Clinton and Obama

[Astrocreep]

Originally Posted by Burf

Can anyone remember when Health Care was not a topic in a presidential campaign? I'm kinda getting sick of it, quite frankly. Someone needs to figure it out already so I can quit being irritated every time it comes up.

its one of those topics that are always spouted about by both sides in elections and ultimately nothing is ever done. like social security, abortion and illegal immigration

[FulorianC]

That's because it's one that they safely know nothing will be done about. It makes a great talking point to keep everyone distracted from the real issues, where they have the exact same positions.

[mek]

I can't agree. I think this is the first election where healthcare reform is not only possible but likely. As long as McCain doesn't win, of course

[Zora]

Originally Posted by chu

IF anyone's going to fuck shit up for Obama, it's going to be his wife. She strikes me as this most racist, nationalistic, power-hungry harpy.

And I skimmed her thesis. The basic idea was "wow fuck this I'm black and I'm opressed and because I'm black my future is looking slim". The woman is completely delusional considering how she's better off then 99.999% of the entire country, even 20 years ago.

You have to remember that if her thesis was written 25 or so years ago, when Reagan was in office, things were very different than they are now. It wasn't a great time for blacks--unemployment was very high, etc. Michelle may well have wanted to help more needy black people in difficult times. What's wrong with that? Also college students tend to be more radical. No doubt she's mellowed with time and children.

[chaos]

Has it seriously come to this? Obama's wife's college thesis paper and what it means for America? Obama once said in kindergarten that he wanted to be President? Fucking gay.

[Arbitrary]

The thesis paper of today is going to be the forum post of tomorrow.

[Astrocreep]

when Hilarity was spewing her shame on you Obama speech the other day she even alluded that his campaign was being run by karl rove. did anyone catch that?

[Tolanin]

judging someone by what they do or say in college is retarded. half the kids are retard radicals just to be different and rebel against the man and think they are so cool. Also a huge reason for no politician to give a fuck what young people think, they are as a rule really fucking dumb.

[Leto Eu`Acumen]

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

when Hilarity was spewing her shame on you Obama speech the other day she even alluded that his campaign was being run by karl rove. did anyone catch that?

and she used Karl Roves patented "aid and comfort" line in the very same speech.


The "enough with the speeches and the big rallies!" line was ....'special' too.

Guess we better stop going to political rallies before an upcoming election - Hillary is mad, and wants us to all go to our rooms and think about our behavior.

A couple days ago she was saying she was honored to be on the stage with him for the debate, then yesterday she goes on a tirade about mailings she already knew about weeks before.....then today she begins openly mocking him at her rallies.

Which Hillary do you suppose will show up at the debate Tuesday night?

Should be interesting television at least.

[Astrocreep]

Originally Posted by Leto Eu`Acumen

and she used Karl Roves patented "aid and comfort" line in the very same speech.


The "enough with the speeches and the big rallies!" line was ....'special' too.

Guess we better stop going to political rallies before an upcoming election - Hillary is mad, and wants us to all go to our rooms and think about our behavior.

A couple days ago she was saying she was honored to be on the stage with him for the debate, then yesterday she goes on a tirade about mailings she already knew about weeks before.....then today she begins openly mocking him at her rallies.

Which Hillary do you suppose will show up at the debate Tuesday night?

Should be interesting television at least.

heh yeah, im actually surprised Obama agreed to that debate, it only benefits her. she should be praising his name for giving her a chance for a comeback. cant wait for march 4th or 5th , unless she totally routs Obama in texas and ohio this shit will finally be over.

[Astrocreep]

the clinton staff is circulating this photo around.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

the clinton staff is circulating this photo around.

Just when you thought the Clintons could not get any lower.

[Zeste]

Obama definitley should win. He deserves to win and is the best candidate for the democratic party.

But, Hillary probably will win just on clout and networking alone. And then lose horribly to McCain. Which is sad because Obama would be the best president in the last 40 years at least.

[Soriak]

What's the point of that picture? I don't get it

[Sharmai]

Ehm. That photo isn't even enough for a newspot mention but its obvous the Clinton campign is going deep into the pits to dig up any dirt they can. They truly feel the weight of the coming election next week. Mabye tommorw we will get to see a game setting/changing debate.

The way I see things now Hilary has two chances.
She wins Ohio/Tx 60/40. Very unlikely
She wins Ohio/Tx by small margins. 50/50 chance
She wins 1 loses 1 small margins. 50/50 chance
She loses both small margins. 50/50chance
Obama wins both 60/40. Not VERY unlikely but still unlikely.


Her two chances are to either win by 60/40 or win by small margins. If she wins by small margins it'll take all the media clout she can muster to gain some forward momentum and hope she can pull of something in the convention (which will likely split the party into chaos if it happened)

Obama seems to be doing everything right still and minus a few minor slip ups (wife statment for example) the momentum is still with him. Better yet for the few slip ups he does have he has recovered to great advantage.


Tommorw should be interesting.