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View Poll Results: Who do you think will win the 2008 Presidential Election?
McCain/Palin 583 33.18%
Obama/Biden 1,131 64.37%
Other 43 2.45%
Voters: 1757. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-04-2008, 09:53 AM   #2596 (permalink)
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Linking this again as it is an interesting read:
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:57 AM   #2597 (permalink)
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Maverick McCain? Not even by his own words can he make that argument.
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:58 AM   #2598 (permalink)
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Also, dried up femi-nazi (I don't really like Rush but he has soem pretty spot on definitions of people!) doesn't like Sarah Palin!

Palin: wrong woman, wrong message - Los Angeles Times
Remember when Conservatives were conservatives? If not, let's hear what a real conservative woman has to say:

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I’m stunned - couldn’t the Republican Party find one competent female with adult children to run for Vice President with McCain? I realize his advisors probably didn’t want a “mature” woman, as the Democrats keep harping on his age. But really, what kind of role model is a woman whose fifth child was recently born with a serious issue, Down Syndrome, and then goes back to the job of Governor within days of the birth?

I am haunted by the family pictures of the Palins during political photo-ops, showing the eldest daughter, now pregnant with her own child, cuddling the family’s newborn. When Mom and Dad both work full-time (no matter how many folks get involved with the children), it becomes a somewhat chaotic situation. Certainly, if a child becomes ill and is rushed to the hospital, and you’re on the hotline with both Israel and Iran as nuclear tempers are flaring, where’s your attention going to be? Where should your attention be? Well, once you put your hand on the Bible and make that oath, your attention has to be with the government of the United States of America.
Source: Dr. Laura

Conservatism has been redefined as an absentee mother who has a knocked up 17 year old daughter as acceptable. Now those are true "Family Values".
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:58 AM   #2599 (permalink)
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Dumb dumb dumb! he said it and laughed when he did because he knew the figure was not accurate. The fact that Obama jumped all over it in his acceptance speech shows how very, very little the left has to attack him with.
Why the fuck would someone answer a question with a joke response? Seriously? Professionalism at it's finest.
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:01 AM   #2600 (permalink)
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Linking this again as it is an interesting read:
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This will come out once someone is allowed to talk to Palin. The "media bias" thing can only work for a few days at most.
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:02 AM   #2601 (permalink)
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Why the fuck would someone answer a question with a joke response? Seriously? Professionalism at it's finest.
It wasn't a 'joke' response, it was a stupid question.

"How much money means you are rich?"

What is your answer, Stalin?
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This will come out once someone is allowed to talk to Palin. The "media bias" thing can only work for a few days at most.
How the hell can you sit here straight faced and say that Palin has been shown 'bias' from the media since her selection a week ago? They've been ripping into her family life non-stop. It has been incredibly disturbing to see how far the twenty-four hour news stations are willing to go these days (FOX included). I would be happy if they were just going after her policies which is definitely fair game, but they aren't.

On a side note for the 'internetz' (both positive and negative) on my avatar, its a picture of Obama holding the NAZI Flag, I am by no means a NAZI. Socialism disgusts me.

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Old 09-04-2008, 10:11 AM   #2603 (permalink)
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Hold up I see where youre going but lets not get really carried away here....

Just because party A is full blown retarded doesn't let Party B who is less retarded off the hook.

Calling the democrats fiscally conservative is like calling a horse a truck. Does not compute.
Thank you. Looking at the 2nd term of Bill Clinton and saying "democrats are fiscally conservative" is a fallacy. Clinton wanted to do all sorts of things, but he had a republican congress that had dedicated it's existence to thwarting anything he wanted to do. Result? Surplus!

Give the reins of reins of both congress and the white house to either party and they go hog wild (see GWB's first term). The road to fiscal conservatism is to keep them fighting with each other so only the really important stuff can actually get approved.
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On a side note for the 'internetz' (both positive and negative) on my avatar, its a picture of Obama holding the NAZI Flag, I am by no means a NAZI. Socialism disgusts me.
So much classier.
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How the hell can you sit here straight faced and say that Palin has been shown 'bias' from the media since her selection a week ago? They've been ripping into her family life non-stop. It has been incredibly disturbing to see how far the 24hour news stations are willing to go these days.
Oh I think we saw back in the beginning of the year when they were doing it to Obama.

The fake-outrage is really getting tired guy. I bet you can't wait till the next set of talking-points get sent to you.. fingers crossed that they are better than these last ones!

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So much classier.
I thought so.
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Oh I think we saw back in the beginning of the year when they were doing it to Obama.

The fake-outrage is really getting tired guy. I bet you can't wait till the next set of talking-points get sent to you.. fingers crossed that they are better than these last ones!

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They shouldn't of been doing it to Obama either, the families of politicians should be off limits unless said family members willingly engage themselves in the political process (ie making speeches on policy).

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How the hell can you sit here straight faced and say that Palin has been shown 'bias' from the media since her selection a week ago? They've been ripping into her family life non-stop. It has been incredibly disturbing to see how far the twenty-four hour news stations are willing to go these days (FOX included). I would be happy if they were just going after her policies which is definitely fair game, but they aren't.

On a side note for the 'internetz' (both positive and negative) on my avatar, its a picture of Obama holding the NAZI Flag, I am by no means a NAZI. Socialism disgusts me.
That is not what I meant. McCain is hiding Palin from talking to the media by using this fake protest. He is wants to hide her radical views from the public. Soon she will have to speak to the public without having a speech written by the McCain campaign in front of her.

She has not even appeared on FOX News network. She has not even answered soft ball questions from Sean Hannity.
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That is not what I meant. McCain is hiding Palin from talking to the media by using this fake protest. He is wants to hide her radical views from the public. Soon she will have to speak to the public without having a speech written by the McCain campaign in front of her.

She has not even appeared on FOX News network. She has not even answered soft ball questions from Sean Hannity.
Do you really think that the party believes they can hide her from the media and the public for months until elected?

Do you think she isn't going to have to do interviews and debates? Answer questions and endure investigations and scrutiny?

You honestly can't believe that the GOP thinks that they can just hide her away until she is the VP.

Then again, maybe you do.
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It wasn't a 'joke' response, it was a stupid question.

"How much money means you are rich?"

What is your answer, Stalin?
It's not a stupid question--it's directly related to the attempts to paint Obama as elitist and out of touch. So in response, McCain fires off a stupid answer for a stupid question?

My answer doesn't matter--I'm not the one running for President, nor do I set policy. Keep working on the character assassination though, because I know you certainly have no real data to post or refutations to make.

I mean, the number crunchers have been through it--Obama will save everyone but the top 2% of the nation's earners money. I like money, do you? Census data shows that every single subset of the American population gets wealthier under Democratic leadership; this extends back at least 70 years.

Abortion, Gay Marriage, Religion--sideshows to the true matters and underpinnings of the way the world works. Sort out the economy, and everything else will fall into place.
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