ID Chips?!

[Lowk]

The chip they are putting in your arm is in fact the mark of the beast. The coming of the anti-christ is near and motherfucking zombies are right behind him.

Is that good enough?

Originally Posted by Screamfeeder

Are you here to give the keynote address then?

By the way man..I wasn't referring to anyone who contributed thus far in the thread. The thread topic just has the potential to draw in people who are stupid and believe very deeply in inaccuracys.

[GrobbeeTrull2.0]

Originally Posted by Cadrid

The only thing that concerns me about the RFID chips is the ease with which someone could covertly steal my information. From what I've heard, these things are completely unsecured, and all the data on them could be swiped by someone with a hand-held device standing behind you in line.

Which is why those wallets i linked are nice. They are already rated and approved by various departments in the government for people who already use cards (security cards, etc) with RFID in them.

They can't be scanned unless opened and pointed towards the scanner. Every citizen in the United States will have one in 2009 with our new RealID's - the new federal driver's license, passport, and various other important information attached to one simple card. Animals already get "chipped", employers have started "chipping" their employees to make sure they're doing what they're supposed to be doing, and it's going to get worse from here on out.

[joeintokyo]

Kind of interesting thing with these chips is that all the foreigners in Japan will be getting these in their ID cards soon so that it will be easier for the police to find out who you are and if you have a valid visa without having to actually stop you on the street.

Lot of people are upset about it but since foreign residents can't vote or anything they will probably go ahead with it just like the photo/fingerprint/interview for every foreigner now entering into Japan....including those with permanent resident status.

Anyway just wanted to say.....

[Kindnugs]

Originally Posted by Screamfeeder

Thank you for addressing all my points! I feel much safer about this new technology!

So what "point" did I miss?

That you're wrong about things getting smaller and smaller?

Are they really super secure and those silly nerds at HOPE only faked the cloning of an RFID signal?

Are people just making shit up about RFID chips carrying buffer-overflow viruses?

I mean if the entire Electronic Product Code network can be shutdown via simple DoS attack, what makes these chips (some of which have EPC data in them) so much better?

I look forward to you not answering my obviously conspiracy-like crazy talk with non-answers. You are clearly a shill for "The Man" trying to keep me and my brothers down.

Look bro I never mentioned anything about the flaws that RFID had. There are plenty and I'd be surprised if the EPC standards are even "stardards" yet. I have been out of that industry for several years now so I am sure things have changed.

Your constant paranoia attempts about rfid are valid. But then what other technology doesn't have problems/flaws? Are you really that safe playing around on the internet using windows xp and purchasing things with your credit card? Didn't people bitch and moan about ssn's forever, or ATM machines? New technology brings about lots of questions and concerns and they are all viable, however annoying they are.

I do not have any godly answers to any of your questions. My main problem was trying to get my head around the physics of pinpointing someones location based on a 13.56 Mhz tag. I still am having a problem with it, but it does look like gps units are getting very very small and I will admit that does raise my eyebrows.

[Screamfeeder]

Originally Posted by Kindnugs

Your constant paranoia attempts about rfid are valid.
...I will admit that does raise my eyebrows.

I'll save you a cot in my bunker and some extra rations.

[Zerai]

It still needs a power source. So unless you got a battery shoved up your ass, you're pretty good. Eventually yeah, they'll be able to use the bioelectric current from your body, but really, you can be recognized by this thing, it's called your face. Amazing isn't it.

Read range still blows. And if you're that concerned, carry some lead on you. Metal in the vicinity of the tag really fucks up read range. Honda recently purchased some RFID units from us and we told them read range in a clean room is 2 ft. They then went into their car manufacturing plant with metal everywhere, and complained when the read range dropped to like 5 inches.

[Algol Devilstar]

Hmm I dont really care if Im tracked, I've got nothing to hide =/

[Kaosu]

Originally Posted by Algol Devilstar

Hmm I dont really care if Im tracked, I've got nothing to hide =/

Until you are caught by everyone you know coming out of that sex shop with a black mask , a black dildo, some astroglide, rope, and some wine.

You pervert.

[Astrocreep]

this is just paranoia. you are in more danger from google earth than these id tags.

[Khorum]

Screamfeeder's afraid they'll start tagging cockrings and buttplugs; then everyone will know he and VoodooChile78 are always at the same place.

[jayrebb]

I guess a lot of the people on FOH are pierced and tattooed.

Well I am not one of them. Putting anything under my skin is a violation of human rights. Nevermind foreign metal and plastic that is carcinogenic. Anyone that thinks this will become common place in people is mentally disabled.

This will never catch on, with ANY generation, except cyberpunks living in an age with no personal freedoms. Bye ID chips, cya in 3300 A.D.

[Lithose]

Guys..Don't use credit cards, if we get out of line they can shut down our cards!

Don't use banks! If we get out of line they can freeze our accounts..

Don't use the interwebs! If we rely on it they can shut if off!

Oh, wait..

[Khorum]

You think you're joking about the credit cards the banks and the fiat currency but there's some real hardcore folks around here who really take that seriously LOL. Kugbok even switched to gold coins or some shit.

[Tolanin]

i would worry alot more about the health hazzards of implants than i would about the govt tracking me.. call me in 30 years when they have had millions of them implanted for a long time and they are proven safe, til then ill use an extrenal version if i have to use one.

[jayrebb]

Originally Posted by Tolanin

i would worry alot more about the health hazzards of implants than i would about the govt tracking me.. call me in 30 years when they have had millions of them implanted for a long time and they are proven safe, til then ill use an extrenal version if i have to use one.

You know the multiple draw vials of insulin that diabetics use? 10ml Vials or so.

Every time they draw from that vial, they take a little bit of silicon rubber with it in the needle. They have proven that multiple draw vials are causing long term cancer due to the accumulation of silicon rubber in the body.

So you can forget the safety of this metal/plastic abomination being implanted in your skin. Nevermind it would be painful to be touched in that area.