McCain vs. Obama

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by Scientologist

You have provided no direct evidence regarding Obama and AA. You have provided things that you believe portray gross incompetence and then make assumptions based on that. Just admit you can't prove it and we can move on.

What fucking UNIVERSE do you dwell in when I've PROVEN that there is simply NO OTHER REASON he could've been selected to the same seat Supreme Court justices have served in for any other reason? You have failed to support your proposition at ANY level. Have you even tried to explain the discrepancies between the manifest abilities of every other HLR alumni versus Obama's 17 years as a bumbling and inept legislator?

Unless you can provide any evidence of Obama's merit and abilities that could approximate HLR presidents previously, why don't you try to provide some OTHER reason Obama was selected in the absence of ANY MERIT WHATSOEVER.

YOU brought up the proposition that Obama's selection stemmed from anything other than a diversity qualification, but you have FAILED to show us any evidence of that merit altogether. YOU made the proposition that Obama's "achievement" stemmed from anything other than Affirmative Action, and you have FAILED to show us how his history and his record could portray a man who got that nomination on anything other than POLITICAL grounds.

YOU'RE the one fagging this shit up with your retarded persistence in ignoring the evidence that's been crammed down your throat over and over and over the fuck again. YOU can't prove your fucking point and everyone has seen the walls of red text showing Obama's total incompetence. YOU need to man the fuck up and admit that your proposition, like everything else you believe about Obama, is based on nothing factual at all.

[Scientologist]

You keep talking about MY convictions and MY propositions when I have stated NONE of them on this thread. Not one. I asked you to substantiate your claim, and you did not and have not.

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by Scientologist

You keep talking about MY convictions and MY propositions when I have stated NONE of them on this thread. Not one. I asked you to substantiate your claim, and you did not and have not.

YOU made the claim that Obama's selection is based on merit, you fucking cunt. YOU decided to wade in and insist that there's anything BUT gross incompetence, graft and reckless dishonesty in Obama's 17 years in public. YOU put forth the proposition that Obama received that accolade based on merit and nothing else.

But you've been asked to provide evidence of that merit and YOU have failed to provide ANY evidence that Obama possesses the competence and the abilities commensurate of that office.

EVERYONE around here knows that I've always supported all my arguments. There are even a couple dumbfucks who try to mock that particular point. I've plastered up wall after wall after all of red text of Obama's endless mea culpas and "boneheaded mistakes" and news footage of Obama's legal foibles.

YOU made the accusation when you brought up Animale's objection and YOU have failed to substantiate the premise that Obama possesses ANY of the acumen that would deserve the nomination. NOONE is fucking fooled, dickweed. You're just spamming like a fucking child.

[Malakriss]

A Sunday in the life of Khorum...

1) Go to sleep around 4am EST, Saturday night trolling keeps him up late
2) Wake up by noon, start the day off slow by only trolling a couple of threads
3) 12:30-1:45pm: lunch
4) 2pm - 4am Monday: Troll FoH all day with a post every 10-30 minutes. Google in between.

[Screamfeeder]

Hey Khorum, the Federalist Society threw their support in for Obama during his selection process at Harvard.

The fucking Federalist Society.

They were the ones protesting the Affermative Action protestors in 1988.

These are a group of people who HATE Affirmative Action.

But they wanted Obama to be President of the Harvard Law Review?!?!

How did some AA flunkie get the chops to get the fucking Federalist Society to throw in support to RUN THE REVIEW YOU SAY HE DIDN'T DESERVE TO GET IN?

Let's see what someone actually on the review has to say about it.

Hell lets see what a conservative member of the Federalist Society who helped pick Obama says.

Originally Posted by Bradford Berenson

Even though he was clearly a liberal, he didn't appear to the conservatives in the review to be taking sides in the tribal warfare...

The editors of the review were constantly at each other's throats. And Barack tended to treat those disputes with a certain air of detachment and amusement. The feeling was almost, come on kids, can't we just behave here?

Whatever his politics, we felt he would give us a fair shake...

Bradford Berenson worked as associate consul to the Bush administration by the way.

So let me get this straight, a conservative member of the Federalist Society (which is against affirmative action) voted to make Barack Obama the President of the Harvard Law Review even though you, some Bechtel toilet repairman says it MUST have been because he was a Black retard?

