guess who wants MI dem primary votes counted now after the fact?

Etoille · 01-25-2008, 07:11 PM

meaning in the convention:

Clinton roils vote dispute in presidential race - Yahoo! News

Araxen · 01-25-2008, 07:39 PM

Something in their internal polling must say they need them now otherwise why bother with all the bs?

Astrocreep · 01-25-2008, 11:20 PM

She is making friends by changing the rules to suit her!

Desx · 01-25-2008, 11:26 PM

shes such an idiot, who in their right mind would consider voting for this whore?

mek · 01-26-2008, 01:50 AM

Unbelievable.

Soriak · 01-26-2008, 02:44 AM

I called it in one of the threads about it

Edwards and Obama were retarded for pulling out... why take your name off the ballot? There's nothing to be gained from it and you face exactly the risk that they get their delegates back. (given those rather brutal sanctions, not so unlikely)

Etoille · 01-26-2008, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Soriak

I called it in one of the threads about it

Edwards and Obama were retarded for pulling out... why take your name off the ballot? There's nothing to be gained from it and you face exactly the risk that they get their delegates back. (given those rather brutal sanctions, not so unlikely)

You did I remember this.

It makes me sick that there are people in this country retarded enough to vote for them (the clintons).

Its like the fuckers who voted for bush in 2004.

Havelock · 01-26-2008, 07:49 AM

People have been talking about this for awhile. Michigan and Florida are two key states for the Democrats - they're not going to want to piss off their party activists in those states by shutting them out of the convention, so odds are they'll seat the delegates. The Clintons were smart enough to figure this out. If Obama should get the nomination, I imagine he'll regret giving Michigan a big "fuck you" in the primaries, as he'll need to work that state hard for the general election.

Kez · 01-26-2008, 08:03 AM

I just wish more Michigan voters had realized that and not voted for Hillary just because she was the only big name left on the ballot. At least not all the delegates are locked in to voting for her, if they do end up getting seated.

Tolanin · 01-26-2008, 08:09 AM

saying you are gonna not seat them then changing your mind later after the election is already over would be about the most shady thing i have ever seen in politics. And the dems cried that bush '00 in florida was bad lawl.

Soriak · 01-26-2008, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kez

I just wish more Michigan voters had realized that and not voted for Hillary just because she was the only big name left on the ballot. At least not all the delegates are locked in to voting for her, if they do end up getting seated.

"Uncommitted" scored a lot of votes... turnout would surely have been better with Obama and Edwards on the ballot. If they don't count uncommitted votes for delegates, Clinton would get almost all of them. A few would probably be open to vote however they want, since Kucinich dropped out of the race.

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Originally Posted by Tolanin

And the dems cried that bush '00 in florida was bad lawl.

The difference is that primaries are party internal matters - they're not regulated by the constitution. The people who could run in the general election used to be selected by the party leaders and not primaries, very much unlike the general election.

Kez · 01-26-2008, 08:42 AM

From what was being said before the Primary, the Uncomitted delegates are just that, uncommitted. They still are part of the process, just not tied to one particular candidate. Unfortunately that still leaves them the option of voting for Hillary, but at least them having the option of voting for Obama or Edwards if the Michigan delegates are seated is better than nothing I guess. As disgusted as I am with the national Democratic Party machine for pandering to Iowa & New Hampshire, I'm even more disgusted and angry with the leaders of the Michigan Democratic Party for fucking things up like this in this particular election cycle.

Kevincheese · 01-26-2008, 09:11 AM

I'm pretty sure either 41 or 51% of the michigan votes were for "undecided."

I'm willing to bet both Edwards and Obama would have done very well had they been on the poll here.

chaos · 01-26-2008, 10:02 AM

55% voted for Clinton

Zhaun's_Shade · 01-26-2008, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Araxen

Something in their internal polling must say they need them now otherwise why bother with all the bs?

Yeah, the race is too close, so its time for some shadeyness to take the lead! This is really disgusting.

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01-26-2008, 07:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
Havelock Lead Farmer Join Date: May 2005 Location: DC Posts: 1,541 -8 Internets	People have been talking about this for awhile. Michigan and Florida are two key states for the Democrats - they're not going to want to piss off their party activists in those states by shutting them out of the convention, so odds are they'll seat the delegates. The Clintons were smart enough to figure this out. If Obama should get the nomination, I imagine he'll regret giving Michigan a big "fuck you" in the primaries, as he'll need to work that state hard for the general election. __________________ Give WAR a Chance

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01-25-2008, 11:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
Astrocreep The Undead Shaman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2,818	She is making friends by changing the rules to suit her!

01-26-2008, 01:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
mek homosexual Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 1,224 -8 Internets	Unbelievable.

01-26-2008, 02:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
Soriak Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 4,325 +15 Internets	I called it in one of the threads about it Edwards and Obama were retarded for pulling out... why take your name off the ballot? There's nothing to be gained from it and you face exactly the risk that they get their delegates back. (given those rather brutal sanctions, not so unlikely)

01-26-2008, 08:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
Kez MMO Slacker Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 235 -1 Internets	I just wish more Michigan voters had realized that and not voted for Hillary just because she was the only big name left on the ballot. At least not all the delegates are locked in to voting for her, if they do end up getting seated.

01-26-2008, 08:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
Tolanin h8 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,811 -12 Internets	saying you are gonna not seat them then changing your mind later after the election is already over would be about the most shady thing i have ever seen in politics. And the dems cried that bush '00 in florida was bad lawl.

01-26-2008, 08:42 AM	#12 (permalink)
Kez MMO Slacker Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 235 -1 Internets	From what was being said before the Primary, the Uncomitted delegates are just that, uncommitted. They still are part of the process, just not tied to one particular candidate. Unfortunately that still leaves them the option of voting for Hillary, but at least them having the option of voting for Obama or Edwards if the Michigan delegates are seated is better than nothing I guess. As disgusted as I am with the national Democratic Party machine for pandering to Iowa & New Hampshire, I'm even more disgusted and angry with the leaders of the Michigan Democratic Party for fucking things up like this in this particular election cycle.

01-26-2008, 10:02 AM	#14 (permalink)
chaos Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,827 +1 Internets	55% voted for Clinton