China Earthquake pictures

[Tripamang]

Originally Posted by Regime

wow

I think his comment was sarcasm and the 50x value intended...

[Eomer]

Originally Posted by Gryeyes

Its the chinese government creating these beggar ads?

Exactly. While I can see where you're coming from Kolle, I vehemently disagree. First of all it's not China asking for money, it's aid agencies like the Red Cross. Do you think that at the end of all this, they'll saddle up to Hu Jintao with a big bill and be like "hey man, here's the tab. Pay up." No, that's not the way it works. International aid organizations will be spending millions upon this trying to help people out, same way they did for the Indonesian tsunami, Katrina, and so on.

I just really find such an "us and them" mentality incredibly distasteful. Even in the wake of something like Katrina or 9/11, despite the US being the most wealthy and powerful country in the world, numerous countries offered and contributed aid and assistance in the recovery efforts. Maybe the US didn't need it or want it, and maybe those offering it could barely afford to, but it was a nice gesture that appears to have completely bypassed you.

I remember reading a story about some African villagers in the middle of fucking nowhere, that have never even seen a two story building let alone a skyscraper, who had heard of 9/11 and despite barely even comprehending what happened offered their livestock to the US as assistance. They've got virtually no worldly possessions and live a nomadic lifestyle from millenia ago, and yet they were willing to help in any way they could.

If you don't see the problem in your attitude, then there's probably not much I can say to change your mind or opinion.

[Zeste]

Originally Posted by Lucane Darkseraphim

Ignorance.

China has only had about thirty years to get to the state that it currently is in. I am sorry that their standards and priorities are not the exact same as ours. I think we have had a little more time to progress. Lets not forget that China has more problems than just time, including an obscenely large population and large language barriers between their own people.

You blame China for us losing jobs and them owning our debt? Fuck, that is retarded. Zarcath is right when he says it is because of our demand. We caused this problem, they simply gave us what we wanted. They let us live our extravagant lives of overspending and undersaving, how dare them actually request payment for their services! And when a tragedy occurs in their country they most certainly can not ask for help because they took so much money from us !!

And yes, China did ask for help from multiple countries. Some of you all do not read, you'd rather just make up this shit as you go along (or perhaps all you read is CNN).

The only reason people are so indignant towards China is because as a whole, China terrifies the US. The news only focuses on the negatives of China and never, ever writes a single story about the incredible growth in China and how it is every single day improving their lives. Anything people learned in school about China has already drastically changed, so without either living in China or actively reading intelligent news / reading modern books about China they will have no idea what it is actually like.

Ideally when a country economically threatens us, we get motivated to become more creative and productive. However, all we do now is get angry and cry over China's current progress. Instead of as a whole there being a national push towards higher education and a harder work ethic we wallow away in states of declining science related degrees and in depression over the loss of our precious manufacturing careers. The great thing about competition is that it makes people more proactive and leads towards change for the better, however that does nothing for the US when we feel so damn entitled and god damn lazy.

What scares me is that I'll probably die to a chinese bullet, standing in my front yard with a semi-auto M4 trying to defend america from the yellow invasion.

[EtadanikM]

You should've thought of that before you ganked all those gold farmers.

[Regime]

Originally Posted by Tripamang

I think his comment was sarcasm and the 50x value intended...

roger that

[Snugglebear]

I think this may herald a change in direction for China. We already see high party officials rushing out to the earthquake sites to be seen. They are fearing the people. My guess is that several local officials who took bribes will be executed and reforms will slowly start to trickle down. It always takes a horrible tragedy to get governments in gear. The US was no exception during its industrial period (or even today). Something similar to this perhaps:

BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | China food safety head executed

[GrobbeeTrull2.0]

People taking bribes that affect the health and population of the Chinese people being executed isn't new. They did this with a pharmaceutical approval guy a year or two ago.

It makes more sense than re-electing him, in my opinion.

[Usha Starchild]

Originally Posted by Kolle

i'm not blaming the chinese government for that. i'm insulted by the people doing the ads. it's just a gut reaction. their audience are made up mostly of people who send a lot of money to china already. people who don't have tons of extra cash.

i've seen a few. the one i saw right before making that post was by yao ming. i don't know his personal finances, but he can't be poor. if he's gonna ask millions of cash strapped americans for money, then i expect him to give everything he can to the cause as well. somehow i feel he will still have access to quite a bit of money and other personal comforts after the mess from this quake is cleared.

i would blame the government for the poor conditions, however.

