China Earthquake pictures

[Kaosu]

Originally Posted by krozman

You have to forgive us, but the american perception is that when Americans need something, the world offers not. But when something else happens in the the world, the U.S. is given shit for not sending aid that will plunge us further into debt.

The fact remains, that if the world was nearly as generous as the U.S., the U.S. wouldn't be so jaded about "a few dollars" everytime something bad happens.

So forgive me, if I don't cry a fucking tear for you losing your friend or 55,000 other chinamen, because if the roles were reversed, Chinamen could give a fuck about us. Thats the truth because thats the perception, so don't give me some self righteous bullshit about how it's "not true." Where the fuck was China when the U.S. was in need. Oh wait, nowhere, because China is too fucking busy streamlining their cities to topple over the first time a natural disaster hits.

What kind of fucking stupid troll are you? Chinamen?

You have to understand, the Chinese will very rarely, if at any given time, ask for any charity. With the exception of business and economic relations that China has with America - and its a mutual relationship.

And no one helping the U.S? What the fuck are you talking about?

International response to Hurricane Katrina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Heres a 'snippet.' Troll.

Originally Posted by Wikipedia motherfucker

The countries and organizations that offered to send aid as mentioned by the State Department were:

* Afghanistan
* Argentina
* Armenia
* Australia
* Austria
* Azerbaijan
* Bahamas
* Bahrain
* Bangladesh
* Belarus
* Belgium
* Bosnia and Herzegovina
* Canada
* Chile
* People's Republic of China
* Colombia
* Cuba
* the Czech Republic
* Denmark
* Djibouti
* Dominica
* Dominican Republic
* Ecuador
* Egypt
* El Salvador
* the European Union
* Finland
* France
* Gabon
* Georgia
* Germany
* Greece
* Guatemala
* Guyana
* Honduras
* Hungary
* Iceland
* India
* Indonesia
* International Energy Agency
* International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies
* Iran
* Iraq
* Republic of Ireland
* Israel
* Italy
* Jamaica
* Japan
* Jordan
* Kenya
* South Korea
* Kuwait
* Lithuania
* Luxembourg
* Malta
* Mexico
* Mongolia
* NATO
* Nepal
* the Netherlands
* New Zealand
* Nicaragua
* Nigeria
* Norway
* Organization of American States
* Oman
* OPEC
* Pakistan
* Paraguay
* Peru
* the Philippines
* Poland
* Portugal
* Qatar
* Romania
* Russia
* Saudi Arabia
* Singapore
* Slovakia
* Slovenia
* Spain
* Sri Lanka
* Sweden
* Switzerland
* Taiwan (Republic of China)
* Thailand
* Tunisia
* Turkey
* Uganda
* United Arab Emirates
* United Kingdom
* United Nations
* United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees
* Venezuela
* World Health Organization

I'm sorry if I'm shitting on your 'the world hates the U.S, so fuck you guys' parade, but its simply not true.
Hell, you think we did nothing to china and deserve to have them follow us like lost people?

Think: Yinhe Incident, the US bombing the Chinese embassy in Belgrade by mistake in 99'. Also the spy plane air collision incident of April this year.

I'm really not sure 'why' you hate China so much. Got some uncle that was screwed out by a so called Chinamen? Milkman was chinese and fucked your mom?

Show some support evidence to back up your babble.

Edit: As a afterthought, the U.S. does have a lot of unfair criticism levied against it. However, when it comes to many actions that it does do, a lot of countries will indeed come to the aid of U.S. Think U.S. stands alone in 'everything' it does?

[Zarcath]

Asking for help would lose face. It's a cultural thing.

[Eomer]

The fact remains, that if the world was nearly as generous as the U.S., the U.S. wouldn't be so jaded about "a few dollars" everytime something bad happens.

The fact remains that if the world was as "generous" as the US on a percentage of GDP basis, worldwide aid and charitable contributions would absolutely plummet. Numerous countries give several times what the US does, as compared to their total wealth. And yes, it's retarded to compare absolute dollar contributions, as Kolle has (poorly) argued.

[Zarcath]

Originally Posted by Eomer

The fact remains that if the world was as "generous" as the US on a percentage of GDP basis, worldwide aid and charitable contributions would absolutely plummet. Numerous countries give several times what the US does, as compared to their total wealth. And yes, it's retarded to compare absolute dollar contributions, as Kolle has (poorly) argued.

But we're americans, so it should mean more. Countries should feel grateful we deign to shower them with our dropping dollar.

[Vim]

I believe that list is misleading.

Just cause Iran offered something doesn't mean they actually expected it to get accepted or go through with it.

Same goes for most of the "unfriendly" countries.

[Kaosu]

Originally Posted by Vim

I believe that list is misleading.

