McCain/Palin v. Obama/Biden

[I'm Rich Bitch]

Originally Posted by Digits

Also, anyone point out that Obama has a new floor for his support at 48 support with a ceiling of 51, whereas McCain has a floor of 42 and a ceiling of 45? Best Election ever.

Interesting analysis.

[Manseed]

Originally Posted by Digits

There will be nothing more satisfying than dismantling the entirety of the GOP power structure after their absolute rule of the government showed how inept and incompetent they truly are. How does it feel knowing that your party is in such disarray and of poor quality that an inexperienced black man named Hussein is able to challenge the mighty White War Hero?

The worst thing to ever happen to the Republican party is winning an election. They should just stick to sucking black dick through bathroom walls, getting DUIs for themselves and their family, and running small towns into bankruptcy.

Edit: Oh, and not being able to pilot jet planes and graduating 5th from the bottom of a class of 800. Pubbies are really good at all this sort of shit, so they should be plenty occupied fucking up everything other than my federal government.

Also, anyone point out that Obama has a new floor for his support at 48 support with a ceiling of 51, whereas McCain has a floor of 42 and a ceiling of 45? Best Election ever.

Good luck, buddy. This should have been an easy election for you. It's neck and neck because you guys took a huge chance. McCain is not a strong candidate, and we're coming off of the Bush administration's disapproval rating. That's what makes this so good. You should have this wrapped up with no problems, but you don't. That's why it will be so epic when you lose. When you realize that no matter how much you refuse to shower, no matter how much you protest in the streets, no matter how much pot you smoke you stupid fucking hippies don't really matter all that much. Again, good luck, buddy.

[Warrian]

Sucking black dick through bathroom walls? wtf? Somebody's jealous.

[Sharmai]

Originally Posted by brekk

a woman's right to have the baby even if it kills her?

Your talking about something of substance. A specific value of women's rights. She won't go into details other then things which relate directly to her family and personal experience. She can't go into her labor because of the controversy surrounding her behavior, for example.

Shes going to say something along the lines of "because I am a women just like you i am going to stand up for our rights just like you!" which completely ignores the fact that shes staunchly pro-life (which she won't mention). She will repeat that statement in about a dozen different flavors.


Her speech tonight will have almost nil in actual substance because frankly there isn't any. I know this sounds like an IRB right now but seriously there really isn't. All these talk about executive experience is nice but no one can name a single executive decision shes made. Not a single one. Further the comparison of her governorship of 9,000 people to a small town is completely valid. Not having had to deal with state taxes is further valid. Arguments all completely misdirected and downplayed by people who don't want them discussed.

Her two claims to fame are fighting corruption amoung her relatively small state and selling a plane on ebay. She has jack all for substance.

Tonight is all about appeals to emotion and appeals to pity + women's rights + fight corruption.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

Originally Posted by Yutnopash

So we can probably expect to hear; Hockey Mom, Bridge to Nowhere, Fought Corruption, Mother of 5 within the first 5 minutes.

• I have a son in the military.
• I am wearing a flag pin.
• Unlike Democrats I love my country.
• I want to win in Iraq. Go Team! Give me a "U"! Give me a "S"! Give me a "A"! What does that spell? Yeh!
• Hillary is great! I love Hillary! Jesus was a woman and she is Hillary.
• The Liberal media is mean to me. They were mean to Hillary.
• 18 million cracks. 18 million cracks!
• Mooseburgers
• Did I mention McCain was a POW.

I am sure they have had time to give the Republican playbook to her by now. The only difference is that Hillary will be celebrated tonight more than Ronald Reagan.

[Leto Eu`Acumen]

I will buy a beer for the first person to ask Senator McCain about this in front of a camera:

McCain had criticized earmarks from Palin - Los Angeles Times

Three times in recent years, McCain's catalogs of "objectionable" spending have included earmarks for this small Alaska town, requested by its mayor at the time -- Sarah Palin.

In 2001, McCain's list of spending that had been approved without the normal budget scrutiny included a $500,000 earmark for a public transportation project in Wasilla. The Arizona senator targeted $1 million in a 2002 spending bill for an emergency communications center in town -- one that local law enforcement has said is redundant and creates confusion.

McCain also criticized $450,000 set aside for an agricultural processing facility in Wasilla that was requested during Palin's tenure as mayor and cleared Congress soon after she left office in 2002. The funding was provided to help direct locally grown produce to schools, prisons and other government institutions, according to Taxpayers for Common Sense, a nonpartisan watchdog group.

Wasilla received $11.9 million in earmarks from 2000 to 2003.

[Etoille]

Originally Posted by I'm Rich Bitch

• I have a son in the military.
• I am wearing a flag pin.
• Unlike Democrats I love my country.
• I want to win in Iraq. Go Team! Give me a "U"! Give me a "S"! Give me a "A"! What does that spell? Yeh!
• Hillary is great! I love Hillary! Jesus was a woman and she is Hillary.
• The Liberal media is mean to me. They were mean to Hillary.
• 18 million cracks. 18 million cracks!
• Mooseburgers
• Did I mention McCain was a POW.

I am sure they have had time to give the Republican playbook to her by now. The only difference is that Hillary will be celebrated tonight more than Ronald Reagan.

hey uh IRB i dont think she can exactly say I love Hillary as much as you think.