Google that shit yourself.

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by Malakriss

A Sunday in the life of Khorum...

1) Go to sleep around 4am EST, Saturday night trolling keeps him up late
2) Wake up by noon, start the day off slow by only trolling a couple of threads
3) 12:30-1:45pm: lunch
4) 2pm - 4am Monday: Troll FoH all day with a post every 10-30 minutes. Google in between.

Yeah, it's the life. I'll be back in the middle of nowhere soon enough, gotta get all my kicks in.

[Scientologist]

That's funny because I seem to remember you being UNABLE to show any evidence that he got there by affirmative action instead of by merit. Just saying that Harvard practices affirmative action and Obama is a nigger is not proof of anything except your ability to leap to conclusions.

So what you're saying is you have no proof?

How about real evidence that he was selected to fulfill an affirmative action quota rather than just inferences? I think that would serve.

Yeah, I get it. You have no proof. We can move on now.
I'm sure the administration of Harvard is falling all over themselves to deny that the first serious minority candidate(and very likely to win) for president ever attended their prestigious institution.

Still waiting for you to prove Obama's status at Harvard was a result of affirmative action. Either stop claiming it or provide some evidence.

Still waiting.

And waiting.

All this waiting is getting boring. Maybe he'll post something relevant soon, but probably not.

Well, I guess your just not going to provide any direct evidence for your claim. Probably because you can't, probably because it doesn't exist. I'd appreciate if you don't make claims you can't support. It really degrades the level of conversation.

I've made no claims. The burden of proof is not on me. You are the one making a claim that you cannot substantiate.

You seem to have a serious problem with just admitting you've made a claim you cannot factual support. Just say it dude. You know it to be true.

I'll take that as a "I can't prove what I was saying, so I'm going to move on without acknowledging it."

I never said word one about Obama's competency or how he got his spot on the HLR. All I said was you can't prove your claim about affirmative action, which you obviously can't.

And yet you still fail to provide any evidence related to your claim. Assumptions based on other things is not proof. I know you know this.

Again, I never said anything about Obama's competence. I'm merely asking you to substantiate your claims, which you cannot. Stop trying to turn this on me when the burden is fully on you.

You keep attributing things to me I never said. Please, stop and substantiate your claims or back them up.

I said nothing about anything Animale said, I only asked you show me proof that Obama's status on HLR was achieved through AA, and you couldn't.

Yes, you are very good at assumptions, I know that. You apparently are very bad at providing evidence for your claim though.

You have provided no direct evidence regarding Obama and AA. You have provided things that you believe portray gross incompetence and then make assumptions based on that. Just admit you can't prove it and we can move on.

You keep talking about MY convictions and MY propositions when I have stated NONE of them on this thread. Not one. I asked you to substantiate your claim, and you did not and have not.

Please point to me to the EXACT POST where you are gleaning MY convictions and MY propositions from. I can't seem to find it.

Oh and while you're at it, try to find some proof for your claim.

[Animale]

Originally Posted by Khorum

YOU made the claim that Obama's selection is based on merit, you fucking cunt. YOU decided to wade in and insist that there's anything BUT gross incompetence, graft and reckless dishonesty in Obama's 17 years in public. YOU put forth the proposition that Obama received that accolade based on merit and nothing else.

But you've been asked to provide evidence of that merit and YOU have failed to provide ANY evidence that Obama possesses the competence and the abilities commensurate of that office.

EVERYONE around here knows that I've always supported all my arguments. There are even a couple dumbfucks who try to mock that particular point. I've plastered up wall after wall after all of red text of Obama's endless mea culpas and "boneheaded mistakes" and news footage of Obama's legal foibles.

YOU made the accusation when you brought up Animale's objection and YOU have failed to substantiate the premise that Obama possesses ANY of the acumen that would deserve the nomination. NOONE is fucking fooled, dickweed. You're just spamming like a fucking child.

Just to add to the merit and success point... Obama did graduate in the top 10% of his class at Harvard Law, magna cum laude. If that isn't a mark of academic success and rigor then I don't know what is - being President of the Law Review was merely the cherry on top of his academic success, not the beginning nor the end of it.

