past especially like to point at the "Chicago Machine" and dirty Chicago politics, so when are we going to see some real smearing or underhanded tricks? Now would be the time, one would think.

09-10-2008, 07:32 PM	#4548 (permalink)
TheMarauder Arguementative Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 727	Was this posted yet? I thought it was pretty funny. Republicans steal 'discarded flags'.

09-10-2008, 07:34 PM	#4549 (permalink)
Khorum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,594 -36 Internets	Those were the boy scouts. Fucking boy scouts.

09-10-2008, 07:34 PM	#4550 (permalink)
ChewieTobbacca Spawn more Overlords Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,300	I've said it before - it comes down to electoral votes and Obama's likeliest way of winning now is holding onto Kerry's states + Iowa + Colorado + New Mexico or Nevada and he wins. Fortunately for Obama, he stil holds those states + the win in Congress if it comes to 269-269. Unfortunately for him, momentum is on McCain's side right now, and Obama looks clueless as to how to counter.

09-10-2008, 07:43 PM	#4551 (permalink)
kegkilla Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: killadelphia Posts: 2,519 -205 Internets	aHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

09-10-2008, 08:41 PM	#4560 (permalink)
Soriak Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 5,830 +54 Internets	That Biden video is pretty funny... like the one where Bush teases a blind reporter about his glasses.