Palins on record as calling Hillary a whiner.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

2 more Conservatives weigh in on Palin pick:

Dr. Laura

I am extremely disappointed in the choice of Sarah Palin as the Vice Presidential candidate of the Republican Party. I’m stunned - couldn’t the Republican Party find one competent female with adult children to run for Vice President with McCain? I realize his advisors probably didn’t want a “mature” woman, as the Democrats keep harping on his age. But really, what kind of role model is a woman whose fifth child was recently born with a serious issue, Down Syndrome, and then goes back to the job of Governor within days of the birth?

Child-care facilities are a necessity when mothers and fathers (when they exist at all) are unwilling or incapable of caring for their offspring. Unfortunately, they have become a mainstay of the feminista mentality that nothing should stand in the way of a woman’s ambition - nothing, including her family.

Source: Dr. Laura

Bill O'Reilly

[Dworkk]

Originally Posted by Etoille

hey uh IRB i dont think she can exactly say I love Hillary as much as you think.

Palins on record as calling Hillary a whiner.

from the above link. She is a MILF therefor she can flip flop all she wants.

In the nationally televised speech, she stood by McCain and said, "I've championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. In fact, I told Congress thanks, but no thanks, on that bridge to nowhere. If our state wanted a bridge, I said, we'd build it ourselves."

However, as a candidate for governor in 2006, Palin had backed funding for the bridge. After her election, she killed the much-ridiculed project when it became clear the state had other priorities. She said she would use the federal funds to fill those needs.

[Etoille]

Originally Posted by Leto Eu`Acumen

I will buy a beer for the first person to ask Senator McCain about this in front of a camera:

McCain had criticized earmarks from Palin - Los Angeles Times

+ the fact that the town was in the green before she got a hold of it and was 20 mil in the red by the time she left....

nail, meet coffin. coffin, nail.

republicans can line allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll the crazy evangelicals up they want.

independents who identify themselves as such are typically MUCH more informed than the average republican or democratic voter.

in a race that was all about the middle, McCains pretty much lost it with this crazy ass pick that destroyed his foreign policy, experience, 'different/outsider', and fiscally responsible/the dems will raise your taxes/earmarks arguments.

[Digits]

Originally Posted by Manseed

Good luck, buddy. This should have been an easy election for you. It's neck and neck because you guys took a huge chance. McCain is not a strong candidate, and we're coming off of the Bush administration's disapproval rating. That's what makes this so good. You should have this wrapped up with no problems, but you don't. That's why it will be so epic when you lose. When you realize that no matter how much you refuse to shower, no matter how much you protest in the streets, no matter how much pot you smoke you stupid fucking hippies don't really matter all that much. Again, good luck, buddy.

I am 18 months out of college and salaried with great benefits and a part of one of the fastest growing companies in America for three years in a year. Take your hippie talking point and get fucked, because I am part of the American business field that is placing this country back into the fray. You don't want to even go into this line of argument with me. Edit: I graduated from college just a little after Palin became governor of Alaska. Let's make that dame president!

We Democrats, paragons of progress that we have always been, have chosen Barack Obama to lead our people into a new era of prosperity. You're right that we made the hard and difficult choice to back Obama. That's what the right choice has always been, difficult. You don't understand that, coming from the party of feel good short sightedness, but you shouldn't fret. The elder and wiser Democrats are here to fix your mistakes and knock you on your ass, just so in 16 years when your party isn't so toxic you can repeat the same host of mistakes.

Go suck another bushel of evangelical dick, because you sure as hell don't have a shot at the white house otherwise.

[Manseed]

Originally Posted by Digits

I am 18 months out of college and salaried with great benefits and a part of one of the fastest growing companies in America for three years in a year. Take your hippie talking point and get fucked, because I am part of the American business field that is placing this country back into the fray. You don't want to even go into this line of argument with me.

I can't wait until you make enough money to turn red. Don't worry, I'll save you a seat here on our side.

[Etoille]

Originally Posted by Manseed

I can't wait until you make enough money to turn red. Don't worry, I'll save you a seat here on our side.

This might actually work better if the republican party was actually fiscally responsible instead of just claiming to be.

Right now the only thing they got going for them in terms of a reason to be pissed when it comes to finances is the tax code.

And Palin isnt even an actual fiscal conservative.

I'll be ready for Romney in 2012.

-woman whos authored NUMEROUS fiscal conservative rants on these boards on issues ranging from mortgages to stimulus checks to funding allocation for public education

[Tuco]

Originally Posted by Manseed

I can't wait until you make enough money to turn red. Don't worry, I'll save you a seat here on our side.

Doesn't Bill Gates support Obama?

[I'm Rich Bitch]

Economy? What Economy?

But the economy is not all; the GOP's last best hope remains identity politics. In a year when the Democrats have an African American presidential nominee, the Republicans now more than ever are the white folks' party, the party that delays the advent of our multicultural future, the party of the American past. Republican conventions have long been bastions of de facto Caucasian exclusivity, but coming right after the diversity of Denver, this year's GOP convention is almost shockingly -- un-Americanly -- white. Long term, this whiteness is a huge problem. This year, however, whiteness is the only way Republicans cling to power. If the election is about the economy, they're cooked -- and their silence this week on nearly all things economic means that they know it.

Hey maybe Palin is an economy guru.