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Old 05-12-2008, 05:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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[PC HELP] Is the problem with my Mobo or Rams?

Need some help:

Hi all,

a few days ago i posted this screenshot and fellow forumers told me that my RAM was dead.

This was the screenshot posted:



thread here

After determining that my ram had problem, i brough it down to RMA today. They tested it and there was NO PROBLEM.

So having them said that, i brought home again and used it.

Upon booting up i realised that when they were testing my rams were 800mhz but my PC always showed 1056mhz. This told me that some settings were wrong with my bios (although i was using default settings).

I tried to do some adjustments to make sure that the rams were 800mhz (as told to me by the convergent guys) and the CAS timings were 4-4-4-12.

But i still get errors:




Now. I somehow don't understand why the default settings on my mobo are overclocked settings but after tweaking it downwards (assuming i did it correctly) i STILL GET THE ERROR.

Now i'm suspecting its my mobo that is faulty. Is there anyway the mobo can be damaged so that the default settings are fubared?

To help bros troubleshoot, here are the settings on my bios.





As you can see, i had to adjust the FSB/memory ratio to get 800mhz (if i leave it at auto its 1056mhz). I don't even know if thats the right way to adjust it but thats the only setting that i could adjust to get 800mhz.

here is my CPUz screens to help u guys determine whats wrong.



REALLY NEED SOME ADVISE
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Old 05-12-2008, 05:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 05-12-2008, 06:00 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What errors caused you to go down this road to begin with?

Where did you get the version of memtest you're using?
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Old 05-12-2008, 06:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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memtest.org

Wasn't doing anything.

One day my PC just rebooted while i was using it and has been like this ever since (3 days ago)
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Old 05-12-2008, 06:07 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Now. I somehow don't understand why the default settings on my mobo are overclocked settings but after tweaking it downwards (assuming i did it correctly) i STILL GET THE ERROR.
A retail scam, they're overclocking stuff and selling it at the overclocked rate?
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Old 05-12-2008, 06:08 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't think thats the case...

Eitherways i have clocked it downwards back to 800mhz (the intended clock speed of my rams)

and still get the problem. This issue is fucking irritating as my PC will just reboot itself after about an hour of use
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Old 05-12-2008, 06:11 AM   #7 (permalink)
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In the second image you are still overclocked at 839MHz. And your 3.0GHz is running at over 3100Mhz. Some RAM can be very sensitive to overclocking. If it's 800MHz RAM then it may not overclock at stock timings.
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Old 05-12-2008, 06:14 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Yeah thats what i don't understand too.

My PC should be running at stock settings if i run bios at default. However, when bios settings are at default the RAMs settings are at 1068mhz.

What i need to do to get it down back to 800mhz is meddle with some settings and those settings are giving me these results.

DOes that mean my mobo is the funky factor here?

I have already flashed bios to latest and reset (by pushing this clear cmos button on the mobo) bios several times.
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Old 05-12-2008, 06:19 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Oh, also to bring some findings from myself.

After i discovered my PC's error,

I realised the memtest doesn't show error all the time.

If the PC is shut down and power off for some time and i boot it and run memtest immediately, i can go through entire memtest with 0 errors.

If the PC is being used and after about 30 mins it reboots itself after it BSOD on memory errors, and i run memtest, MANY errors appear even before the memtest is 2%
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I wouldn't blame the mobo yet.

You need to dig around in the BIOS and see if there is some auto-overclocking feature enabled. 333x2x1.2 should be 800Mhz. Memtest is showing your FSB is 349MHz instead of 333.

Can you drop the RAM divider down to 1:1 and test it underclocked?
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Old 05-12-2008, 06:55 AM   #11 (permalink)
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just did the 1:1 thing.

Ran memtest and it showed 0 errors. Won't be too happy yet.

Will need to fumble around in windows for sometime before i can determine that it really doesnt' give any problems as i've ran 0 error memtest before and windows still crashed after awhile.
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If you find it stable at 1:1 then you should definitely overclock.

Start raising your FSB, you can either start at like 350 or go right for 400. 400FSB with a 1:1 divider puts your RAM at 800MHz and your CPU at 3600MHz. This is called synchronous clocks and is ideal for overclocking a C2D system.
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what ram did you buy? could be a compatibility issue with your mobo/ram settings, thats why it would be okay when you took it down to the retail store.

why are you dicking with your ram anyway? just set it to auto
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My rams are

Crucial Ballistix DDR2 PC2-6400/800

I didn't dick around with my ram.

At default (auto detect) the clock is



which i don't think is working as intended!
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If you find it stable at 1:1 then you should definitely overclock.

Start raising your FSB, you can either start at like 350 or go right for 400. 400FSB with a 1:1 divider puts your RAM at 800MHz and your CPU at 3600MHz. This is called synchronous clocks and is ideal for overclocking a C2D system.
Thanks for the tip.

at 1:1 the memory is actually underclocked as the RMA guys told me it should be 800mhz.

I will still try your advise once i find that the settings are stable at 1:1. Thanks for the advise!
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