So, unless every Professor at Harvard Law magically decided to give Obama A's and B's for some mysterious racial bias, he was qualified for his post of President of Harvard Law Review by every criteria available (that is, grades, political acumen within that closed group, writing ability, etc.) and then he proceeded to run said review for a year while maintaining his grades, making lifelong political allies and friends, and keeping the fractious groups at the editorial board under control.

Another, earlier, article on his law school times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/28/us...ewanted=1&_r=1

You lose on this point, he succeeded at Harvard by any possible measure. To deny this is just being obtuse.

Animale

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by Screamfeeder

So let me get this straight, a conservative member of the Federalist Society (which is against affirmative action) voted to make Barack Obama the President of the Harvard Law Review even though you, some Bechtel toilet repairman says it MUST have been because he was a Black retard?

Yeah, we've gone over how that Boston Globe is soooo effusive about Obama's ability to wheedle and cajole and proffer the most inoffensive obsequiousness to accomplish his goals. THAT'S consistent with his entire career. We went over how that article barely discusses anything about the substance of Obama's abilities. THAT'S consistent with his entire career.

But now we're expected to believe that a conservative's acknowledgement that Obama was doing his job is some kind of ENDORSEMENT? Just because some conservative didn't get thrown out of Obama's office we're expected to interpret that as a reflection of his COMPETENCE?

Well shit, why stop at some activist conservative sycophant, let's go balls out because Former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke has said that he didn't see Obama any differently than he saw Hilary Clinton or John McCain. Federalist, Shmederalist, if Obama can convince David Duke that he's an ok feller that must REFUTE two whole decades of incompetence, graft and corruption and is proof that Obama is as able and gifted as he has been portrayed to be right?

Except it doesn't and he isn't.

[spronk]

I accept your apology Khorum.

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by Scientologist

Please point to me to the EXACT POST where you are gleaning MY convictions and MY propositions from. I can't seem to find it.

Oh and while you're at it, try to find some proof for your claim.

AGAIN __YOU__ resurrected the preposterous notion that Obama's selection to head the HLR was predicated on merit and competence. When in fact Obama's history before, after and since his ascension to the national arena has shown us NOT ONE SIGN of the sort of ability and acumen that would seat him next to people just Chief Justice Roberts and Antonin Scalia. It doesn't even put him up there next to Elliot Spitzer, who was president a couple years before him.

YOU made the claim that Obama's selection was based on abilities and merits that has not borne out in any way, any shape, or any form. So absent any evidence of merit have you given us any hint as to what OTHER reason he was chosen if not political reasons? No.

YOU made the claim and YOU have the burden of substantiating it.

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by spronk

I accept your apology Khorum.

Yeah, you'll accept it all the way down your throat. You'll accept it on your bruised knees, crying quietly while my apology dribbles lazily down your chin. If you're good I'll thoroughly apologize to your wife while you watch too.

[Scientologist]

Look, I posted a quote of all my posts relevant to this topic. PLEASE point me to the EXACT POST that you think is me claiming Obama got his position because of merit rather than asking you to post evidence of your claim,which you have yet to do.

[spronk]

Originally Posted by Khorum

Yeah, you'll accept it all the way down your throat. You'll accept it on your bruised knees, crying quietly while my apology dribbles lazily down your chin. If you're good I'll thoroughly apologize to your wife while you watch too.

Another closet homosexual republican? Thats ok, I accept your apology and your gay lifestyle, no need to tape your feet at the airport.

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by Scientologist

Look, I posted a quote of all my posts relevant to this topic. PLEASE point me to the EXACT POST that you think is me claiming Obama got his position because of merit rather than asking you to post evidence of your claim,which you have yet to do.

You're just fucking SPAMMING this bullshit now. __YOU__ brought Animale's claim up. __YOU__ put it upon yourself to take his position that when you "seemed to remember" when the point was originally made about Obama's selection as a reflection of his MERIT. __YOU__ have the burden showing us how 17 years of Obama's incompetence and corruption could in ANY WAY approximate the merit that have manifested in practically EVERY OTHER alumnus that held that position.

It's YOUR fucking claim, why don't YOU fucking substantiate. Why don't you cite Animale's most recent post or try to make an angle about Obama's apparent endorsement from Bradford Berenson. Maybe THAT could somehow refute Obama's adventures STEALING elections, funnelling contracts to his patrons and totally failing the simple activity of VOTING for his legislation.