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View Poll Results: Who do you think will win the 2008 Presidential Election?
McCain/Palin 583 33.18%
Obama/Biden 1,131 64.37%
Other 43 2.45%
Voters: 1757. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-03-2008, 12:03 PM   #1816 (permalink)
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God, if only Palin had spent time as a "Community Organizer" or whatever the fuck Obama did. Then she'd have the experience to be in high office. Shit, actually I did some community service for shoplifting when I was a teenager. Manseed 2012.
The "Community Organizer" thing was Hannity's bit from last week. Catch up man. Even Hannity has moved on.

If Palin spent 2 years battling to obtain the nomination of one of the two major political parties instead of a 15 minute "interview" from McCain we would have more respect for her. Your pretty little tramp will be McCain's undoing. I find it funny to see that Conservatives think we are attacking her because we are afraid of her. She is better at bringing down McCain than Lieberman could have ever been. McCain could have won with Lieberman. He would have upset Conservatives but won. McCain chose to satisfy Conservatives and try to get Hillary votes. Big gamble but it is indeed a gamble.

The little tramp better do well on her speech tonight. The world will be watching closely.

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Old 09-03-2008, 12:05 PM   #1817 (permalink)
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Everyone keeps discussing this as, "appeasing the base," why? You don't need to appease them. These people would either vote for McCain or not vote at all, they aren't a risk of swing voting. And frankly all he has to do to motivate them is remind them that if they don't vote Obama will win.
Yes they would have voted for McCain anyway but they would not have done some of the grass roots door-to-door type stuff needed in specific critical districts.
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:11 PM   #1818 (permalink)
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The "Community Organizer" thing was Hannity's bit from last week. Catch up man. Even Hannity has moved on.
I don't watch Hannity.

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If Palin spent 2 years battling to obtain the nomination of one of the two major political parties instead of a 15 minute "interview" from McCain we would have more respect for her. Your pretty little tramp will be McCain's undoing. I find it funny to think that Conservatives thing we are attacking her because we are afraid of her. She is better than Lieberman could have ever been. McCain could have won with Lieberman. He would have upset Conservatives but won. McCain chose to satisfy Conservatives and try to get Hillary votes. Big gamble but it is indeed a gamble.
I've said it before, but this right here is the gold. Watching someone lose who is so emotionally invested in something is reason enough to register Republican. There will be nothing more satisfying than taking this 'historic election' away from the Democrats.
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:12 PM   #1819 (permalink)
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The base's on either side don't change they're votes. They aren't the people Obama and McCain need to address and focus on. The middle 20%(or however many it is) are. More than anything else this is why Palin was a poor pick.
Base voters may not change their votes, but if they're disgusted enough with their own candidates, they may just not show up. Or rather, if their candidate is so shit hot with a certain demographic that normally has very low turnouts, it can really help them out (youths and Obama).

At least that's my understanding.
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:13 PM   #1820 (permalink)
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Re: Clark's comments on McCain.
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Which was one of the most honest and logical arguments of the entire campaign, but was destroyed by media and spin.
Which were also disavowed by spineless democrats (including Obama's campaign), further facilitating the media spin against, and dismissal of, Gen. Wesley Clark.

Now Obama gets to deal with the disturbingly effective "noun, a verb, and P.O.W." spiel every time McCain answers a difficult question (e.g. infidelity, estates, age).
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:16 PM   #1821 (permalink)
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Watching someone lose who is so emotionally invested in something is reason enough to register Republican.
Republicans drop in voting rolls in many U.S. states
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:17 PM   #1822 (permalink)
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Well as i see it McCain made a split second temper decision that backfired.

By picking Palin he has pissed off Hilary's supporters by putting up a beauty queen who is very obviously under qualified and was not selected by the people, pissed off his base by not picking one of the conservatives they wanted, pissed off independents by picking someone that goes against everything he has been saying.

Now of these 3 Palin has a chance to redeem herself tonight with all of them with a mind-blowing speech that appeals to emotion.

If she can pull an Obama and turn all this hype and negative publicity into love and happy smiles then McCain will see a big boost out of the convention. So thats why I'm waiting till her speech tonight to see just how good her speech writer is.
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I'd elaborate on what I said since you obviously took it wrong, but I don't believe that you're stupid enough to not get what I was saying. The very next sentence qualifies the statement.

I see now. You're one of those people that looks for reasons to be offended. It must be frustrating to go through life like that.
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:24 PM   #1823 (permalink)
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So thats why I'm waiting till her speech tonight to see just how good her speech writer is.
Indeed - Her speech tonight was written by a guy named Matt Scully.

Palin tries to silence media storm in debut | U.S. | Reuters

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Old 09-03-2008, 12:26 PM   #1824 (permalink)
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So we can probably expect to hear; Hockey Mom, Bridge to Nowhere, Fought Corruption, Mother of 5 within the first 5 minutes.
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:27 PM   #1825 (permalink)
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Her speech in Ohio was ok but it was anywhere near enough to close the flood waters. He's going to have to write the best speech he has ever written invoking womens rights and I love america's like its going out of style.

Oh she won't go into bridge to nowhere but there will be many appeals to emotion and appeals to pity. She is defintely going to play up her fight against corruption (no wonder they are making so many efforts to stop that investigation).

She won't say jack about foreign policy.
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I see now. You're one of those people that looks for reasons to be offended. It must be frustrating to go through life like that.

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Which were also disavowed by spineless democrats (including Obama's campaign), further facilitating the media spin against, and dismissal of, Gen. Wesley Clark.
They had to back away from him. Republican's turned a very valid point about his military experience into an attack on soldiers.

And in politics today Soldiers are right up their with Children.

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Old 09-03-2008, 12:41 PM   #1827 (permalink)
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I've said it before, but this right here is the gold. Watching someone lose who is so emotionally invested in something is reason enough to register Republican. There will be nothing more satisfying than taking this 'historic election' away from the Democrats.
There will be nothing more satisfying than dismantling the entirety of the GOP power structure after their absolute rule of the government showed how inept and incompetent they truly are. How does it feel knowing that your party is in such disarray and of poor quality that an inexperienced black man named Hussein is able to challenge the mighty White War Hero?

The worst thing to ever happen to the Republican party is winning an election. They should just stick to sucking black dick through bathroom walls, getting DUIs for themselves and their family, and running small towns into bankruptcy.

Edit: Oh, and not being able to pilot jet planes and graduating 5th from the bottom of a class of 800. Pubbies are really good at all this sort of shit, so they should be plenty occupied fucking up everything other than my federal government.

Also, anyone point out that Obama has a new floor for his support at 48 support with a ceiling of 51, whereas McCain has a floor of 42 and a ceiling of 45? Best Election ever.
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:44 PM   #1828 (permalink)
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If her speech is not up to par tonight the people that will be upset the most will be women. They have the most to lose from this travesty. Hillary elevated women past being a woman running for President. Hillary became a Presidential candidate who happened to be a woman. This chick can take that all away.

It is as if Obama had lost and McCain picked Al Sharpton as VP. In that case what Obama had accomplished would not mean shit.

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Lol @ Bill First on msnbc...

I think the American people will cut her some slack about some issues she doesn't know about.
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So we can probably expect to hear; Hockey Mom, Bridge to Nowhere, Fought Corruption, Mother of 5 within the first 5 minutes.
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