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Old 07-18-2008, 09:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Proved: There is no climate crisis

Major paper shows CO2’s effect on temperature was overstated 500-2000%.
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WASHINGTON (7-15-08) - Mathematical proof that there is no “climate crisis” appears today in a major, peer-reviewed paper in Physics and Society, a learned journal of the 46,000-strong American Physical Society, SPPI reports.

Christopher Monckton, who once advised Margaret Thatcher, demonstrates via 30 equations that computer models used by the UN’s climate panel (IPCC) were pre-programmed with overstated values for the three variables whose product is “climate sensitivity” (temperature increase in response to greenhouse-gas increase), resulting in a 500-2000% overstatement of CO2’s effect on temperature in the IPCC’s latest climate assessment report, published in 2007.

Climate Sensitivity Reconsidered demonstrates that later this century a doubling of the concentration of CO2 compared with pre-industrial levels will increase global mean surface temperature not by the 6 °F predicted by the IPCC but, harmlessly, by little more than 1 °F. Lord Monckton concludes – “… Perhaps real-world climate sensitivity is very much below the IPCC’s estimates. Perhaps, therefore, there is no ‘climate crisis’ at all. … The correct policy approach to a non-problem is to have the courage to do nothing.”

Larry Gould, Professor of Physics at the University of Hartford and Chair (2004) of the New England Section of the American Physical Society (APS), has been studying climate-change science for four years. He said: “I was impressed by an hour-long academic lecture which criticized claims about ‘global warming’ and explained the implications of the physics of radiative transfer for climate change. I was pleased that the audience responded to the informative presentation with a prolonged, standing ovation. That is what happened when, at the invitation of the President of our University, Christopher Monckton lectured here in Hartford this spring. I am delighted that Physics and Society, an APS journal, has published his detailed paper refining and reporting his important and revealing results.
“To me the value of this paper lies in its dispassionate but ruthlessly clear exposition – or, rather, exposé – of the IPCC’s method of evaluating climate sensitivity. The detailed arguments in this paper, and, indeed, in a large number of other scientific papers, point up extensive errors, including numerous projection errors of climate models, as well as misleading statements by the IPCC. Consequently, there are no rational grounds for believing either the IPCC or any other claims of dangerous anthropogenic ‘global warming’.”

Lord Monckton’s paper reveals that –

- The IPCC’s 2007 climate summary overstated CO2’s impact on temperature by 500-2000%;
- CO2 enrichment will add little more than 1 °F (0.6 °C) to global mean surface temperature by 2100;
- Not one of the three key variables whose product is climate sensitivity can be measured directly;
- The IPCC’s values for these key variables are taken from only four published papers, not 2,500;
- The IPCC’s values for each of the three variables, and hence for climate sensitivity, are overstated;
- “Global warming” halted ten years ago, and surface temperature has been falling for seven years;
- Not one of the computer models relied upon by the IPCC predicted so long and rapid a cooling;
- The IPCC inserted a table into the scientists’ draft, overstating the effect of ice-melt by 1000%;
- It was proved 50 years ago that predicting climate more than two weeks ahead is impossible;
- Mars, Jupiter, Neptune’s largest moon, and Pluto warmed at the same time as Earth warmed;
- In the past 70 years the Sun was more active than at almost any other time in the past 11,400 years.
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Christopher Monckton is a former journalist and current wingnut who is not certified as any sort of legitimate scientist or physicist, has had no formal training in any scientific field, and who has been at this sort of stuff for years now. He's also advocated concentration camps for AIDS patients, has been involved in various business scams and scandals, and is an all-around wackjob. He is basically the British equivalent of Pat Buchanan.

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Old 07-18-2008, 09:24 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Christopher Monckton is a former journalist and current wingnut who is not certified as any sort of legitimate scientist or physicist, has had no formal training in any scientific field, and who has been at this sort of stuff for years now. He's also advocated concentration camps for AIDS patients, has been involved in various business scams and scandals, and is an all-around wackjob. He is basically the British equivalent of Pat Buchanan.

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Old 07-18-2008, 09:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:39 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:40 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Christopher Monckton is a former journalist and current wingnut who is not certified as any sort of legitimate scientist or physicist, has had no formal training in any scientific field, and who has been at this sort of stuff for years now. He's also advocated concentration camps for AIDS patients, has been involved in various business scams and scandals, and is an all-around wackjob. He is basically the British equivalent of Pat Buchanan.

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Are his equations correct, though? I'm not discounting his lunacy, which you have pointed out, but if the math and science is good....
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:42 AM   #8 (permalink)
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The guys article is in a newsletter for APS and is not a peer reviewed publication. He may be right or wrong, but when the first line in the above quoted article is so wrong it doesn't bode well for my interest.
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:45 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Wrong.

Only way to argue with math is with more math. Someone disprove him. No one cares about his political views or personal life. If the math is correct, it speaks for itself.
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:46 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:53 AM   #11 (permalink)
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If you believe that, then I feel sorry for you. Mainly because the proof has little to do with math and everything to do with LOOKING WITH YOUR EYES. Aside from the various mountain ranges and glaciers WORLD WIDE that are dissipating into nothingness theres also the fact of world wide storms of catastrophic proportions in a greater magnitude and quantity then ever before. Theres also the fact that all of this is rather recent as it was brought out upon by the industrial revolution which too is rather recent, making it very unlikely that it's mere coincidence.

The fact that ozone layers are visibly diminishing specifically over highly industrial areas where CO2 emissions(among other things) are in extreme abundance is proof of the damage that HUMANS are doing. If he thinks it's just some random coincidence then every he and every other "scientist" who agrees are simply morons and should be banned from practicing science.

CO2 isn't the only thing being released in the air so that study might as well be toilet paper. Like always, the logic and thoughts and conclusions are filled with gaping holes and various unanswered and unsought after questions. How about the damage done to our atmosphere which is in return allowing more UV and other sun/space related radiation to enter which then becomes trapped and spreads around the entire planet. I'm sure this could have something to do with drastic temperature fluctuations.

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Old 07-18-2008, 09:55 AM   #12 (permalink)
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You have bought into the Jewish conspiracy of global warming Lumie, THEY HAVE FOOLED YOU. Its all a plot to spend more money on bagels.
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:55 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:55 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Hey, Lumie believes in something that isnt batshit insane.
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:58 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Climactic change happens all the time throughout Earth's history. Hell, there was an "Ice Age" that ended only 10,000 years ago, which is pretty recent on the Earth's time scale. There was a global warming to end that Ice Age.

While we are undoubtedly polluting the Earth to some degree, this doomsday stuff about causing massive, irreversible damage to the environment is blown way out of proportion.
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