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Drave · 05-09-2008, 10:50 AM

For any interested parties, here she is in Wyoming (looking rough imo)

Drave · 05-09-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Arbitrary

One of the Yahoo news blurbs yesterday was talking about a OBAMA/CLINTON DREAM TICKET?

Who writes that shit, honestly. It may have been a possibility after one point but after how negative she went and all the shit she pulled she's damaged goods.

Read what you said as I just found this pic lol

Etoille · 05-09-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Burf

Etoille, if there's anything we've learned from these political threads, it's this: If you know someone who believes there are people in the center of the earth, then you must believe it, too.

I suggest you call a press conference and denounce your friend immediately.

lol awesome.

Payndar Circusdorf · 05-09-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Burf

Etoille, if there's anything we've learned from these political threads, it's this: If you know someone who believes there are people in the center of the earth, then you must believe it, too.

I suggest you call a press conference and denounce your friend immediately.

If I had that sort of friend you're damn right I would hold a press conference to denounce them. They deserve it. Consider it a very public intervention.

AladainAF · 05-09-2008, 11:42 PM

This is kinda neat. Now that Obama has (almost) sealed the nomination, no one in the Obama camp is bothering to vote in any more primaries. I wonder if they realize that an epic win from Clinton will result in her ability to throw around more ammo.

I mean really, we all knew Clinton would win in West Virginia, but 66% to 23% ? Come on.

Soriak · 05-10-2008, 12:12 AM

uhh... the last post on the CNN blog links to this thread hehe - funny

AngryGerbil · 05-10-2008, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Drave

For any interested parties, here she is in Wyoming (looking rough imo)

She's not on her 'A' game, but let's be real. Wyoming is the least populated state in the Union. The fact that she's even there is something...at the very least. Living in a "flyover" state myself, I know that it matters when a national politician pays attention to us. I can only assume Wyoming feels the same. I am finding it difficult to blame anyone for speaking there, even if it's only for a day.

I'm no Hilary fan. I'm also no, "I love Obama so much that I will YouTube an embarrassing sneeze from Hilary if I get the chance!!!1" fan.

The "piling on" that I see recently from Obama people is a tad bit disappointing and immature. Don't get me wrong, I voted for him in the primaries. But if I am going to vote for him in November....well....so far it won't be thanks to the masses of the typical Obama supporters. Cretins, most of them.

Not to single you out Drave, btw. Just to use your post as a parlay into what I'm thinking as a whole.

Soriak · 05-10-2008, 01:17 AM

Not voting for someone because of comments from random people on the internet seems like even worse a reason than not voting for him over wright. If he only had mature and well educated supporters, he'd get beaten by Gravel.

AngryGerbil · 05-10-2008, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Soriak

Not voting for someone because of comments from random people on the internet seems like even worse a reason than not voting for him over wright. If he only had mature and well educated supporters, he'd get beaten by Gravel.

Drave's comment was an example, not a rule. I'm not basing my vote on what "random people on the internet" say. I'm glad you think it's that easy for me though. A sick part of me is fucking glad that you think it's that easy for me. I'm just a dumb Yank after all.

I'm only pointing out, here on foh, that this particular subset of the foh populace is no different than what I experience on a random daily basis in either conversation or the mass media.

Soriak. Man you make me want to hug you and at the same time punch you in the face...almost daily. Feel free to take that as a compliment.

Soriak · 05-10-2008, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AngryGerbil

Drave's comment was an example, not a rule. I'm not basing my vote on what "random people on the internet" say.

Random people in real life then?

And by random, I mean people not hired by the Obama campaign. I'd take comfort in knowing the lunatics on the other side are even crazier: Hillary Is 44 (why would they use a picture of her from 10 years ago?)

I'd find a forum for McCain, but it appears his supporters are too old to use the internet. There's one for McCain here: John McCain Forum - Topix But the top couple posts are about Obama and Clinton.

Yeah, internet posts and not real life... though the US campaign is in the news here a lot, I haven't met anyone who favored McCain.

chaos · 05-10-2008, 01:58 AM

Jesus, that site is insane. And the pink reminds me of my time in the womb, troubling and drug addled.

AngryGerbil · 05-10-2008, 02:02 AM

Ok. So, I'm not sure I'm following you.

I should base my vote for President on what their hired thugs say?

Ok let me just cleave to it then: I base my vote basically, on what EVERYONE says. Internets, hired goons, media, random people, work people, professors, experts, insiders, family, whatever. I listen to them all, process it in my little primate brain, weigh the pros and cons, and try my very best to make a good decision.