Just cause Iran offered something doesn't mean they actually expected it to get accepted or go through with it.

Same goes for most of the "unfriendly" countries.

Its not misleading. Its a list from the state department of everyone that allocated and pledged a certain amount of goods/labor/money.

However, 'most' of that stuff in that list was unclaimed, due to political reasons, simply.

However, just because you don't accept help doesn't mean its not there, regardless of the reasons.

[Arbitrary]

We wouldn't accept Cuba's offering of the use of their hurricane rescue teams (who are awesome) and that political gesture probably cost the lives of a few Americans.

The entire mindset is just fucking stupid honestly. If some aid offered by Iran opens up the door for diplomatic relations wouldn't that be a good thing?

I honestly do not understand the "la la la I can't hear you" strategy of international relations.

[krozman]

Originally Posted by Kaosu

What kind of fucking stupid troll are you? Chinamen?

And no one helping the U.S? What the fuck are you talking about?
I'm really not sure 'why' you hate China so much. Got some uncle that was screwed out by a so called Chinamen? Milkman was chinese and fucked your mom?

Show some support evidence to back up your babble.

The evidence I present is the great american popular perception. Americans are frustrated over the fact that their own political leaders can't seem to balance the budget, and then dump billions into countries that will never reciproate. The RESULT, is the general populace that would rather see China crumble into ruin than see their own economy fail.

Maybe when you live in the real world and take care of a family like I do, then maybe you'll learn that representing your own is more important than the general good of mankind. I would easily press a red button destroying all of China if it meant that my family was forever safe, and don't think they wouldn't do the same. It's not fear, it's not anger, it's the reality of survival. I can tell you have the same nieve idealism of any idiot, so I forgive you for your incompetance. I wonder if you got mugged and beat up on the streets, if you would change your perception of this world's reality.

[Regime]

Originally Posted by krozman

The evidence I present is the great american popular perception. Americans are frustrated over the fact that their own political leaders can't seem to balance the budget, and then dump billions into countries that will never reciproate. The RESULT, is the general populace that would rather see China crumble into ruin than see their own economy fail.

Maybe when you live in the real world and take care of a family like I do, then maybe you'll learn that representing your own is more important than the general good of mankind. I would easily press a red button destroying all of China if it meant that my family was forever safe, and don't think they wouldn't do the same. It's not fear, it's not anger, it's the reality of survival. I can tell you have the same nieve idealism of any idiot, so I forgive you for your incompetance. I wonder if you got mugged and beat up on the streets, if you would change your perception of this world's reality.

Jesus christ Kroz you changed from the days of Seb. Fucking Lawyers

Pretty fucked up mindset to believe that "fuck everyone let em die"!

Oh well.

[Rad]

Originally Posted by Regime

Jesus christ Kroz you changed from the days of Seb. Fucking Lawyers

Pretty fucked up mindset to believe that "fuck everyone let em die"!

Oh well.

He still loves us.

[Gryeyes]

Originally Posted by krozman

The RESULT, is the general populace that would rather see China crumble into ruin than see their own economy fail.

Most people who are not partialy retarded are aware the US economy is dependent on china. Wanting to see china fail as a reaction of "survival" is moronic.

Maybe when you live in the real world and take care of a family like I do, then maybe you'll learn that representing your own is more important than the general good of mankind.

I feel sorry for the lives of your children growing up with this kind of parenting. Its this kind of small mindedness thats the problem.

It's not fear, it's not anger, it's the reality of survival. .

Its stupidity nothing else. Trying to mask your ignorance and bias as some form of survival instinct is just precious.

[krozman]

God, stirring the pot in this thread is like kicking the ant pile. I have to confess, I share no ill will on china. I'm not stupid enough to believe that abandoning China is a good thing. I just have an innate desire to fuck with all of you. I'm sooooooo sorry, omg. ;p

This is my place to show hate at the end of my day. Your first mistake was giving legitimacy to my arguments by responding to them.

People do share the views of my previous posts, however, it's not all bullshit.

[Gryeyes]

My aren't you the trickster.

[Kaosu]

Edit: Lots of bullshit. Kroz was either a troll or a idiot. I favored troll and was correct, but I can't help but lure myself into it.

[Vim]

Originally Posted by Kaosu

Its not misleading. Its a list from the state department of everyone that allocated and pledged a certain amount of goods/labor/money.

However, 'most' of that stuff in that list was unclaimed, due to political reasons, simply.

However, just because you don't accept help doesn't mean its not there, regardless of the reasons.

Even if you were right, which I think you aren't. I'm sure most of those countries wouldn't of even bothered if Katrina happened in some smaller, less known country. Especially if it didn't get the media attention like the US did.