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View Poll Results: Who do you think will win the 2008 Presidential Election?
McCain/Palin 583 33.18%
Obama/Biden 1,131 64.37%
Other 43 2.45%
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:48 PM   #4111 (permalink)
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:55 PM   #4112 (permalink)
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your facts? get real, they were spins mostly.

oh and 100 millions americans families, check your numbers, this is not China, there are not enough citizen in the USA to make up 100 millions families...
SPINS? Care to link one? Here's Obama's position on the matter:

That's 100 mllion AMERICANS and their families, dipshit. In your vacuous, self-reinforcing ilusion of reality maybe Americans no longer believe in families and duty and honor and responsibility. But in THIS one Americans, around a hundred million of them, supplement their livelihoods in the same capital markets that Obama is soooooo determined to undermine with his New-Deal socialist obstructions.

And what answer does he give when confronted with the facts? What response does he give to those 100 million Americans that will watch their investments shrivel and fail? OH right, more shallow victimization politics and class warfare emotionalism.

But you think I gots spins right? LOL, what do you think I SPUN about that, tough guy? Why don't you give us YOUR "spins" of the empirical basis of your hollow disposable idealism? Where is YOUR "spins" that support any of that regurgitate second-hand indignity that you've been spewing about those "WAAAH FUCKING RICH PPLZ" around here?

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Privatizing social security would be another Fanny Mae's crisis waiting to happen in the future.
LMFAO you TRULY have no fucking idea do you? Let me put it this way, it is a mathematical CERTAINTY that social security, as it is right now, will begin going red by 2017 and it will be completely bankrupt by 2040.

Unless we DO privatize it, and grant poor people access to the same advanced investment heuristics that the affluent use to retire at the age of 45 or younger, there WON'T BE A SOCIAL SECURITY PROGRAM by 2040

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Old 09-08-2008, 04:59 PM   #4113 (permalink)
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No we aren't. Khorum is correct. Nobody here is saying that war isn't expensive. The point is that depending on your opinion it could be a necessary cost. Like hurricane Katrina, very expensive but very necessary to help those people. Maybe you think the war was wrong, in which case you could argue that it was money wasted. But, at this point it becomes a matter of personal opinion.
What was the reason for the invasion of Iraq?
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:01 PM   #4114 (permalink)
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What was the reason for the invasion of Iraq?
Invisible WMDs.
Oh and in some magical way Saddam was linked to Bin Laden.
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:05 PM   #4115 (permalink)
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i signed up to register to vote with some guy out in front of my campus today but i checked republican and after i gave him the form he told me he was from move-on.org. should i be worried about him throwing out my registration form? seems like something a little liberal sissy would do.
You should've demanded his ID and home address information.

Then sent it to me.
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:09 PM   #4116 (permalink)
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Khorum, you've been posting the same videos for what seems to be a month now. Just relax. Arguing politics is the same as arguing religion. It goes nowhere.

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Old 09-08-2008, 05:29 PM   #4117 (permalink)
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Heh, I've been posting that School Voucher video for a lot longer than a month. And that Obama video since the debate. I suspect I'll be posting both a whole lot more, too.

Someone will come along and queef the same recycled delusion they've been regurgitating about some imagined "good" Obama's New Deal Socialism aims to do and you'll just have to groan while I post those videos again.

Because ultimately, Obama hasn't changed his position on education, he hasn't altered his NON-PLAN about social security and he most certainly hasn't adjusted, explained or even justified his ineffective and disastrous class-warfare tax proposal.
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:44 PM   #4118 (permalink)
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Khorum.

If you dont realize the problem with American schools is 95% because shitty fucking parenting, then you have no idea what you are talking about.
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:49 PM   #4119 (permalink)
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That's 100 mllion AMERICANS and their families, dipshit.
100 mllion AMERICANS and their families is not the same as 100 mllion AMERICANS families

See, again, you distort reality.
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:59 PM   #4120 (permalink)
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Khorum.

If you dont realize the problem with American schools is 95% because shitty fucking parenting, then you have no idea what you are talking about.
Uh-huh and how is UNSHITTY parenting supposed to allow parents to transfer their students from bad schools when the Teachers' Unions battle EVERY attempt to select schools outside their zipcodes?

How will UNSHITTY PARENTING address the facts that the worst neighborhoods in the countries happen to boast the worst-performing schools and that poor parents have NO OPTION to give their kids access to a better school?

Are you saying that there aren't __NO__ shitty catholic parents then? Since catholic high-schools decisively outperform public-schools under every indicator? Are you saying that there are __NO__ shitty parents among those families who send their kids to music conservatories and private military academies who ALSO outperform all public schools?

Those must've been HUNDREDS of shitty parents who sent their kids to wealthy suburban schools this month in protest of the absence of educational options for inner city kids right? Yeah, it's really JUST shitty parenting that convinces every black community commentator from the streets all the way to CNN when they ALL criticize Obama's shallow pandering to the powerful teachers' union right?

