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Old 05-21-2008, 02:14 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I know you're gonna whine and bitch about my opinion, but it isn't going to change. When a celebrity puts their face on a tragedy they are buying something. When they give money like that they are buying something. The only way that isn't true is if they do it with complete secrecy.

And yes, if a celebrity puts themselves in the public eye for a particular cause I do expect them to give everything they possibly can if they're going to ask others to give money. Why are they special? They can't live like 99% of us? They need multi-millions sitting in the bank because it's necessary to their survival? You can't pretend to care about people in these situations and then go back to your cozy mansion.
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Old 05-21-2008, 02:25 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Yes every action at its root has a self serving motivation. Let us drape ourselves in velvet cloaks and cut upon our arms.
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Old 05-21-2008, 02:32 PM   #48 (permalink)
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How I feel about it just won't fly in a country like the usa. Most of us have been taught that it's morally okay to mass up lots of wealth and keep it for yourself, regardless of how it effects others. It bothers me a lot to see people who have that kind of wealth ask others to give when they themselves haven't sacrificed anything.

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Old 05-21-2008, 02:34 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Doesn't matter why they are still doing it.



Yes they are still giving their material wealth to the needy. Those heartless fucks.

EDIT: nice ninja edit.

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Old 05-21-2008, 02:40 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Yes they are still giving their material wealth to the needy. Those heartless fucks.

EDIT: nice ninja edit.
nothing ninja about it, just decided to word what i'm saying differently

it's hard to get a point like this across when people firmly believe that hoarding while others suffer is fine

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Old 05-21-2008, 02:57 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Kolle,

So you're saying that there should be mandatory forfeiture of money in the name of charity? Do that, and there wont be money for charity.

Think on it.

Do you have a cell phone? A TV? Cable TV service? A vehicle? Any other luxury items like a computer? I'm expecting you to sell it all and give the money to charity cuz there are HUNGRY PEOPLE OUT THERE. How fucking dare you let people suffer and go hungry, while you are all smug with a roof over your head typing on an internet messageboard.

Go save them. Go, do it.
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:00 PM   #52 (permalink)
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nothing ninja about it, just decided to word what i'm saying differently

it's hard to get a point like this across when people firmly believe that hoarding while others suffer is fine
More ninja edit pls. And i assure you people would still "suffer" regardless of material wealth. You have a very materialistic view of the world for someone who decries it so.
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:02 PM   #53 (permalink)
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You guys act as if the US hasn't been through ups or downs. Yes, the most notable situation is the economic situation, but then again thank god economics is a circular working kinda thing, you know?

PS: Fuck China, I don't think they're a threat. China can produce shit for the whole world, the whole world can't produce shit for all of China. Imo.
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:03 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I know you're gonna whine and bitch about my opinion, but it isn't going to change. When a celebrity puts their face on a tragedy they are buying something. When they give money like that they are buying something. The only way that isn't true is if they do it with complete secrecy.
And if they do it in secrecy then they are still buying self satisfaction.

You know, there is a point in life when most everyone is very cynical. We think we know the world in some deep philosophical way and that everyone else is just a cretin moron. However, for most of us we grow out of this when we are 15.

But not everyone.
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:09 PM   #55 (permalink)
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And if they do it in secrecy then they are still buying self satisfaction.

You know, there is a point in life when most everyone is very cynical. We think we know the world in some deep philosophical way and that everyone else is just a cretin moron. However, for most of us we grow out of this when we are 15.

But not everyone.
i'm not referring to satisfaction in terms of what they buy. what they buy is no different than a shop buying supplies for it's main dish/sales item/whatever. doesn't have much to do with being cynical. what pisses me off most are the ones who ask for money while sitting on many millions.

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So you're saying that there should be mandatory forfeiture of money in the name of charity?
nope

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Old 05-21-2008, 03:24 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Kolle, are you trying to tell me the millions of Americans who piss money away on stupid shit like edible women's panties, new sticks of RAM, and spinning rims couldn't throw a few bucks at China? I agree that its annoying when these celebrities start lobbying for money, but your argument has tanked pretty quickly.
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:37 PM   #57 (permalink)
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He is saying the when the wealthy donate money/time to a cause its not valid since their resources are so extensive. But im sure he has no problem wasting money on cable,internet,cellphones and fast food while people starve.

When a famous person donates their face and time they are in essence donating millions of dollars to a cause. They are using the resource of their fame as a tool to help charities. And i promise they donate far more fucking time than yourself so calling them out seems petulant and stupid.
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Old 05-21-2008, 04:20 PM   #58 (permalink)
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I would love to see Kolle panhandle. Every time someone put a dollar in his hat he'd yell, "Fuck you."
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Old 05-21-2008, 04:57 PM   #59 (permalink)
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you're having a lot of trouble grasping what i'm saying. putting words in my mouth isn't getting you anywhere. but please, keep insulting me.
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Old 05-21-2008, 04:57 PM   #60 (permalink)
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you're having a lot of trouble grasping what i'm saying. putting words in my mouth isn't getting you anywhere.
Edit your responses a few more times and maybe we will figure it out.

Edit: thanks
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