I'm sorry, but that's the best I can do. Maybe you were born with a perfect political compass implanted in your head. I'm sorry that I was not.

And when I say, "What they say..." I don't mean opinions only, I mean facts also (because now-a-days, even those tend to be opinions at times..you have to sift through the shit). Should I make sure, from now on, that all opinions and facts I learn of from ANY source are filtered through the Swiss-Soriak paragon of political true north?

Lo and behold, AngryGerbil listens-to, processes, and considers what other people say and think! Even internet people like Drave! Woe be unto me! Maybe I should just tell them all to fuck off and sit here and pretend I know the absolute answer to everything ever.

Or, maybe people who think they know the absolute answer to everything are the most delusional of them all.

AladainAF · 05-10-2008, 02:13 AM

Thats interesting AG. My vote has nothing to do what anyone else says, other than the candidate himself, and things specifically connected to the candidate. the moment you take a lot of peoples words - even from multiple places, you're weighing an influence.

You're just taking those influences, and allowing yourself to be swayed by the majority. Unless, of course, 99% of the people you talk to say one thing and 1% says another, and you agree with the 1%, you would probably still vote for the 99% (unless I'm reading your post wrong)

Then again, its also your vote, so really, you should be able to vote however you wish to and come to your conclusion however you wish to, without anyone telling you otherwise

AngryGerbil · 05-10-2008, 02:22 AM

Well, yeah.

We all come to the conclusion of who we vote for in our different ways, but the fact remains that we do it based on the information we've gathered. The fact also remains that unless you are Ted Koppel or something, you probably got that information from someone else.

We are all free to get that information from whomever we want. Some of us get it only from Fox, or only from Newsweek, or only from (as Soriak would charge) 'the internet', or only from Church or only from our friends, or only from school. Fair enough. If you trust that source, then go for it.

I was only saying that I like to get it from as many sources as possible. Even the shitty ones, like the internet. Because even they have value if only to help put things in perspective. "Know thy enemy" and shit.

It's late and I'm in a cranky mood. Tomorrow I'll probably not care about Soriak anymore but tonight he pressed my buttons.

Damn Euro.

Soriak · 05-10-2008, 02:24 AM

Angry, I just meant to say you shouldn't be discouraged by people who aren't the candidate or directly involved with the campaign. There's nothing Obama can do to stop strangers from being lunatics - online or offline. Just saying his supporters shouldn't be held against him.

I'm not at all opposed to getting informed online, I do it myself all the time. Misunderstanding here, maybe?

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05-09-2008, 11:42 PM	#6980 (permalink)
AladainAF Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,547 +0 Internets	This is kinda neat. Now that Obama has (almost) sealed the nomination, no one in the Obama camp is bothering to vote in any more primaries. I wonder if they realize that an epic win from Clinton will result in her ability to throw around more ammo. I mean really, we all knew Clinton would win in West Virginia, but 66% to 23% ? Come on.

05-10-2008, 12:12 AM	#6981 (permalink)
Soriak Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 4,092 +15 Internets	uhh... the last post on the CNN blog links to this thread hehe - funny

05-10-2008, 01:17 AM	#6983 (permalink)
Soriak Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 4,092 +15 Internets	Not voting for someone because of comments from random people on the internet seems like even worse a reason than not voting for him over wright. If he only had mature and well educated supporters, he'd get beaten by Gravel.

05-10-2008, 01:58 AM	#6986 (permalink)
chaos Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,655 +1 Internets	Jesus, that site is insane. And the pink reminds me of my time in the womb, troubling and drug addled.

05-10-2008, 02:13 AM	#6988 (permalink)
AladainAF Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,547 +0 Internets	Thats interesting AG. My vote has nothing to do what anyone else says, other than the candidate himself, and things specifically connected to the candidate. the moment you take a lot of peoples words - even from multiple places, you're weighing an influence. You're just taking those influences, and allowing yourself to be swayed by the majority. Unless, of course, 99% of the people you talk to say one thing and 1% says another, and you agree with the 1%, you would probably still vote for the 99% (unless I'm reading your post wrong) Then again, its also your vote, so really, you should be able to vote however you wish to and come to your conclusion however you wish to, without anyone telling you otherwise

05-10-2008, 02:24 AM	#6990 (permalink)
Soriak Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 4,092 +15 Internets	Angry, I just meant to say you shouldn't be discouraged by people who aren't the candidate or directly involved with the campaign. There's nothing Obama can do to stop strangers from being lunatics - online or offline. Just saying his supporters shouldn't be held against him. I'm not at all opposed to getting informed online, I do it myself all the time. Misunderstanding here, maybe?