McCain/Palin v. Obama/Biden

[Snugglebear]

I'm still pretty set on voting for Obama, but even I have enough respect for McCain to realize that he will tell the extremists in the Republican party to fuck off once he gets elected.

[GrobbeeTrull2.0]

Originally Posted by Snugglebear

I'm still pretty set on voting for Obama, but even I have enough respect for McCain to realize that he will tell the extremists in the Republican party to fuck off once he gets elected.

Like his Vice President?

[Designz]

Originally Posted by Mippo

McCain would've taken the country to war with Iraq. Obama would not have.

Taking the country to war with Iraq was the absolute biggest mistake this country has made in a long, long time. McCain was 100% behind the war, Obama 100% opposed to it.

Nothing else needs to be said on who should be President. We have the benefit of hindsight now but Obama made the right choice, and McCain would've screwed this country over just like Bush did. No other policy is going to affect this country as much as the Iraq War did and the fact that McCain got that decision so very wrong you'd have to be an absolute idiot to vote for him.

I agree here. The war, even if it is going to be a "success", was a bad decision. There is no success in going into a country, changing their whole foundation, and in the process killing tens of thousands of citizens. We shouldn't be playing some sort of global bully.

If you've read anything about colonialism, you'd understand that not every culture wants the same values as us. We can't go into a "messed up" country and then try to force feed our values with guns and missiles. Our whole reason for going into Iraq was twisted and has nothing to do with terrorists. We could have tried many other things, just as Obama supports. War should always be the absolute last option.

[Vandyn]

Originally Posted by Designz

I agree here. The war, even if it is going to be a "success", was a bad decision. There is no success in going into a country, changing their whole foundation, and in the process killing tens of thousands of citizens. We shouldn't be playing some sort of global bully.

If you've read anything about colonialism, you'd understand that not every culture wants the same values as us. We can't go into a "messed up" country and then try to force feed our values with guns and missiles. Our whole reason for going into Iraq was twisted and has nothing to do with terrorists. We could have tried many other things, just as Obama supports. War should always be the absolute last option.

The problem here is that hindsight is 20/20. I agree, I thought going into Iraq was a bad idea but if I also remember correctly, most everyone voted to go into Iraq (Obama wasn't in the Senate in 2003). If Hillary won the nomination, does that mean no Dems vote period since she voted for the war???

[Snugglebear]

Originally Posted by GrobbeeTrull2.0

Like his Vice President?

I think it's guaranteed that McCain, with his temper, will tell Palin to SHUT THE FUCK UP at least once in the White House. I'd put money on it happening during the campaign. A seventy-year-old man can only hear so many references to 'hockey mom' from some dumb bitch before he quickdraws on the PimpSlap Express.

The only way Vice President Palin will get any say in John McCain's presidency is if he croaks and she becomes the the President.

[Designz]

Originally Posted by Vandyn

The problem here is that hindsight is 20/20. I agree, I thought going into Iraq was a bad idea but if I also remember correctly, most everyone voted to go into Iraq (Obama wasn't in the Senate in 2003). If Hillary won the nomination, does that mean no Dems vote period since she voted for the war???

I'm trying to emphasize that Obama seems to have the right perspective for such situations. Sure, hindsight is 20/20, but the decision making process is always taken into consideration. The Bush administration does not contain people who make wise decisions because they have twisted perspectives and ideologies. Right when Bush announced the Iraqi war, I was thinking what the heck does WMD have to do with terrorists, but again and again, the administration kept force feeding me the idea that we are having a war on terrorists.

Didn't any of you think, "what the hell is a war on terrorism?" Terrorists are everywhere, in every country. You can't win a war on terrorism. You can kill some, but eventually, they'll just come back, and all you've done is create a lot of misery.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

So tomorrow is Sunday. That means that the Sunday political talks shows will occur. Obama, McCain, and Biden have extensive interviews on such shows and have articulately stated their views on the issues. If you missed any of them, you can go to YouTube and review them. Not only that but all three appear evey week on at least one show each.

Will Palin be on any show this Sunday? Before the FoH Axis of Evil answers with the self serving Republican talking point of "Liberal Media Bias", remember that FOX News has FOX News Sunday with Chris Wallace.

Will the McCain campaign let Palin out of her basement to speak on a topic other than Obama bashing?

