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Phoenix · 06-21-2008, 03:50 PM

Fucking shill.

Darus Grey · 06-21-2008, 10:39 PM

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Oh I would like to see Nvidia release a 55nm 280GTX anytime soon (within the next 3 months). I would fucking laugh.

I'm thinking this is very likely ;0

Intrinsic · 06-22-2008, 01:42 PM

Is the UltraSharp 2408WFP still pretty top for 24" screens? Was also looking at a couple of the NECs. Someone had a link a while back to a messageboard that kept a running list of LCD technologies and reviews / issues of new panels. It had a list of top 10 for business, gaming, and publishing. Can't find it anymore though.

The Dauntless One · 06-22-2008, 03:24 PM

Not sure about that exact model, but if you're buying a 24 inch, go for a model with the S-PVA panel.

Senen · 06-22-2008, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dauntless One

And the graphs from Anandtech clearly show the 4850 is superior to the 9800GTX. The 9800GTX+ SHOULD be a step ahead of the 4850 to justify the 30 dollars. I'll wait for Anandtech to do a full 9800GTX+ review to see if the 9800GTX+ is actually worth the extra 30 dollars as I don't trust the graphs you linked. Anand benched Bioshock and the 4850 destroyed all competition (except the 280 and 9800GX2) while the graph you linked showed the 9800GTX being 5 FPS higher.

Oh I would like to see Nvidia release a 55nm 280GTX anytime soon (within the next 3 months). I would fucking laugh.

I saw some stuff on Anandtech and everything I've seen shows the 4850 as nothing more then a mid range card. Doesn't realy matter though if your realy into gaming as most of the folks on these forums I'd just assume your an Nvidia user. Right now most PC games are built around Nvidia performance factors, and its pretty clear ATI/AMD has pulled out of the high end video card market.

PerritoBites · 06-23-2008, 11:45 AM

Hopefully someone can help me with the problem I have...

My motherboard died a couple of weeks ago. Everything was running fine, but it had problems powering up. My AoC would run at 40fps and I would never lag on TF2. I RMAed my motherboard and got a different motherboard, but the same brand/type/etc. Now I just plugged back in as a replace to the old one.

I have problems running games now... I tried running AoC and it told me I didn't have the best drivers... I tried playing AoC and TF2 and I was getting horrible FPS... in AoC it wen't down to 8fps, which is what I get on my laptop! On TF2 I get massive lag when there is more than 3 people around me. I tried installing the latest drivers, but when I tried playing I got blue screens of death! I reverted back to old drivers and re-installed the latest again... this time it seemed to work.... But my FPS are still crap.

What can I do to fix this?

Zeitgeist · 06-23-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dauntless One

Not sure about that exact model, but if you're buying a 24 inch, go for a model with the S-PVA panel.

Since I have been reading up on monitors of all sizes.... what is actually the better panel: S-PVA or [H|S]-IPS ?

ChewieTobbacca · 06-23-2008, 01:38 PM

H/S-IPS is still the best I believe with S-PVA and other PVA models being next and TN being crap

I <3 my 3007WFP-HC!

The Dauntless One · 06-23-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Senen

I saw some stuff on Anandtech and everything I've seen shows the 4850 as nothing more then a mid range card. Doesn't realy matter though if your realy into gaming as most of the folks on these forums I'd just assume your an Nvidia user. Right now most PC games are built around Nvidia performance factors, and its pretty clear ATI/AMD has pulled out of the high end video card market.

I did not say the 4850 is a high end graphics card. All I'm saying is it provides better overall performance than the 9800GTX and a very sweet price point. If you think PC gaming is revolving around Nvidia performance than you're totally wrong. It's why PC gaming is dying. Like I said earlier, I'm glad AMD is doing what they're doing. They are pulling down prices by being extremely competitive in the mid-range market. We wouldn't have seen the massive price drops on the 9800GTX if the 4850 performed like shit.

The Dauntless One · 06-23-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeraton

Since I have been reading up on monitors of all sizes.... what is actually the better panel: S-PVA or [H|S]-IPS ?

Thin film transistor liquid crystal display - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

EDIT: whoops Chewie already answered your question.

Sean · 06-23-2008, 01:48 PM

Heh, official price now is 199 for the 9800GTX and 229 for the 9800GTX+.

