McCain/Palin v. Obama/Biden

[Tuco]

Originally Posted by tad10

It sucks to be an Obama supporter right now with the icy finger of lose reaching toward your candidate.

You can demonize Palin all you want but If McCain/Palin win in November it won't be Palin that will win the election (though she'll have helped) it will be because Obama's liberal politics aren't in sync with the majority of Americans.

I wouldn't say it's a bad time to be an Obama supportor (note I don't support him), and considering the theme of the RNC shifted towards change and reform, I don't know if McCain is in agreement with you that Obama's politics aren't in synch with the majority of Americans.

[The Edge]

Originally Posted by tad10

It sucks to be an Obama supporter right now with the icy finger of lose reaching toward your candidate.

You can demonize Palin all you want but If McCain/Palin win in November it won't be Palin that will win the election (though she'll have helped) it will be because Obama's liberal politics aren't in sync with the majority of Americans.

The majority of this country is retarded. They are the same majority that voted for Bush.... twice!

If Obama doesn't win, it will not be because of his politics. It will be because of fear based attacks made by the McCain campaign. The people that buy into this type of campaigning are coincidentally also the same ones holding onto their religious beliefs out of fear.

i.e.
"if you vote for Obama, he won't be experienced enough to save you from the terrorists!"

"if you don't believe and follow everything in this book, you will burn in eternal hell fire!"

Fear is a strong tool, and the Right banks on making you a believer!

[Gecko]

Originally Posted by Smocca

Haha that's great. Thanks for the new sig.

Feel free to add the General Betray-Us big ad Moveon ran right next to that one!

Obama has been on Fox, what, twice in 18 months? It's nice he goes to MSNBC a lot and gets softballs, but really this is hypocritical to the max, especially to a sitting Governor who has responsibilities.

[The Edge]

Originally Posted by Gecko

Feel free to add the General Betray-Us big ad Moveon ran right next to that one!

Obama has been on Fox, what, twice in 18 months? It's nice he goes to MSNBC a lot and gets softballs, but really this is hypocritical to the max, especially to a sitting Governor who has responsibilities.

Fox is absolutely terrible, and would be hard pressed to show more bias than they already do. My girlfriend turns it on when she wants a good laugh in the morning (Hi2u Fox and Friends). I was shocked Obama actually went on O'Reilly, but bravo to him for doing so.

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Oh, and Smocca's post that you were replying to was showing avoidance of the PRESS. Not a news channel, but the entire media. Don't try to compare the two sir. Also, if Palin all the sudden shows up for an interview with Fox, it will just further prove my point.

[Warrian]

Originally Posted by Tuco

I wouldn't say it's a bad time to be an Obama supportor (note I don't support him), and considering the theme of the RNC shifted towards change and reform, I don't know if McCain is in agreement with you that Obama's politics aren't in synch with the majority of Americans.

It all depends on what that change is. There are several differences between Obama and McCain which define "Change". To make a blanket statement like that is completely wrong.

[Tolanin]

Originally Posted by The Edge

Fox is absolutely terrible, and would be hard pressed to show more bias than they already do. My girlfriend turns it on when she wants a good laugh in the morning (Hi2u Fox and Friends). I was shocked Obama actually went on O'Reilly, but bravo to him for doing so.

doesnt everyone watch morning shows for a good laugh? Or did i miss the serious issues tackled by Today?

You guys blame fox so much but Foxs news shows are very well crafted to not show bias, if you watch a comentator who never claimed to be impartial and are astounded when its bias you are prolly in the same group of people who think NYTs news stories are bias based on the editorial bias.

[The Edge]

Originally Posted by Tolanin

doesnt everyone watch morning shows for a good laugh? Or did i miss the serious issues tackled by Today?

I would be referring to the ridiculous, baffling, racist, idiotic bantering. Not mindless news coverage.

[Tolanin]

Originally Posted by The Edge

I would be referring to the ridiculous, baffling, racist, idiotic bantering. Not mindless news coverage.

And how is that different from every other morning show.. other than your baseless allegations of racism.

[chaos]

Originally Posted by Warrian

It all depends on what that change is. There are several differences between Obama and McCain which define "Change". To make a blanket statement like that is completely wrong.

So when the Democratic candidate lays out an argument for change, it's just a meaningless marketing term. But when the Republican candidate tries to adopt this message (presumably because it is a powerful message, and not because he hates himself and wants to lose) then it's totally different? Because McCain has identified what he means by "change" in a fundamental way that Obama has not? Kind of a repeat of yesterday's conversation, but witht he fact being that Republicans have tried to straight up swipe the Democrats line, one that the right had a habit of making fun of for it's seeming lack of substance, it's very hard to argue that it doesn't carry significant weight with independants and the Republican base.

[Darus Grey]

Alaskans Speak (In A Frightened Whisper): Palin Is “Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, And Mean.� | The LA Progressive

snopes.com: A Note to All by Anne Kilkenny

Probably bullshit, but funny anyways.

[owakefka]

Take this for what you will, McCain making a promise that he has yet upheld.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

Originally Posted by Tuco

I wouldn't say it's a bad time to be an Obama supportor (note I don't support him). I love McCain.

Shill status proven.

[The Edge]

Originally Posted by Tolanin

And how is that different from every other morning show.. other than your baseless allegations of racism.

If all other stations really seem the same to you, you really need to take off the cynical glasses.

[Smocca]

I really don't see how even Palin supporter's aren't pissed off about this media thing. What the hell harm is there in getting more information? The only explanation is if you were worried she really was incompetent in which case fuck you for wanting to sneak her into office.

The only information she has "given" us is a speech written by a Bush speech writer before she was even picked for the VP spot. The parts of the speech which were "her own" were blatant lies.

FactCheck.org: GOP Convention Spin, Part II
Factchecking Palin, By Hilzoy - CBS News

She was arrogant and sarcastic to such an extent that she was obviously overcompensating for something (i.e. her incompetence). Everyone, Palin supporters included, should be asking for true interviews with her. Hiding from the press is about as commie as you get not to mention it makes you a pussy.

McCain has gone from a PoW War Hero to a communist pussy.

(last part is mostly sarcastic so don't get your panties in a bunch)

[Twobit Whore]

She's been nominated for.. 8 days.

8 days.

I'm sure everyone wants to know more, but... 8 days. In a month you may have a valid point, right now you don't.