McCain/Palin v. Obama/Biden

[Kirby]

Why don't you post what makes her great. I read about her and all i see is an extremely right religious nut.

[Digits]

I just got back from fucking some teenager. Did Pale and Palin drop out of the race yet or do we get the pleasure of seeing an entire political party melt down when they lose in a 1984 style blow out come November when faced against a black man in a shockingly racist country?

[Simas]

Originally Posted by Frax

The more I hear about her, the more I'm sold on her. She's a better candidate than McCain, Obama, or Biden TBQH.

Are you fucking serious? What lead you to that decesion? What can you possibly know about her beyond she is a woman, she is pro-life, she is a creationist and she has been a mayor for almost 2 years.

I think she was a smart pick for reasons I've already mentioned but what in the fuck lead you to decide she is better than McCain, Obama, and Biden?

[Erumaron]

Wonk Room » Sarah Palin: A Champion For Big Oil

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Sarah Palin: A Champion For Big Oil»

Our guest bloggers are Daniel J. Weiss, a Senior Fellow and Director of Climate Strategy at the Center for American Progress Action Fund, and James Kvaal, a Senior Fellow at the Center for American Progress Action Fund.

sarah.jpgWith the choice of Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) as his running mate, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is not backing down from oil drilling. Palin is a champion for drilling, the Bush-Cheney approach to energy policy that brought us $4.00-per-gallon gasoline and the rising threat of global warming.

Like McCain, Palin believes that oil drilling is the only solution to our energy problems. “I beg to disagree with any candidate who would say we can’t drill our way out of our problem,” she says. She supports more drilling in protected areas of the Outer Continental Shelf and the Alaska Natural Wildlife Refuge, once attacking McCain for his “close-mindedness on ANWR.”

But the Department of Energy believes that offshore drilling “would not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030.” Moreover, about three-quarters of all the oil in public lands in the continental U.S. are already open to drilling – and yet only one quarter of this oil is under production. Opening the Arctic Refuge would cut gasoline prices by two cents in 17 years. For that, Palin would destroy the home of America’s native polar bears. Not even T. Boone Pickens still thinks we can drill our way out of this crisis.

Palin rejects clean renewable energy that is an alternative to oil. Earlier this month, she claimed that “alternative-energy solutions are far from imminent and would require more than 10 years to develop.”

Alaska has become the “poster state” for the threat of global warming as the climate gets hotter and dryer and sea levels rise. More than 100 towns are vulnerable due to eroding sea lines. Polar bears are threatened by the melting ice floas, and this month bears were spotted swimming as much as 50 miles offshore.

Nonetheless, like many other oil champions, Palin is skeptical of global warming. During her gubernatorial campaign, she said she was unconvinced about how much human emissions contribute to current global warming trends. Palin also opposes listing our polar bears as a threatened species because it could require action on climate change.

As Carl Pope of the Sierra Club says, “No one is closer to the oil industry than Governor Palin.” Sarah Palin has taken positions that would ensure a continuation of the Bush-Cheney energy policies. She supports drilling everywhere and ignores the need for binding reductions in global warming pollution even though her state is melting. The continuation of these policies will continue higher energy costs, more severe hurricanes and droughts, and despoiled natural treasures.

Not that any of that matters:

[chaos]

Originally Posted by Gilgamel

Then why is it in a change year, with the biggest fuckup in office in my lifetime dragging the party down, with a guy a lot of the republican base doesn't even like representing them, against many people on the left's most favoritest candidate EVAR!!!, in the middle of two wars, in a declining economy, the race is a coin flip at this point? Oh yeah, because even though people are sick and tired of Bush and think the republicans are fuckups they are scared to death about the prospect of a Reid/Pelosi/Obama triumvirate running the country.

I'm not the angry one here. I think Obama by all rights should win, I think the republicans deserve to get thrown out, and I think maybe spending some time out of power might be just what they need to get back to their conservative ideals. I was a huge McCain fan in 00 and I also think he's made a lot of choices over the last two years I don't agree with. But with that said I don't think the thread needs to be gayed up every time McCain does something with people proclaiming he's old/dumb/senile/whatever and Obama will crush him no matter what. If that's the case what are we even here discussing it for?

The Republicans have better marketing than the Dems do, that's why they are doing well. The idea that half of the country is paralyzed in fear of people they don't know except for sound bytes is preposterous. I mean, we have had Republican controlled Congress for like what, 12 years? And yet we still have welfare and abortion? And how about those taxes, or social security? These issues play well to the base, but change on the level their platform dictates is not feasible. Same with the Dems, we are still in Iraq, they haven't done shit, but at the end of the day the majority of Americans are pro choice, and do not want privatized social security, and do want actual middle class income tax cuts as opposed to capital gains tax cuts or corporate tax cuts, and want the war to end, etc etc. People don't vote the issues, they vote the candidate and the party.

[Jedah]

Originally Posted by Erumaron

Wonk Room » Sarah Palin: A Champion For Big Oil

Alaska also redistributes a percentage of its oil income to its citizens.

[Gilgamel]

Originally Posted by Digits

I just got back from fucking some teenager.

Where did you hide his body?

[Erumaron]

Originally Posted by Jedah

Alaska also redistributes a percentage of its oil income to its citizens.

I guess complacency does have a dollar figure attached to it.

[kegkilla]

Originally Posted by Gilgamel

Where did you hide his body?

Instant Rimshot

[Mymn]

Originally Posted by Jedah

Alaska also redistributes a percentage of its oil income to its citizens.

From what I understand, this is coming from a windfall profits tax that this evil oil woman pushed thru in Alaska this year as gov. Alaskans will each receive a check for $1200, thanks big oil.

[Manseed]

Originally Posted by Digits

I just got back from fucking some teenager.

Just to put it in perspective, a conviction of statutory rape will land you the same protective custody uniform as child molesters and rapists. Watch out for your corn hole, bud.

But yeah, I love me some 17 year old ass. It's almost worth the guaranteed rape I'd endure in chino state.

[chaos]

Originally Posted by Mymn

From what I understand, this is coming from a windfall profits tax that this evil oil woman pushed thru in Alaska this year as gov. Alaskans will each receive a check for $1200, thanks big oil.

no.

Originally Posted by Some News Site

The state established the Alaska Permanent Fund in 1976 after North Slope oil was discovered. Dividends have been paid since 1982, ranging from $331 to a record high of $1,963 in 2000. Last year's dividend check was $1,106.

[Manseed]

Originally Posted by kegkilla

Instant Rimshot

[Jedah]

Originally Posted by Mymn

From what I understand, this is coming from a windfall profits tax that this evil oil woman pushed thru in Alaska this year as gov. Alaskans will each receive a check for $1200, thanks big oil.

It's been paying out since 1982, and also I don't think that oil companies are responsible for recent price hikes.

It does establish that she would have a vested interest, politically, in drilling ANWR regardless of whether or not it would actually be effective at reducing oil prices (it's unlikely it would) or affecting a real change in consumption of foreign oil (we're waaaaaaaaay passed that point of no return short of converting our entire automotive fleet to electric).

[Tyen]

I welcome my Palin overload.