Lyenae · 06-23-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PerritoBites

Hopefully someone can help me with the problem I have...

What can I do to fix this?

I suggest you reinstall chipset drivers.

irronn · 06-23-2008, 07:08 PM

Hey Im a long time forum reader, and I am interested in either building or buying a premade new gaming desktop, and I figured this would be the place to come to. Im currently using an older laptop to play AoC, and its becoming to much to handle.

I have been out of the loop for too long. I've put together 2 computers before, but im afraid of choosing parts that just dont go together or that suck if i do it myself now.

So Im looking to spend a little over $1000. I already have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speaker system so i dont need that included.

If anyone could list me the parts that would be good for such a machine, that would be great. I would want the computer to be able to run the new 280 GTX card without bottlenecks, even though that might not be the card i get now (unless that could be squeezed into this price range of a comp).

Hard drive space, Pretty case, are not priorities. I'm looking for the most FPS for the buck.

If anyone will help, Thanks much.

PerritoBites · 06-23-2008, 07:48 PM

Meh... now my DVD room reads CDs, but not DVDs....

Any suggestions for fixing this?

I tried uninstalling it from the Device Manager and restarting comp (for some reason that doesn't do anything)
I also tried flashing the latest drivers

Senen · 06-24-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dauntless One

I did not say the 4850 is a high end graphics card. All I'm saying is it provides better overall performance than the 9800GTX and a very sweet price point. If you think PC gaming is revolving around Nvidia performance than you're totally wrong. It's why PC gaming is dying. Like I said earlier, I'm glad AMD is doing what they're doing. They are pulling down prices by being extremely competitive in the mid-range market. We wouldn't have seen the massive price drops on the 9800GTX if the 4850 performed like shit.

See this is where your wrong better performance on a benchmark by a few fps vs a game that doesn't support ATI products is what I'm talking about. Almost every MMo currently on the market is supported by Nvidia you know that logo when you log in that says " The way its meant to be played". That tells me one thing that the devs work the code in favor of Nvidia cards putting ATI/AMD products behind the 8 ball. I'll agree if price is your only factor go buy an ATI ,but don't be suprised that the 9800gtx out performs it in games that are pro Nvidia.

06-22-2008, 01:42 PM	#48 (permalink)
Intrinsic is More and Faster Join Date: May 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 379 -1 Internets	Is the UltraSharp 2408WFP still pretty top for 24" screens? Was also looking at a couple of the NECs. Someone had a link a while back to a messageboard that kept a running list of LCD technologies and reviews / issues of new panels. It had a list of top 10 for business, gaming, and publishing. Can't find it anymore though. __________________

06-23-2008, 01:48 PM	#56 (permalink)
Sean Fires of Heaven Officer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 5,099 +17 Internets	Heh, official price now is 199 for the 9800GTX and 229 for the 9800GTX+. __________________

06-23-2008, 07:08 PM	#58 (permalink)
irronn Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16 -2 Internets	Hey Im a long time forum reader, and I am interested in either building or buying a premade new gaming desktop, and I figured this would be the place to come to. Im currently using an older laptop to play AoC, and its becoming to much to handle. I have been out of the loop for too long. I've put together 2 computers before, but im afraid of choosing parts that just dont go together or that suck if i do it myself now. So Im looking to spend a little over $1000. I already have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speaker system so i dont need that included. If anyone could list me the parts that would be good for such a machine, that would be great. I would want the computer to be able to run the new 280 GTX card without bottlenecks, even though that might not be the card i get now (unless that could be squeezed into this price range of a comp). Hard drive space, Pretty case, are not priorities. I'm looking for the most FPS for the buck. If anyone will help, Thanks much. Last edited by irronn : 06-23-2008 at 07:11 PM.

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06-22-2008, 03:24 PM	#49 (permalink)
The Dauntless One Flaccid Steel Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,468 -11 Internets	Not sure about that exact model, but if you're buying a 24 inch, go for a model with the S-PVA panel.

06-23-2008, 01:38 PM	#53 (permalink)
ChewieTobbacca the Enchanter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,565	H/S-IPS is still the best I believe with S-PVA and other PVA models being next and TN being crap I <3 my 3007WFP-HC!