NASA discovery, speculation inside - Page 12

The Edge · 05-15-2008, 02:51 PM

Maybe they found Nibiru, a.k.a. Planet X. The Annunaki are coming back to say hi!

Planet X, Nibiru, Ancient Astronauts, NASA, UFO's

TheCutlery · 05-15-2008, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Edge

Maybe they found Nibiru, a.k.a. Planet X. The Annunaki are coming back to say hi!

Planet X, Nibiru, Ancient Astronauts, NASA, UFO's

Maybe their find has already been revealed and discussed.

roosta · 05-16-2008, 07:31 AM

so what did they find?

Burf · 05-16-2008, 09:25 AM

I'll give you a clue....the answer you seek is somewhere already in this thread.

roosta · 05-16-2008, 10:10 AM

i cant be bothered to go back and figure out what post is pre and what is post news conference.

Lejina Bloodbath · 05-16-2008, 10:17 AM

An asteroid half the size of Pluto is coming straight for us. We have 32 years left.

You're welcome.

Zuuljin · 05-16-2008, 02:16 PM

It sucks to think that without some amazing new technology, we will slowly die on this rock without ever exploring the universe. Even if we could travel the speed of light, the closest galaxy is 26,000 years away from us.

We could explore our own little galaxy somewhat, but even then it will take generations and generations to get anywhere.

Korioni · 05-16-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuuljin

It sucks to think that without some amazing new technology, we will slowly die on this rock without ever exploring the universe. Even if we could travel the speed of light, the closest galaxy is 26,000 years away from us.

We could explore our own little galaxy somewhat, but even then it will take generations and generations to get anywhere.

Very depressing. But with any luck, somebody will get funding for something like nuclear or laser propulsion (or something else near-light speed), make it happen, while somebody else creates a method of making/traveling through wormholes.

Eomer · 05-16-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuuljin

It sucks to think that without some amazing new technology, we will slowly die on this rock without ever exploring the universe. Even if we could travel the speed of light, the closest galaxy is 26,000 years away from us.

We could explore our own little galaxy somewhat, but even then it will take generations and generations to get anywhere.

I don't think it's all that sucky if we just explore our "little" galaxy, which is unimaginably large in reality. Billions and billions of stars to explore exist within the Milky Way, that's plenty enough for me.

Schatze · 05-16-2008, 09:18 PM

I consider the ISS a failure because while that may eventually be the goal, when will it happen? The ISS was supposed to be finished long ago. International stalling, politicking, standardization, has turned the ISS into a glorified MIR. MIR did a lot of the work that the ISS is currently doing and will be able to do for the foreseeable future. Even if it is finished.

The orbital inclination makes it useless as a stepping stone to anywhere really. That's due to the necessity of having it reachable by shuttle and soyuz. Good and bad thing, as it makes the ISS useless as a construction/launch pad for larger items (dare I say ships) that must be assembled in orbit. The good thing is, if the orbit wasn't achievable by soyuz launch vehicles, it would have been right screwed during Columbia.

As to the moon, do you know how many years and resources it will take to make it actually useful for anything beyond a "hey we're on the moon!" base. While that in and of itself isn't horrible, considering NASA's budget and the amount of money this would take, it would cut and has cut into their unmanned rover program which has done far more for science than flinging humans into micro g. Building on the moon doesn't have any advantage of building in orbit until the moon actually has sophisticated facilities for refining/creating/shaping extremely advanced high tech items (well, maybe fuel). And the best things is, for stuff like metals, you need to import them from Earth too!

As to eventually going to mars, well, it'd be neat to say we did it. It does have water, but is likely mineral poor above iron due to no real plate tectonics. Perhaps around some of the volcanoes there'd be useful minerals for high tech uses, but even then, how long and difficult would it be to make a station on mars useful for actually building other things?

It's just these grandiose dreams don't have the funding behind them to accomplish them. Sure, funding could be found, it was found for Iraq, but how much political will is there? Not much. Robot probes are the most cost efficient thing at the moment, and they only grow more competitive compared to humans as the years go by. Look at the 1994(?) rover compared to Spirit and Opportunity and the upcoming rover that will be launched with a fucking laser on it (well, laser spectrometer, but a laser still). Robots are the way to go with the realities of the day.

Fuck the ISS, we need a station in a useful orbital inclination with useful capabilities with a large enough crew to put together modularized space craft in orbit. But that won't happen while the ISS is happening, and that won't happen when the moon and mars are happening either.

hamrlik · 05-16-2008, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Korioni

...while somebody else creates a method of making/traveling through wormholes.

He is in college now

Eomer · 05-17-2008, 07:35 AM

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Fuck the ISS, we need a station in a useful orbital inclination with useful capabilities with a large enough crew to put together modularized space craft in orbit. But that won't happen while the ISS is happening, and that won't happen when the moon and mars are happening either.

I agree in hindsight that it was probably a mistake, but we've got it half built now, we may as well finish the damn thing. As for when it's supposed to be done, I believe the schedule is 2010 so they can retire the shuttles, and so far they're on track barring any huge problems.

Millie · 05-17-2008, 08:07 AM

Would someone mind spilling the beans on what this discovery/announcement was all about? For those of us too lazy/tired to sift through the various pages on this thread looking for answers. Thanks.

