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View Poll Results: Who do you think will win the 2008 Presidential Election?
McCain/Palin 583 33.18%
Obama/Biden 1,131 64.37%
Other 43 2.45%
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:18 PM   #2476 (permalink)
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I disagree completely. I actually think the opposite. If it was McCain vs Obama without the republican party, Bush, and all the other bullshit hanging around his neck I think McCain would give him a Reaganesque thrashing. The hype for Obama is great but the kids won't turn out in November and McCain is almost universally liked and respected. If the republicans hadn't fucked up and picked Bush over McCain in 2000 the democrats wouldn't have control of the house and senate.
True dat. Palin hurts McCain even further. Without Bush and Palin, and the rest of the Right Wing nuts, McCain would beat Obama. Not by a landslide but he would beat him. If McCain were a Democrat with Obama as VP they would landslide any possible GOP ticket. McCain should have converted to Democrat in 2000 after the GOP fucked him up with smears.

McCain could have been a very good Democrat. As it turns out he is a pathetic Republican.

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Old 09-03-2008, 11:18 PM   #2477 (permalink)
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Hey, probably a good third of my posts have been just me trying to find a new way to call IRB a stupid fuck. I think we should all spread it around. But honestly, that was a stupidly re fucking tarded comment that aychamo made. I had to pause to consider the sheer ignorance of it and how it may affect my daily life.
What's sad is you think any of us care what you think about us! If you have something to say regarding the thread's title, that's awesome. But just flaming other posters because we don't agree with you, well, that's just boring.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:19 PM   #2478 (permalink)
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Palin had to take an extra day to get ready for this little speech that wasn't even written for her. They had to make it less masculine for her to deliver it because it even Mccain's staff thought he'd pick a man.


Golf clap for bringing up a few talking point memos about how Obama's oratory skills aren't better because Mccain was a pow and how Biden has been in the political system for too long and Mccain is a pow and how* has been in the * too * and Mccain is a pow. Now soon we'll get to see this woman off the teleprompter and I think she'll amaze us with her ignorance and hell it just may make ignorant Americans love her more.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:20 PM   #2479 (permalink)
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Dude Blackwater is gone. It is done. Even you know that.

Rove....lol..... even Karl knows his future is behind bars.
Do you even have the FIRST clue what you're talking about? At all? Blackwater troops were on the ground working security in Gustav-affected areas and they just got their license renewed by the state department.. You think this is just another one of your fucking cafe-soapbox handjob issues? Blackwater changes the rules.

I actually DO know some folks in Blackwater, and sadly no, they're not going ANYWHERE. I've been VERY uncomfortable of their existence but everyone who understands what they really are begrudge their necessity.

You should spend a little time understanding what the ramifications of Blackwater's successes under fire in Iraq really REALLY means for the industry. Already there are hundreds of new PMC's coming into the fore (Blackwater itself has grown into a 20,000-man brigade-organized force).

The repercussions are immense and far-reaching. Even now there's talk of mining and resource exploitation projects deep into Africa and south America that were never possible before because of security issues. Now you hear talk of ExxonMobil, BP and ConocoPhillips drooling over oil and gas projects that were impossible years ago but is now doable with a 500-man professional army permanently on-site.

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Old 09-03-2008, 11:21 PM   #2480 (permalink)
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I usually try to at least lurk in this thread, but I missed a few days. Could someone give the the Cliffs Notes for the past...

*Checks*

100 pages? Oh, fuck this.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:23 PM   #2481 (permalink)
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I usually try to at least lurk in this thread, but I missed a few days. Could someone give the the Cliffs Notes for the past...

*Checks*

100 pages? Oh, fuck this.
Sarah Palin = Hot.
IRB = Crazy
McCain = Old
Obama = Hype
Biden = Blowhard
Media = Biased
Jon Stewart = Funny.
Khorum = verbose

Basically it's going to come down to the debates between Obama and McCain.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:27 PM   #2482 (permalink)
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Btw watching John Stewart he just made a nice little comment..

On the press release the Palins claimed that it was her daughters decision to keep the baby and to respect it.


Isn't Palin totally against choice. Even in the sad event of a rape.. Backpedaling much?
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Now soon we'll get to see this woman off the teleprompter and I think she'll amaze us with her ignorance and hell it just may make ignorant Americans love her more.
Hehe and then what? What happens if it turns out that she's even more passionate and detail-oriented than Obama, McCain and Biden? What happens if it becomes obvious that the woman is a meticulous and precise chief executive and what happens when the qualities that allowed her to tackle the ExxonMobils and BP's in Alaska become manifest "off-the-cuff"?

What happens when you expect a Dubya and instead you get more of this:

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When you look at what she did for Alaska - giving all that money back to the population, getting rid of her private cook, selling the private jet, etc, how can you not think she's a badass? She fought her own party and kicked ass. What has Obama done? Voted "present." Awesome!
We're talking about Sarah Palin who left her city of 7kish people in 22 million of debt after raising taxes by 38%?

The same Sarah Palin who was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it?

yeah that's kicking ass.

I find it funny seeing you, Mr I-hate-religious-fucks defending this book banning, I want creationism taught in schools, ban all abortions even in rape/incest wacko.

Alaska first! right?

As a bonus her's a pic of her and her special needs child.
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Hehe and then what? What happens if it turns out that she's even more passionate and detail-oriented than Obama, McCain and Biden? What happens if it becomes obvious that the woman is a meticulous and precise chief executive and what happens when the qualities that allowed her to tackle the ExxonMobils and BP's in Alaska become manifest "off-the-cuff"?

What happens when you expect a Dubya and instead you get more of this:

yep she's pretty good in those videos. We'll she how it goes. I've seen videos that show the opposite too.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:37 PM   #2486 (permalink)
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Holy shit, that CNBC video is the first time I've actually been impressed with her. That's outstanding.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:38 PM   #2487 (permalink)
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Hehe and then what? What happens if it turns out that she's even more passionate and detail-oriented than Obama, McCain and Biden? What happens if it becomes obvious that the woman is a meticulous and precise chief executive and what happens when the qualities that allowed her to tackle the ExxonMobils and BP's in Alaska become manifest "off-the-cuff"?

What happens when you expect a Dubya and instead you get more of this:
The neo-con Republicans will mold her into what they want her to be, and not who and what she actually is. If you think McCain or anyone in his cabinet (if he were to get elected) would listen to her or have their decisions tempered by her judgment, you're going to be sorely disappointed.

She's able to help the ticket, but will not be allowed to have a real impact if she actually attains the VP spot.
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What happens if it turns out that she's even more passionate and detail-oriented than Obama, McCain and Biden?
ill kill my first son on this one. Like the Bible said.
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Old 09-03-2008, 11:43 PM   #2489 (permalink)
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Just cought a nice clip from the Mitt Romney speech..

"Its time for a party of big ideas not the party of Big Brother"

FISA much?
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John Stewart just took the fucking house down.
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