Yao ming donated 70k

[Kolle]

yao ming has and will probably forever have anything and everything he needs and wants. 70k is nothing for him. it's not a sacrifice. for millions of americans that are struggling with bills, having to choose between filling the tank or buying food...well asking them for money is just an insult.

meanwhile even after the 70k he'll still have plenty. if he truly cared he'd give every penny above what he needs to live. that is, enough to buy himself food and take care of his essential bills. this doesn't count luxuries. the reason i hold him to that kind of standard is because he put himself on TV and asked millions of americans (most of which don't even have health care and are in debt) to sacrifice.

it's the same opinion i gave in one of the political threads about the clintons. yeah, they gave over 10 million to charities. that's great for the charities. however, it shows the hypocrisy of the clintons. they put themselves in the public eye declaring how much they care about the working man. they care about the single mom working multiple jobs and raising kids. they care so much about all the people without health care and the homeless. etc...the list goes on.

yet there they are sitting on many millions with the potential to earn millions more with small effort. if they truly cared and weren't full of shit, they would give everything possible. all that money they are sitting on wouldn't fix america entirely, but it could have already made many people very happy. people who desperately need it. they could give away every penny and still be fine. they'll always have a nice place to live. their health care will always be covered. bill clinton can make crazy cash just showing up somewhere to speak.


now, i dislike religion. i think it's mostly full of shit. however, this is one of those times when i happen to think a passage from it is valid. recall the story of Jesus instructing the rich man to give away all his earthly possessions in order to find salvation.

if you're going to go on national tv and ask people to sacrifice and give money, then you need to be prepared to explain why you still sit on top of a fortune. it doesn't matter if you give some of it away. you're still rich.

[Tullaeniel]

I know fuck successful people. What bastards how dare they.

[Lucane Darkseraphim]

Someone is bitter. Your logic is also alarmingly shallow.

There is no reason for a wealthy person to have to donate everything in order to not be hypocritical in asking others for assistance. If our society enforced that notion then no one would be willing to ask others to help those in need because they would then be criticized for not donating enough. Is it wrong for someone to promote the importance of volunteer work when they only volunteer 3 hours a week and watch TV for 20 hours a week after work? Is it wrong for a semi-annual blood donor to promote blood donation because they do not donate on a weekly basis?

Besides, part of the great thing about charity is the thought that it is the people as a whole coming together to help another. Celebrities are a great way to draw attention to charity because presumably they are trustworthy. It is much healthier for society as a whole to promote many people donating something to charity rather than guilting a few into donating all non-essentials.

[Tuco]

Kolle wants everyone to be broke as hell and angry at God.

AKA an athiest democrat.

[Brutul Tarew Marr]

Jesus Christ you are a retard Kolle. No one is taking money out of your pocket. They bought an ad asking people to help. If you don't want to, don't. Get over it. I need some sort of extreme eyeroll smiley for this post.

[x1hundredregrets]

The USA used a secret black box weapon to cause the earthquake. I'm surprised none of you realized that.

[AladainAF]

for millions of americans that are struggling with bills, having to choose between filling the tank or buying food...well asking them for money is just an insult.

I agree thats an insult. Just like politicians asking for money from these same people. But........

Fucking please. You mean the people who make the cover of CNN for being so poor they have to live in their car WITH THEIR DOGS?! I'm pretty sure the ads are overall targeted to people who can afford to give a little something. (I gave $100 to the red cross for the chinese earthquake situation, I expect you have given something?)

Who, in their right mind, is so poor they have to live in their own car, and can barely afford food, but at the same time doesn't get rid of dogs they can't afford?

I am sick and tired of people playing the crying game of being poorer than shit, yet still enjoying the luxuries that most people that are "poor" in the world don't get at all.

yao ming has and will probably forever have anything and everything he needs and wants. 70k is nothing for him. it's not a sacrifice.

it's the same opinion i gave in one of the political threads about the clintons. yeah, they gave over 10 million to charities.

But.. I don't understand this. You're saying that you will not look favorably upon them unless they give up all (or a large part of) their money that they have worked really hard to earn, and therefore the 10 million from the clintons, and the 70k from Yao are nothing, and make no difference? And you have given what?

If anyone is being hypocritical, its you.