You sound like you know what you're talking about, maybe you can explain the supreme court's decision to uphold Ohio's school voucher program after nearly a DECADE of success with their school voucher system. Did they release a special anti-shitty-parenting drug there? You know that the National Teachers Union tried to shut down that voucher program for EIGHT YEARS before the Supreme Court told them to STFU? Did you know that the same Teachers Union tried to SUPPRESS THE TEST RESULTS of the voucher schools because of the obvious effectiveness of the program? Did utah deploy some elite anti-shitty-parent gestapo squad when their school voucher program produced amazing results?

Come to think of it, what factual basis do you have that "shitty parenting" has any relevance at all to the fact that our socialized education system IMPRISONS students in failing schools and discourages excellence among their faculties?
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100 mllion AMERICANS and their families is not the same as 100 mllion AMERICANS families

See, again, you distort reality.
Shut the fuck up, retard. You had key economic indicators, close to four decades of economic policies, and even a fucking movie to try slapping your Obamania against and you stick to SEMANTICS? You wouldn't even have known about that 100 million if I hadn't posted the video for the "hundredth time this month".

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Old 09-08-2008, 06:03 PM   #4121 (permalink)
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Uh-huh and how is UNSHITTY parenting supposed to allow parents to move transfer their students from bad schools when the Teachers' Unions battle EVERY attempt to select schools outside their zipcodes?

How will UNSHITTY PARENTING address the facts that the worst neighborhoods in the countries happen to boast the worst-performing schools and that poor parents have NO OPTION to give their kids access to a better school?

Are you saying that there aren't __NO__ shitty catholic parents then? Since catholic high-schools decisively outperform public-schools under every indicator? Are you saying that there are __NO__ shitty parents among those families who send their kids to music conservatories and private military academies who ALSO outperform all public schools?

Those must've been HUNDREDS of shitty parents who sent their kids to wealthy suburban schools this month in protest of the absence of educational options for inner city kids right? Yeah, it's really JUST shitty parenting that convinces every black community commentator from the streets all the way to CNN when they ALL criticize Obama's shallow pandering to the powerful teachers' union right?

You sound like you know what you're talking about, maybe you can explain the supreme court's decision to uphold Ohio's school voucher program after nearly a DECADE of success with their school voucher system. Did they release a special anti-shitty-parenting drug there? Did utah deploy some elite anti-shitty-parent gestapo squad when their school voucher program produced amazing results?

Come to think of it, what factual basis do you have that "shitty parenting" has any relevance at all to the fact that our socialized education system IMPRISONS students in failing schools and discourages excellence among their faculties?
What he is saying is that its not the schools that are so shitty, its the children from the start. and that a good child would perform well in any kind of school.
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Uh-huh and how is UNSHITTY parenting supposed to allow parents to move transfer their students from bad schools when the Teachers' Unions battle EVERY attempt to select schools outside their zipcodes?

How will UNSHITTY PARENTING address the facts that the worst neighborhoods in the countries happen to boast the worst-performing schools and that poor parents have NO OPTION to give their kids access to a better school?

Are you saying that there aren't __NO__ shitty catholic parents then? Since catholic high-schools decisively outperform public-schools under every indicator? Are you saying that there are __NO__ shitty parents among those families who send their kids to music conservatories and private military academies who ALSO outperform all public schools?

Those must've been HUNDREDS of shitty parents who sent their kids to wealthy suburban schools this month in protest of the absence of educational options for inner city kids right? Yeah, it's really JUST shitty parenting that convinces every black community commentator from the streets all the way to CNN when they ALL criticize Obama's shallow pandering to the powerful teachers' union right?

You sound like you know what you're talking about, maybe you can explain the supreme court's decision to uphold Ohio's school voucher program after nearly a DECADE of success with their school voucher system. Did they release a special anti-shitty-parenting drug there? Did utah deploy some elite anti-shitty-parent gestapo squad when their school voucher program produced amazing results?

Come to think of it, what factual basis do you have that "shitty parenting" has any relevance at all to the fact that our socialized education system IMPRISONS students in failing schools and discourages excellence among their faculties?

Shut the fuck up, retard. You had key economic indicators, close to four decades of economic policies, and even a fucking movie to dispute try slapping your Obamania with and you stick to SEMANTICS? You wouldn't even have known about that 100 million if I hadn't posted the video for the "hundredth time this month".
Youre hopeless. youre just a rabid foaming at the mouth fanatic.

I hope that Obama win just to think about you being enraged every day for the next four years.
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LOL idiot.

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Simple question Khorum are u better of than you were 8 years ago?
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Simple question Khorum are u better of than you were 8 years ago?
Of course he is. He is a war monger who profits from the sorrows of others.
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