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View Poll Results: Who do you think will win the 2008 Presidential Election?
McCain/Palin 583 33.18%
Obama/Biden 1,131 64.37%
Other 43 2.45%
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Old 08-29-2008, 04:59 PM   #211 (permalink)
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Plus she's going to be a fucking idiot under media scrutiny. Does anyone think she won't crack under pressure? This girl can handle herself fine in some decaying piece of shit wasteland, but in an area that can be qualified as 'civilization' she is going to be torn apart. Can you imagine this girl versus Biden? Holy hell. The only chance they have is if she decides to break down crying every 5 minutes.
Good point. Although you may argue that Obama does not have experience, he has been running for President for 2 years now and has been beat up in the process. He has been in over 20 debates, handled a crisis (Rev. Wright), been called every name, been smeared, held numerous town halls, media avails, magazine interviews and stump speeches. He has opened himself up to the public, become an American icon and household name, and run a $500 million campaign staff. Not only has he competed with the top candidates, he is the top candidate. He beat the Clinton machine. Palin is unknown governor of a state of about 10 people.

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Right, but that same period wasn't the totality of McCain's time and efforts in the legislature now was it?
What's your point? McCain cared less about his job as he got older?
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He actually made his campaign relevant. Rather than simply being a referendum on Obama he actually gets himself back into the spotlight and brings attention to his convention next week. Some of that spark Obama had has been shifted to McCain.
I think this is very bad for McCain. McCain should not want the spotlight on him. People were getting Obama fatigue. Not any longer. McCain should have stayed undercover.
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No but we were comparing careers and specifically grooming/experience.

I was comparing Palin's to Obama's and you introduced McCain. It doesn't look good at all that McCain was so absent recently, but he has a long track record which makes the recent absenteeism less of an issue in comparison to Obama.

And it's still a valid point, in the context of experience on the tickets, that Palin did enact reform and held a position that allowed her to do so compared to Obama who just seemed to go from post to post without leaving much of a mark anywhere at all.
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haha, CnC is old school and been around in a bunch of scenes for a while. Generally good guy back in the day, not a spoof on anyone's account that's for sure.
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Heres a blog post by some dude in Alaska talking about Palin. It explains what she is being investigated for.

What is McCain Thinking? One Alaskan’s Perspective. « Mudflats

And heres "downtown" Wasilla. (as according to the blog)
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Haha, that's the second awesome rant from Cafferty I've seen in the past month. And to whoever docked me a point because 'Alaska has more than 9000 people' I was referring to the town she was mayor over, where the bulk of her experience comes from and all of her problem solving capacity was tested. She showed herself a true champion of the people by deftly handling crises such as 'Will there be enough snow for the local dog sled competition?'

Even still, Alaska is the least populous state in the Union. You guys have fun getting that opportunistic shit elected.
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Just wish the vitriol would be gone. That blog post and the rant, just baiting and reading insulting emails.

Only thing remotely solid was the pipeline cited, and I'm almost sure the all-alaskan pipe would be a lot more expensive.

Good to see obvious democratic supporters ragging on her experience though, that's a good start for the plan I think.
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Just wish the vitriol would be gone. That blog post and the rant, just baiting and reading insulting emails.

Only thing remotely solid was the pipeline cited, and I'm almost sure the all-alaskan pipe would be a lot more expensive.

Good to see obvious democratic supporters ragging on her experience though, that's a good start for the plan I think.
Yea, there's no difference between studying and teaching law for 15 years and then engaging in over a decade of legislative service and a house wife deciding she can run for office and 6 years later being tapped to be the vice president of the United States. Spin it all you like, but this has destroyed the experience advantage pushed by McCain and highlights his mortality. Three weeks from now we'll all shaking our heads over how stupid this pick turned out to be, and how idiotic it was for McCain to pander to the insane cat lady vote.

The only reason there is vitriol in this campaign is due to McCain and Clinton running a filthy campaign, and it bringing out emotion and passion in the supporters of the opposing side. Oh, and this little thing known as the terrible Republican track record when it comes to governing. I'd really rather enjoy prosperity and peace over more wars and the de-evolution of our country.
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There was an absolutely great NYtimes article looking at what he did studying and teaching law. The report was not much, and specifically as a professor he disengaged from the faculty and held the job part time only to help fund political races, which he then did not do much in.


I agree McCain has fatal flaws, some of which I hate, but so does Obama. I'm pretty sure most people would prefer prosperity and peace over war and de-evolution, so I concede that.


I just believe, as vague as everything is, that America has lost a sense of personal responsibility and Obama's plans to me don''t extinguish that but exascerbate it. Just across the board it seems.
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