Eliot Spitzer

[GrobbeeTrull2.0]

The price tag, in this case.

[Indiana]

Originally Posted by Quineloe

So what exactly is so outrageous about prostitution in General?

That it is illegal. It's generally frowned upon to commit a crime especially in a higher office. Secondly if you made your career on prosecuting people for committing that very crime, it makes you a world class hypocrit.

[spronk]

we need pix of $1500 hookers

[Etoille]

Originally Posted by Indiana

That it is illegal. It's generally frowned upon to commit a crime especially in a higher office. Secondly if you made your career on prosecuting people for committing that very crime, it makes you a world class hypocrit.

I don't think that was what he was getting at.

Personally I have no issue with prostitution as long as there are health regulations/testing that goes along with it.

I think it comes from the whole "thou shalt not fornicate" mentality.

Now if youre married i dont think prostitution is a great idea simply because i think that you shouldnt be sleeping with anyone but your wife.

But there are those that make the argument that the whole "thou shall be monogamous" mentality is also outdated. In which case I respond - if you have an open marriage again i dont have an issue with prostitution. You cant be being dishonest with your partner in that scenario if youve decided thats how you all want to live your lives. Its not what I want but its your life.

But I'm also for same sex marriage. And the only reason im against polygamy is for healthcare/benefits/inheritance reasons. Whatever you want to do in your bedroom/live your life is your damn business not mine - unless you ask me to pay for it.


There's a fine line between prostitution and a lot of other "non illegal" activities:

porn: those girls get paid to have sex on camera. do you really think ron jeremy and some of those guys were there first choices? does it matter that a production company is paying both of them to have sex? what if someone buys a hooker for their friend? is that not the same thing?

girls in bars: buying a girl drinks/girl trying to get free drinks til she gives it up.

girls sleeping with guys for gifts: no explanation needed.

girl having esex with guild leader to get epics: durr.

the difference between "prostitution the crime" and all these scenarios....prositution the crime is at least honest with itself.

[Indiana]

Originally Posted by Etoille

I don't think that was what he was getting at.

Personally I have no issue with prostitution as long as there are health regulations/testing that goes along with it.

Oh I absolutely agree. I think people should be allowed to do whatever they want with their own bodies. I see nothing inherently wrong with prostitution, but this guy was literally named "The crusader" for his relentless investigations in to corruption and prostitution rings.
I'm very happy to sit back and watch him fry. There's no greater sin than hypocrisy.

[Etoille]

Originally Posted by Indiana

I'm very happy to sit back and watch him fry. There's no greater sin than hypocrisy.

Totally agree.

[Quineloe]

Originally Posted by GrobbeeTrull2.0

The price tag, in this case.

well, pop stars charge much more.

[Sinter1]

Originally Posted by Quineloe

well, pop stars charge much more.

So that's what Britney has been up to?

[Quineloe]

Originally Posted by Sinter1

So that's what Britney has been up to?

Do you think anyone would pay $1500 for her?
You might get coke on your shirt, the scandal!

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by Soriak

Not the full faces in the ads though, no way to be a tough guy on the internet and complain about the eyebrows

Actually, I got through about half of those pictures before I noticed that none of their faces were showing.

[Leto Eu`Acumen]

Originally Posted by Indiana

I'm very happy to sit back and watch him fry. There's no greater sin than hypocrisy.

Well, I am not happy about it...But I think he should definitely pack his bags and leave, and you pointed out the #1 reason why imo. Let the Lt. Governor step in and do his duty.

Originally Posted by Quineloe

So what exactly is so outrageous about prostitution in General?

This is the real question we should ask.

Victimization is one thing, but the kind of girl that charges $4,300 for an evening fling isn't being victimized.

Spitzer basically admitted to what he did, so there is no reason to "wait for the legal process to play out" or somesuch nonsense. We don't need a guilty verdict out of a court of law to know what he already had a press conference about.

[Tolanin]

spitzer is in trouble cause he spent tons of time harping on how bad people like that were... its like being gay, not many people really care if you come out unless youve spent tons of time lying about it and condemning people for a crime/act you are committing yourself.

[Snugglebear]

I'm saddened by this. Elliot Spitzer used his position as attorney general and as governor of New York to hold corporations and criminals accountable. He prosecuted the Gambino crime family for antitrust violations, which is god damn creative. But he also did a lot for consumers and didn't just sit back and allow slow-ass federal prosecutors to investigate big business. Spitzer did it himself.

He laid down $730 million in fines on the big five computer chip manufacturers for price fixing. He sued and won $1.2 billion in fines against brokerage houses like Merryl Lynch, JP Morgan, and Morgan Stanley for artifically inflating their stock. He broke open the 2003 mutual fund scandal, where hedge fund managers and 'privileged investors' of hedge funds could do late-market trading at the previous day's price and do more trades than allowed by the hedge funds, allowing the privileged investors to gain more profits while sidestepping the risk of losses, which were passed on to normal investors in the hedge fund. The SEC initiated an investigation over the complaint and more than $1 billion in fines were levied. He also investigated the insurance industry for various crap. He investigated AOL for its 'customer retention' policies which led hundreds of AOL users who cancelled their subscriptions to be continually billed.

I will not contend that he is a saint, and not just because of this prostitution foolishness, but rather because he did not investigate many of his supporters. For example he attempted to sue Dick Grasso, chairman of the New York Stock Exchange (a nonprofit corporation) for getting a $170 million retirement package, but did not file a complaint against Carl McCall who was the compensation committee chairman and presided over the approval of the compensation package for Grasso - but was also a political supporter of Spitzer. But I do think he did many positive things for this country by attempting to keep large corporations and trading houses in check during this eight year free-for-all.

[Etoille]

Source: Spitzer 'cannot hold on to his job' - CNN.com

[Eomer]

As Snugglebear talked about, it's really a damn shame that someone who seemed to be so dedicated to helping the little guy just turned out to be another version of The Man.