Water Powered Car - thank you Japan!

[Gurgeh]

Originally Posted by GrobbeeTrull2.0

I think I'd be willing to accept sea water and a loss of efficiency for non-dependence on oil.

Hydrogen would be produced in the desert (solar generator turning water into hydrogen) ! So we'd still be dependent on the middle-east !

Jokes aside, batteries are already extremely expensive, it's a large part of the cost of an electrical car, even if batteries are more efficient than hydrogen is it even possible to manufacture enough of those ? On the other hand if there's no shortage of hydrogen and if it's possible to produce 100% clean hydrogen, it's still highly dangerous to manipulate it, a lot more dangerous than a regular gaz tank (it's invisible, you can't smell it and the best is that even when it's burning you can't see it and particlles are so small that they will leak from almost anything).

[Phoenix]

Hydrogen itself is a very poor choice as a combustible compared to gasoline.

Now, if we had a liquid metallic hydrogen powered car, that would be something.

[Quineloe]

Originally Posted by Sharmai

Ford GM are you scared yet?

Why should they be, they could simply build their own water cars. If anyone needs to be scared it's the sand nigger oil mafia.

[Arbitrary]

I don't know, suing the state of California because they want to put in stiffer regulations on mileage reeks of fear. I think American auto companies took all their SUV profits from the last decade and bought hookers and blow.

[Zarcath]

Originally Posted by Quineloe

Why should they be, they could simply build their own water cars. If anyone needs to be scared it's the sand nigger oil mafia.

why? are we suddenly building cars with water and using water as engine lubricant?

[Gauss]

Originally Posted by guy

It isn't energy that is the issue, it is energy storage.

Yes that is the issue.

Even if the conversation rate blows what we need is a means to power vehicles through domestic production. A means to transfer electricity into car fuel is instantly interesting because we can generate surplus power. We cannot generate surplus oil.

Where are you getting this notion from that the invention in this article is somehow related to that? From the article, ""The car will continue to run as long as you have a bottle of water to top up from time to time". It's still using some sort of energy source while driving to convert the water to mechanical work. From the sounds on the video, it sounds like something is combusting.

Originally Posted by other guy

God damnit, the electrolysing doesn't happen while driving. It happens when you're "charging" the vehicle so you won't really been doing it unless you're home. Your car isn't really running on the goddamn water as people have pointed out.

What's the point of periodically adding more water in then (per the article) if all the work is being done at home?
On one hand people are trying to make the argument that this eliminates heavy batteries, but on the other hand people are saying all the work is done at home, implying that some sort of storage is needed to hold the energy in its intermediate form until it's ready to use.

My conclusion is nobody knows what the fuck this actually is.

[voodoochile78]

Originally Posted by Quineloe

Why should they be, they could simply build their own water cars. If anyone needs to be scared it's the sand nigger oil mafia.

American car manufacturers haven't even figured out this whole hybrid thing yet. I see more Toyota Prius and Honda Civic hybrids on the road than any other car. Where is the U.S. answer to that? More Suburbans and Expeditions?

[Astrocreep]

eventually the Big 3 will be bought out by either Honda or Toyota and everything on the road will be one or 2 cars. just like the USSR with Trabants.

[Lenas]

We should all do this and combat the rising ocean levels!

[kedwyn]

You can't compare an emerging tech to an old tech that has been powering Auto's for a hundred years. Naturally the efficiency isn't going to be the same or as convenient right out of the gate. If it was we'd all be using it instead of filling our tanks for $4/ gal.

It takes years / decades for shit like this to get better and better until its feasible for mass use. Its a good start. Nasa has been using fuel cells for like 30 years now, now that there is private interest to develop this and economic need its going to take off.

There is just way too much money involved for it not too. Not too mention global competition as Chevy, Ford and Dodge are finding out the hard way.

[kedwyn]

I forgot to add, we need to start building nuclear power plants like right now. The power grid in many areas is at capacity as is, much less when everyone starts plugging in their electric / fuel cell cars at night.

We shouldn't give up on other alternatives but we need constant power and we are going to need a shit load more of it really soon.

Unfortunately Congress is too busy bickering as usual to get any real work done.

[Menoz]

No congressman wants the shitstorm that will occur if a nuclear plant is built in their district. It's political suicide. And yes, they need to be built, and built with some haste.

[Mkopec1]

Originally Posted by voodoochile78

American car manufacturers haven't even figured out this whole hybrid thing yet. I see more Toyota Prius and Honda Civic hybrids on the road than any other car. Where is the U.S. answer to that? More Suburbans and Expeditions?

You fucking hippies are idiots. They made their fist hybrids back in the 90s but no one wanted them except a few of you faggots (NO MARKET). They were making Suburbans and Expeditions F150's because thats what people were buying. Believe it or not.

Hybrids are still a blip on the overall car market. Even with the $4/gal gas.

[earthfell]

Originally Posted by Mkopec1

You fucking hippies are idiots. They made their fist hybrids back in the 90s but no one wanted them except a few of you faggots (NO MARKET). They were making Suburbans and Expeditions F150's because thats what people were buying. Believe it or not.

Hybrids are still a blip on the overall car market. Even with the $4/gal gas.

My dad would always buy ford and dodge pickups. In 2003 he leased a brand new dodge ram. I told him american cars were garbage and that he made a mistake. Last year it broke down on the freeway. Not sure what he was thinking when he had to switch to my 1992 honda accord with 260,000 miles on it and still running strong. Or, when my brothers brand new taurus' transmission went out and HE had to switch to my 92 honda accord with 260,000 miles.

and this was after my honda had been near totaled and repaired.

just thought id share. american car companies cant even make reliable cars, how could they have pioneered hybrids?

[Gauss]

Originally Posted by kedwyn

I forgot to add, we need to start building nuclear power plants like right now. The power grid in many areas is at capacity as is, much less when everyone starts plugging in their electric / fuel cell cars at night.

I'm not even sure how long the supply of Uranium we have would last if we used it for more of our purposes such as powering our electric cars. I linked a past show of Michio Kaku's Explorations that dealt with alternative energy among other things, and one of his guests, a caltech professor, suggested that if we were to use Nuclear for all of our current energy needs we would run out of Uranium in 20 years. On the other hand, he claimed if we could harness fusion power that we would have basically infinite energy.

Edit: Link to the show, incase people missed it last time because the same topics keep popping up. Explorations for Tuesday, May 27th, 2008