Gudrid · 05-17-2008, 08:23 AM

NASA - Galactic Hunt Bags Missing Supernova

Chrisb3 · 05-17-2008, 08:30 AM

They found a supernova that exploded only ~100 years ago (from our point of view), so they can see the early stages/expansion of one. It also lets them make theories about how frequently they happen (I think they said 3 per century).

It is very exiting. Oddly they also have a picture of it taken in the 80's so fuck knows what the fuss is about.

Men in Black must have told them to keep quiet about the real discovery...

EDIT: Damn above poster beat me to it

05-16-2008, 07:31 AM	#168 (permalink)
roosta Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 266 +0 Internets	so what did they find? __________________ ------------------------------------------------------ The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

05-16-2008, 10:10 AM	#170 (permalink)
roosta Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 266 +0 Internets	i cant be bothered to go back and figure out what post is pre and what is post news conference. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------ The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

05-16-2008, 02:16 PM	#172 (permalink)
Zuuljin So there's this plane on a treadmill... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,906 +2 Internets	It sucks to think that without some amazing new technology, we will slowly die on this rock without ever exploring the universe. Even if we could travel the speed of light, the closest galaxy is 26,000 years away from us. We could explore our own little galaxy somewhat, but even then it will take generations and generations to get anywhere. __________________ " We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." Richard Dawkins (1941 - ), "The Root of All Evil", UK Channel 4, 2006

05-16-2008, 09:18 PM	#175 (permalink)
Schatze Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,374 -4 Internets	I consider the ISS a failure because while that may eventually be the goal, when will it happen? The ISS was supposed to be finished long ago. International stalling, politicking, standardization, has turned the ISS into a glorified MIR. MIR did a lot of the work that the ISS is currently doing and will be able to do for the foreseeable future. Even if it is finished. The orbital inclination makes it useless as a stepping stone to anywhere really. That's due to the necessity of having it reachable by shuttle and soyuz. Good and bad thing, as it makes the ISS useless as a construction/launch pad for larger items (dare I say ships) that must be assembled in orbit. The good thing is, if the orbit wasn't achievable by soyuz launch vehicles, it would have been right screwed during Columbia. As to the moon, do you know how many years and resources it will take to make it actually useful for anything beyond a "hey we're on the moon!" base. While that in and of itself isn't horrible, considering NASA's budget and the amount of money this would take, it would cut and has cut into their unmanned rover program which has done far more for science than flinging humans into micro g. Building on the moon doesn't have any advantage of building in orbit until the moon actually has sophisticated facilities for refining/creating/shaping extremely advanced high tech items (well, maybe fuel). And the best things is, for stuff like metals, you need to import them from Earth too! As to eventually going to mars, well, it'd be neat to say we did it. It does have water, but is likely mineral poor above iron due to no real plate tectonics. Perhaps around some of the volcanoes there'd be useful minerals for high tech uses, but even then, how long and difficult would it be to make a station on mars useful for actually building other things? It's just these grandiose dreams don't have the funding behind them to accomplish them. Sure, funding could be found, it was found for Iraq, but how much political will is there? Not much. Robot probes are the most cost efficient thing at the moment, and they only grow more competitive compared to humans as the years go by. Look at the 1994(?) rover compared to Spirit and Opportunity and the upcoming rover that will be launched with a fucking laser on it (well, laser spectrometer, but a laser still). Robots are the way to go with the realities of the day. Fuck the ISS, we need a station in a useful orbital inclination with useful capabilities with a large enough crew to put together modularized space craft in orbit. But that won't happen while the ISS is happening, and that won't happen when the moon and mars are happening either. Last edited by Schatze : 05-16-2008 at 09:24 PM.

05-17-2008, 08:30 AM	#180 (permalink)
Chrisb3 Farming negs Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wigan, England Posts: 796 -41 Internets	They found a supernova that exploded only ~100 years ago (from our point of view), so they can see the early stages/expansion of one. It also lets them make theories about how frequently they happen (I think they said 3 per century). It is very exiting. Oddly they also have a picture of it taken in the 80's so fuck knows what the fuss is about. Men in Black must have told them to keep quiet about the real discovery... EDIT: Damn above poster beat me to it __________________ Dominara, Lv70 Shadow Priest: EU-Sylvanas.

05-15-2008, 02:51 PM	#166 (permalink)
The Edge Separation is an Illusion Join Date: May 2005 Location: No Posts: 417	Maybe they found Nibiru, a.k.a. Planet X. The Annunaki are coming back to say hi! Planet X, Nibiru, Ancient Astronauts, NASA, UFO's

05-16-2008, 09:25 AM	#169 (permalink)
Burf Kneel before Zod! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,314 +2 Internets	I'll give you a clue....the answer you seek is somewhere already in this thread.

05-16-2008, 10:17 AM	#171 (permalink)
Lejina Bloodbath Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 999 +2 Internets	An asteroid half the size of Pluto is coming straight for us. We have 32 years left. You're welcome.

05-17-2008, 08:07 AM	#178 (permalink)
Millie Feisty Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,715	Would someone mind spilling the beans on what this discovery/announcement was all about? For those of us too lazy/tired to sift through the various pages on this thread looking for answers. Thanks.

05-17-2008, 08:23 AM	#179 (permalink)
Gudrid Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 348 -1 Internets	NASA - Galactic Hunt Bags Missing Supernova

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