McCain vs. Obama

[brekk]

Originally Posted by I'm Rich Bitch

What the hell were they thinking in Connecticut?

We don't like that fucker either.

He didn't win the right to run as our democratic canidate for our senate seat. So he went independent, grabbed all the republican votes, (They'd rather see him than a real Dem in office) and a small percent of the democratic votes. And stole the election, which is always Dem won.

He preached that even though he was an Independent he'd still represent us a a democratic politician. Second he got into office he cozied up real fast to his GOP buddies.

He's a slimey dirtbag, and we don't like him.

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by I'm Rich Bitch

Plus "My Friends", the cab driver does not have yellow teeth.

And here I thought only KAIO was stupid enough to pounce of Obama's opponents because of APPEARANCES. You really REALLY think that Obama's creamy mulatto complexion wins out somehow, right? You REALLY think there's enough of a nigger-loving Maury/Springer voting bloc to make superficialities a core issue in the campaign?

You really DO watch FOX don't you?

Unfortunately, even the worst bucktoothed teenage whigglet-factories crying through those paternity tests on Maury demand some basic factual basis on their candidates (at least as much as they do on exactly which nignog knocked their asses up). And it really DOESN'T take much scrutiny to see how much of a fucking CHARLATAN Obama truly is.

[Kaio]

Originally Posted by Khorum

He was born to muslim father, who was a son of a muslim man. He invoked the Shahadah daily as speaking child and was a muslim until his "conversion" to Christianity in 1989, less than twenty years ago. Under the laws of the Hadith, he is not Kufr (or Kaffir), but is Murtadd---an apostate, a bad muslim and considered a "shirker", but he is STILL a muslim and not a Kaffir and thus may not be enslaved out of battle.

At least before when you quoted false allegations you didn't completely pull them out of your ass. Also I noticed that screamfeeder stated that he went to a muslim school while his mother and stepfather stayed in Indonesia. Even that is far from the truth, his school wasn't islamic in any sense of the word.

But reporting by CNN in Jakarta, Indonesia and Washington, D.C., shows the allegations that Obama attended a madrassa to be false. CNN dispatched Senior International Correspondent John Vause to Jakarta to investigate.

He visited the Basuki school, which Obama attended from 1969 to 1971.

"This is a public school. We don't focus on religion," Hardi Priyono, deputy headmaster of the Basuki school, told Vause. "In our daily lives, we try to respect religion, but we don't give preferential treatment."

Vause reported he saw boys and girls dressed in neat school uniforms playing outside the school, while teachers were dressed in Western-style clothes.

"I came here to Barack Obama's elementary school in Jakarta looking for what some are calling an Islamic madrassa ... like the ones that teach hate and violence in Pakistan and Afghanistan," Vause said on the "Situation Room" Monday. "I've been to those madrassas in Pakistan ... this school is nothing like that."

Vause also interviewed one of Obama's Basuki classmates, Bandug Winadijanto, who claims that not a lot has changed at the school since the two men were pupils. Insight reported that Obama's political opponents believed the school promoted Wahhabism, a fundamentalist form of Islam, "and are seeking to prove it."

"It's not (an) Islamic school. It's general," Winadijanto said. "There is a lot of Christians, Buddhists, also Confucian. ... So that's a mixed school."

CNN debunks false report about Obama - CNN.com

Edit: If you honestly believe that appearance doesn't effect electability at all you're really back on crack.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

Originally Posted by Khorum

And here I thought only KAIO was stupid enough to pounce of Obama's opponents because of APPEARANCES. You really REALLY think that Obama's creamy mulatto complexion wins out somehow, right? You REALLY think there's enough of a nigger-loving Maury/Springer voting bloc to make superficialities a core issue in the campaign?

You really DO watch FOX don't you?

Unfortunately, even the worst bucktoothed teenage whigglet-factories crying through those paternity tests on Maury demand some basic factual basis on their candidates (at least as much as they do on exactly which nignog knocked their asses up). And it really DOESN'T take much scrutiny to see how much of a fucking CHARLATAN Obama truly is.

McCain is a non-Candidate. By that I mean he does not even matter in this election. The ballot should read:

Do you vote for Barack Obama?

• Yes
• No

If "No" wins, then we should have the Supreme Court flip a coin; heads for Hillary and tails for McCain. Nobody is actually for McCain. They are just for or against Obama. You, Hal Turner, the Grand Dragon and rest of your Appalachian inbred coalition can not possibly like McCain.

