Clinton and Obama

[Phelps McManus]

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

cept none of that shit will help matters now, even if the tree fags allowed us to expand drilling and build additional refineries it wouldnt go online for maybe 10 years and how much of an impact would that have on our current usage let alone what it will be like in 10 years?

The price of barrels of oil is highly speculative. The prospect of increased supply in the future will drastically drop prices today.

[Kaio]

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

right now we are fucked and there is no silver lining or quick fix to get us out of it.

Thats why he didn't suggest any quick fixes. However, they are all helpful and are important because if we don nothing gas prices will increase much much more at this rate in the long term as well as the short.

Another big thing is to somehow control the dollars fall in the international markets. Has it stabilized yet?

[Arbitrary]

On the short term our best bet is restrengthening the dollar.

[Etoille]

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

cept none of that shit will help matters now, even if the tree fags allowed us to expand drilling and build additional refineries it wouldnt go online for maybe 10 years and how much of an impact would that have on our current usage let alone what it will be like in 10 years? the car companies will only make fuel efficient cars as long as people want them. people still love those monster trucks so they keep chugging them out of the assembly line.it would also take years for an awesome fuel sipping vehicle to hit the streets.

right now we are fucked and there is no silver lining or quick fix to get us out of it.

SUV Sales Down Sharply

SUV Sales Down

As gas prices go higher, some choose to go smaller

ABC News: Dealers see SUV glut as drivers trade in gas guzzlers

ABC News: Demand for small cars, crossovers soar along with gas prices

I tried to find the one I read earlier that said experts are predicting that not only is the love affair with SUV's in America over - but its likely never to come back.

[Phelps McManus]

Originally Posted by Arbitrary

On the short term our best bet is restrengthening the dollar.

Yeah, I am surprised that neither Obama nor McCain have come out supporting a strong dollar policy.

[Eomer]

Yeah, cause we all know that having a really strong US dollar is going to jive really well with their whole "KEEP MANUFACTURING JOBS IN AMERICA" policies...

[Soriak]

Originally Posted by Eomer

Yeah, cause we all know that having a really strong US dollar is going to jive really well with their whole "KEEP MANUFACTURING JOBS IN AMERICA" policies...

Not like they can keep those manufacturing jobs anyway, even if the dollar loses another 50% of its value. A weak dollar shouldn't even boost exports that much if you consider that most items from the US I've seen are priced seperately in other markets. Movies and software are prime examples (if only because their manufacturing cost is nearly nothing), but it applies to game consoles and other hardware also.

Sure, people might instead choose to import the stuff from a US retailer, but it seems nearly impossible to find one that actually ships overseas and doesn't just offer some $50 express delivery for a $60 item.

[Arbitrary]

Does a typical US style SUV even pass minimal standards in Europe for mileage?

[Soriak]

Originally Posted by Arbitrary

Does a typical US style SUV even pass minimal standards in Europe for mileage?

[Arbitrary]

Is it any fucking wonder people don't want our cars? Christ.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

[Kaio]

Did i mention how much I still hate a lot of the democratic party. Now that it's virtually impossible for Hillary to win without an act of god the superdelegates might as well end it.

[AladainAF]

Originally Posted by Soriak

Not like they can keep those manufacturing jobs anyway, even if the dollar loses another 50% of its value. A weak dollar shouldn't even boost exports that much if you consider that most items from the US I've seen are priced seperately in other markets. Movies and software are prime examples (if only because their manufacturing cost is nearly nothing), but it applies to game consoles and other hardware also.

Sure, people might instead choose to import the stuff from a US retailer, but it seems nearly impossible to find one that actually ships overseas and doesn't just offer some $50 express delivery for a $60 item.

I wouldn't be so fast on this.

Many US companies have completely closed their Canadian call centers due to the weak dollar. Additionally, if the USD loses another 50% of its value, as you used in your example, it would be cheaper to manufacture here than most places in the world at that point, when you consider quality of product.

[Lithose]

Hillary's downfall Guess we will see if I was correct about what I said a few months ago, awesome times ahead.

[Eomer]

Originally Posted by AladainAF

I wouldn't be so fast on this.

Many US companies have completely closed their Canadian call centers due to the weak dollar. Additionally, if the USD loses another 50% of its value, as you used in your example, it would be cheaper to manufacture here than most places in the world at that point, when you consider quality of product.

Yeah, Dell's cut well over 1000 jobs in Edmonton and Ottawa and that's almost a direct result of the USD weakness, or strength of the loonie. Then again, those are mediocre jobs anyway, and those workers will be taken up into the workforce almost instantly in Edmonton.

The weak dollar for sure would be helping out American car manufacturers, although most foreign companies now make a lot of their cars there as well.

I don't know enough about manufacturing, productivity etc to really say how much of a difference the US dollar's weakness or strength makes. However, I think it's funny that the same people calling for knee jerk reactions like ripping up NAFTA to keep manufacturing jobs are also clamouring for policies to prop up the buck, when said strength works against the first goal.