I wonder will FOX News put up a "Palin Watch" like they did with Obama.

[Vandyn]

Originally Posted by I'm Rich Bitch

So tomorrow is Sunday. That means that the Sunday political talks shows will occur. Obama, McCain, and Biden have extensive interviews on such shows and have articulately stated their views on the issues. If you missed any of them, you can go to YouTube and review them. Not only that but all three appear evey week on at least one show each.

Will Palin be on any show this Sunday? Before the FoH Axis of Evil answers with the self serving Republican talking point of "Liberal Media Bias", remember that FOX News has FOX News Sunday with Chris Wallace.

Will the McCain campaign let Palin out of her basement to speak on a topic other than Obama bashing?

Doubt it. As I mentioned earlier, she probably still knows jack shit about anything the McCain campaign is about. They can't keep doing this forever though. The VP debate will force her to answer questions that she won't have a canned answer for. McCain is hoping (gambling?) that she's knowledgable enough on the issues until then.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

Palin Media Avoidance Watch, Day Seven

Not only does she not know shit about anything, the McCain campaign does not want her radically conservative views to be known. Palin is so conservative she makes Pat Buchanan look like Michael Moore.

[emoo]

Originally Posted by Designz

Didn't any of you think, "what the hell is a war on terrorism?" Terrorists are everywhere, in every country. You can't win a war on terrorism. You can kill some, but eventually, they'll just come back, and all you've done is create a lot of misery.

Don't stop there. Take that thought to completion:
Terrorists are just people who are miserable enough to go commit shocking homicides...

War on terrorism has panned out to be just another self-defeating (and thus highly successful) plan to extort Americans out of their wealth.

[Mippo]

Originally Posted by Vandyn

The problem here is that hindsight is 20/20. I agree, I thought going into Iraq was a bad idea but if I also remember correctly, most everyone voted to go into Iraq (Obama wasn't in the Senate in 2003). If Hillary won the nomination, does that mean no Dems vote period since she voted for the war???

No, but it is the reason why a lot of Democrats voted against Hillary in the primaries. Let's not forget she lost.

The point is that it shows the decision making process of the people who are running for President. It shows that McCain makes very poor decisions, and that is not someone I want as President. He would've screwed our country over just like Bush did, why would I want to elect him? What would change? He voted with Bush 90% of the time and that's not likely to change because they think the same way, despite the political spin he is putting out. He has shown he is a poor decision maker and there isn't any reason to think that will change if he becomes President.

The majority of Americans knew the Iraq war was a very, very bad idea and if McCain didn't realize that, even after he was a prisoner of war in Vietnam, another horrible war, he is a lost cause.

[Melchizedek]

Originally Posted by PigBenis

I swear to god I'm moving to Canada if McCain wins this shit.

I will personally buy your ticket. One less cock to worry about fucking up the country.

[Melchizedek]

Originally Posted by Badass

How do you keep posting here?

Maybe because it is fun to throw reality into the face of liberalism? This thread is pure gold. The way libs have to twist and contort their words to make people like you.

Who said what on abortion?

Thats above my paygrade.

Life begins at conception.

The debates are going to be fucking awesome as Obama and Biden have to parse their words while McCain and America's Sweetheart just speak in plain language to the common citizen who lives in flyover country.

Delicious!

[I'm Rich Bitch]

Originally Posted by Mippo

The point is that it shows the decision making process of the people who are running for President. It shows that McCain makes very poor decisions, and that is not someone I want as President.

If McCain had won the election in 2000 he would have picked Cheney and Rumsfield.

[Melchizedek]

Originally Posted by GrobbeeTrull2.0

I, nor my parents, received a phone call asking if we were offended or thought the media was going after Palin maliciously. I demand a recount, or at least a retraction on your part for assuming 51% of the entire nation actually thinks that when it's 51% of those polled (probably something like 10,000 people total, if that).

Look, this thread is out of control and surprise surprise, Khorum is leading the way on it's derailment. Someone shitcan this, it's outlived it's usefulness.

Well holy crap! Damn Gobbee, since when where you annointed supreme dictator of the people's republic of the United States. This is a prime example of how left wingers / libs think:

OMFG, he/she does not think like me, they must be some dumb ass NASCAR lover who goes to church!

Delicious.