[Bristlebane]

Someone claiming that anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is a racist automatically loses any argument they're involved in. That may be what jobless Gen Y losers like to spout, but it isn't so.

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by Screamfeeder

Where was all this talk about the Kurds in March of 2003 when we invaded Iraq? It didn't exist because back then, you didn't give a shit. You were probably sitting at home just BEGGING Sean and Rush to get some solid proof on those WMD's that you didn't even realize that people actually lived in that country.

LMAO where was I? I was in occupied Kuwait in 1991 is where I was. I was in the gulf for three months afterwards too. Later, I was in the Mediterranean when when we enforced the no-fly-zone over the what is now Iraqi Kurdistan, which is what made the current stability in Kurdistan a REALITY. Where the fuck were YOU in 1991? Or in 2003? Or today? Were YOU "punished" by the Bush Administration too?

Begging Sean Hannity? He wasn't even on the radar back then... FOX didn't exist back then. You were still in grade school oohing and ahhing over the pretty CNN footage, years before you'd grow up to pretend to care about SSC even though you forgave Clinton's vicious betrayal of American Scientific preeminence. Not only do I personally KNOW some of the Kurdish activists who lobbied the congress and the UN for assistance (and assisted them during their trade mission to the US in 2006), I've known them from before I earned my Kuwaiti liberation ribbon.

Yeah, we all know you're a pro at projecting YOUR ineffectiveness and YOUR inaction onto others, but sorry, some of us actually know and care about the region with a sincerity that your numbed, desensitized generation is simply incapable of.

Originally Posted by Screamfeeder

What the fuck is this rancid bullshit? You are really fucking deluded.

Obamas father was a Muslim who later stop practicing and became agnostic/atheist.

I know your slimy angle here and it is so thin it doesn't exist. Other Muslims may think Obama is a Muslim because his dad was one at some point back in the day, but that doesn't make him one and you know it.

WHAT? Obama HIMSELF writes about that in his first fucking book you retard. Some of us around here actually READ Dreams of My Father instead lapping up Obama's manpaste so thoughtlessly. Back when he wrote the book in 1996 he never shied about how muslim his father was nor about how his father lived as a traditional muslim polygamist.

Not ONLY was Obama's father a practicing muslim, he even imparted some of that devotion to young Barry Soetoro during the last time he met his 10 year old son. After that point the boy called himself Barrack Hussein Obama in honor of his father and grandfather, despite being known as Barry Soetoro for most of his life till that point.

How is it MY slimy fucking angle? Your objection is exactly like every OTHER attempt of yours to dilute reality with your weak ass coolaid. Barack Hussein Obama was fine being muslim until 1989. He was fine being a muslim 29 out of his 46 years on this earth. He was a muslim when he was born to a muslim father. He was muslim when he was raised by a muslim stepfather and sent to attend an Indonesian madrasa SDN101 Besuki. And he was a muslim when he graduated highschool, finished harvard and became a lawyer. He was fine being a muslim, having invoked the shahadah and fulfilled the al'llm and al'ikhlaas conditions of profession as a speaking child.

He didn't have problems with muslim friends in grade school, in highschool and college and he didnt have problems associating with, colluding with and accepting money from arab-american and muslim influence peddlers like Tony Rezko, Ali Ata and Nadhmi Auchi when he became an elected official.

That's the Hadith, I COULD NOT make that up if I tried. Obama CELEBRATES his muslim heritage in Dreams of Our Father even as he praises Jeremiah Wright's teachings later in the same book.

Noone criticizes this, I thought it was heartfelt and sincere myself. I've ALWAYS mentioned that Obama's instincts have always proven to be correct, while the advice of his counsellors have been the mistake. I've repeatedly pointed out that the actual SLIMY thing was denying his fondness for Wright, for whom he dedicated his SECOND book and even titled it after one of Wright's sermons. I even compared the situation to Truman's staunch defense of his old supporter Boss Tom Pendergrast, who had been convicted of extortion and fraud, but America ended up admiring Truman for his loyalty despite the revulsion of the pundits and his political opponents.

But here you all are desperately eager to expunge Obama's past because of your OWN intolerances. It's not really surprising that it was the democrats who panicked and slammed down on the Xenophobia button when it came down to trusting sandmonkeys to run our ports. It's not really surprising that it's our "Crusader" president who support the Dubai people in that shameful display of nativist cowardice. Just as it's not surprising that it was the republican president who lent his weight to the McCain-Kennedy immigration act.

Originally Posted by Screamfeeder

Since I already proved you wrong about this, I will just copy and paste my reply from the last time you brought up this bullshit.

You proved ME wrong? You mean like when you "proved" that the soviet union didn't really have all those weapons and that you were SURE that the cold war was a giant fucking lie for folks like me to aggrandize myself? Like how you waved your fucking second-hand indignity fresh off Chomsky's limp wristed mewlings? You mean like how you PROVED that you hadn't the first fucking clue about latin-american liberation theologists co-opting communism in the region and how you were SOOOOO fucking sure that operation Countenance and Mossadeqh were all vicious and unreasonable intrusions on the sovereignty of a peace-loving Iran even though they had been courting the fucking SOVIETS during the heart of the cold war?

No, actually, all you fucking proved was that you have an automatic mental BLOCK on anything that reflects poorly on your deluded version of reality. The article I mentioned had quoted Obama when HE ADMITTED THAT WHAT HE DID WAS WRONG. Barack Hussein Obama, after sending in his lawyers in the middle of the night to SUE all his opponents of the ballot whether their petitions were valid or NOT said that "In a recent interview, Obama granted that "there's a legitimate argument to be made that you shouldn't create barriers to people getting on the ballot." Oh yeah, he was just "following the rules" right? That MUST be why he sent a squad of his harvard lawyer buddies into the office in the middle of the night at New Years right?

No, he fucking STOLE his very first election. He even attemtps to justify it with his trite: ""I think they ended up with a very good state senator."

Only we didn't. We ended up with the most brazenly corrupt and incompetent state senator in living memory. In addition to farming out state jobs to Rezko's buddies, Obama spent his term as my state senator delivering state contract after state contract to his arab-american activist buddies in Rezmar, resulting delinquent construction, dilapidated tenements and outright theft. You think Obama was slick about hiding his patronage of Rezko's blatant graft of goverment funds? WRONG. Once state, city and community leaders started taking action about Rezko's failures to service his state contracts, Obama PERSONALLY wrote to each community leader to pressure them into awarding more and more contracts to Rezko, to the tune of $41 million taxpayer dollars. But that's just his extracurricular activities. When it came to actual legislation, Obama showed that while he may have been an Einstein in graft and patronage, when it came to actually serve his constituents he consistently FUCKED UP, pressing the wrong buttons on key votes over the span of four years and infuriating even HIS OWN party with his ineptitude.

It would've been nice if it turned out that Obama's capacity for slick presentation and even slicker underhandedness translated into concrete benefits for his constituents. But his "playing by the rules" gamesmanship when STEALING his 1996 election yielded nothing but failure and misery for the most vulnerable members of Chicago's society: The poor elderly and underprivileged children for whom Obama whored the public trust to his arab financiers.

Hell it would've been nice if Obama's pattern of electoral FRAUD was restricted to 1996, but we're not even blessed with THAT MUCH. Obama persisted in vicious chicago-machine politics even as recently as his US Senate election when sealed court documents of his opponent's vicious divorce "magically" appeared on the front pages of the Chicago Tribune.

Yeah, just "following the rules" right? You didn't PROVE shit.

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by I'm Rich Bitch

McCain is a non-Candidate. By that I mean he does not even matter in this election. The ballot should read:

Do you vote for Barack Obama?

• Yes
• No

If "No" wins, then we should have the Supreme Court flip a coin; heads for Hillary and tails for McCain. Nobody is actually for McCain. They are just for or against Obama. You, Hal Turner, the Grand Dragon and rest of your Appalachian inbred coalition can not possibly like McCain.

Oh and this is informed by what body of reliable knowledge exactly? The lint underneath your mantits? The greasy paste between your chins?

Unless you have some kind of substantiation for ANY of the ridiculous horseshit you're spewing, at least try to be funny or just shut the fuck up.

[Fog]

Originally Posted by Khorum

.

EARTH HAS 4 CORNER
SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY
TIME CUBE
IN ONLY 1 EARTH ROTATION.
4 Corner Times CUBES EARTH.
If a God existed, he would be EVIL
to DENY 4 Opposite Corner Days
Simultaneously within a 4 Quadrant
Earth Rotation. It's Simple Math,
IF NOT FOR Academic Lobotomy.
AS ONE, YOU DO NOT EXIST,
neither does the Earth or any God.
All exist as unified mirror Opposites
with a Zero value Existence. As ONE,
Created Opposites cancel to nothing.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

Originally Posted by Bristlebane

Someone claiming that anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is a racist automatically loses any argument they're involved in. That may be what jobless Gen Y losers like to spout, but it isn't so.

I am not saying that in general, however I am specifically saying that for Khorum. He brings up issues that are not campaign issues. A disagreement with ideology, position on valid political issues or a problem with Obama's amount of experience are valid issues.

I will not accept any other attacks against Obama including any attack including any wedge issue. This includes but is not limited to any mention of Rev. Wright or Obama's middle name. I will not tolerate any Rev. Wright, racial, or other chatter. From this point on in this thread, only positive comments, questions, or news about Senator Obama are permitted. Any negative post must be in regards to campaign issues as noted in the first paragraph of my post.

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by Kaio

At least before when you quoted false allegations you didn't completely pull them out of your ass. Also I noticed that screamfeeder stated that he went to a muslim school while his mother and stepfather stayed in Indonesia. Even that is far from the truth, his school wasn't islamic in any sense of the word.

Edit: If you honestly believe that appearance doesn't effect electability at all you're really back on crack.

You're a fucking retard. I KNOW I've explained to YOU why the Indonesian madrasa system really IS a fucking madrasa school. SDN101-Besuki is a Madrasa in the Sharia-observing muslim state of Indonesia. The muslim students there are expected to invoke the Shahadah every morning and they have prayers every thursday.

It's a secular institution in a RELIGIOUS state, but even if they don't indoctrinate their students into Islam if they belong to another religion, they actually DO require their muslim students to invoke their prayers every morning.

Young Barry Soetoro was enrolled in SDB Besuki 101 as muslim student. Just another muslim student in the SAME Indonesian State-Run madrasa school system that produced the Jemaah Islamiyah terror group who sent suicide bombers to murder 200 innocent civilians in Bali. It's the same "secular" state-run madrasa system that used to be the workplace of men like Riduan Isuamuddin who, before he was a leader in Jemaah Islamiya and an al-Qaeda liason, was a senior administrator in Indonesia's secular "madrasa" school.

REAL FUCKING secular, for sure.

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by I'm Rich Bitch

I am not saying that in general, however I am specifically saying that for Khorum. He brings up issues that are not campaign issues. A disagreement with ideology, position on valid political issues or a problem with Obama's amount of experience are valid issues.

I will not accept any other attacks against Obama including any attack including any wedge issue. This includes but is not limited to any mention of Rev. Wright or Obama's middle name. I will not tolerate any Rev. Wright, racial, or other chatter. From this point on in this thread, only positive comments, questions, or news about Senator Obama are permitted. Any negative post must be in regards to campaign issues as noted in the first paragraph of my post.

Or you'll do what? Make more grand pronouncements with no substantiation whatsoever? Flick balls of your own gummed-up dandruff on the screen?

The rules have always been simple: You present an opinion, then you support it with FACTS. Unfortunately, you start with "presenting an opinion", then you meander over to "defecate noisily into the interwebs" and then you veer back into "presenting an opinion".

You've been called out on any kind of factual support for all the preposterous asshattery you've never failed to deliver, but you just give even MORE fucking bullshit opinions.

[Erumaron]

Khorum vs. I'm Rich Bitch for the political season to come. *gets out the popcorn*

[Simas]

I think the issue with Obama being Muslim or not is most adults accept that at some point in one's life one makes up his or her own mind about religion. Often times this will lead to a different religion than that of what was taught to the child or perhaps even no religion at all.

For instance I was raised catholic, confirmed etc but I am an atheist. In the church's eyes I may just be a bad catholic but since Im not a catholic I really dont care what they have to say.

Sure in a bout of semantic pig-headedness someone could insist I was a catholic, just a bad one. But to what end? I do not go to church, I do not take communion, I do not believe in the Virgin Mary etc.

I guess the question is who and what decides an individual's religion, the individual him or herself and their acts, or institutional dogma and the individual's childhood.

Most people think its the individuals choice, one is christian by one's own word and deed, not by a priest or rule naming one christian.

[Tristinn]

The lint underneath your mantits? The greasy paste between your chins?

Fat jokes?

All the insults in your posts are so fucking lame.

[Aikar]

it's a simple choice really:

McCain is against Net Neutrality, Obama supports it.

McCain wants to put an end to sites like FoH and online gaming. How can anyone support him?