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Old 09-05-2007, 07:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Vista kill performance that much?

Heres my question.

I've got a Intel core2 2.4ghz cpu, 2 gigs of 667mhz ram and a geforce 8800Gtx 768mb video card. I dropped vista on this machine and it seems fast enough. I turned off all the shit (better known as bells as whistles). But the godamn machine idles at 40% cpu on both cores.

Gaming seems smooth enough and have yet to lag on anything at all. But If i try to watch any video at all, the system bogs down for like 30 seconds. Is this a known issue with Vista, from what i can see as an os it offers 1 advantage only, Dx10, but at this moment in time, bioshock isnt enough for me to have a medium fast right that slows down on avi's.

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Old 09-05-2007, 08:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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There's something wrong with your system.

I have two systems running Vista right now:

Desktop: AMD X2 4200+, 2gb, 7900GS, Vista Ultimate
Cores: 4%
Ram: 1100mb?? (strange)

Laptop: C2D T5300, 2gb, x1400, Vista Home Premium
Cores: ~5%
Ram: ~600mb

There's definitely something wrong if your CPU is idling at 40%. I'm not sure why my desktop idles with so much ram usage though.

As far as your video issue goes, Divx hasn't released a stable Vista codec yet. To play xvid/divx/etc I use Vista Codec Pack and it works great.
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Sounds like someone needs to anti-virus and anti-spyware the shit out of their computer.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:04 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Vista is probably building its indexing database, should go away after a day or so.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Vista is a pile of shit. I use it exclusively at work (along with macOs on my 2nd machine) and it's really a struggle for me to justify using it.

If only I could work out how to 'downgrade' to XP without hastle.
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I have used Vista since day one with very little problems with any games or software.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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With the current patches that are available I can run VS 2005 and MS SQL fine on Vista. As far as games go, they run fine also. Benchmarks are basically identical in XP. Hosting MS SourceSafe on IIS7 over the internet was a lost cause. That's more of an IIS7/SourceSafe issue and not a Vista issue though.

This is all with Vista 32. Some of the stuff I used had issues with Vista 64 at the time and I haven't bothered trying it again.
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Old 09-05-2007, 02:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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On the other hand, DX10 performance on current cards sucks donkey shit.
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Old 09-05-2007, 05:16 PM   #9 (permalink)
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On the other hand, DX10 performance on current cards sucks donkey shit.
Sucking donkey shit implies it does anything at all. it's so bad I'd even question whether or not it qualifies to suck.
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:50 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Just to further show that something is up with your sys, here is my setup:

C2D E6600 (2.4ghz)
2gb ddr2 ram
nvidia 8800gts 320mb

My computer scores a 5.5 on the windows index rating thing, and I have everything set on high (aero, transitions, etc.) and my cpu's idle at 5-10%. RAM usage, however, is around 600mb idle.

BTW I also downloaded the performance and compatibility updates.
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yeah. Are you sure it's your CPU idling at 40 and not your memory? Not calling you an idiot, but memory idle with Aero and everything is absurdly high even on my PC. I've got a 2.4 duo core, 2 gbs of PC6400 and a 720mb 8800 GTX. My performance for WAR beta and anything graphically demanding was fucking crap.
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Old 09-06-2007, 01:10 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Idling on 4GB of RAM on my Vista Ultimate 64-bit with Aero on was at 38% or so or about 1700MB of RAM which is absurd. Turned off Aero and now i'm at 30% or 1222MB.

Also, turning off Aero has eliminated my driver dispaly problems to make it very infreqeunt - this applies mostly to Nvidia cards and I hope they come out with fucking drivers to fix it, because I actually liked Aero. But Aero is hardly necessary honestly.

My quiad core is currently idling at 0-5% or so and this is with Everest, RivaTuner, AIM, Firefox, antivirus all on. If it's higher than 10% on a dual core, you've got some major background issues.

BTW even with 64-bit, my Vista has been running flawlessly and smoothly and fast. Granted, I'm on a 3.15GHz quad core with 4GB of RAM, but all the driver issues are gone now that programmers are actually writing good drivers for 64-bit. 64-bit will be the future anyways, as Server 2007 is the last OS with 32-bit support from Microsoft.

Also, my games run perfectly on Vista. I'm currently running at 2560 x 1600 resolution DX10 in games like Bioshock and World in Conflict. Yes, there is a FPS drop in World in Conflict from DX9, but in Bioshock performance is the same. And honestly, even at my resolution, my single Ultra can max out all the settings (except AA, but its not nearly as necessary given I'm running at 4 Megapixels) and never fall below unplayable.
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Old 09-07-2007, 10:49 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Don't lose sleep over it Chewie. Nvidia is basically shitting all over DX10 users. they're coming out with driver fixes for the XP version of the 8800 drivers soon, but it's gonna be a while longer for the Vista ones. That's the main reason I gave up and just said fuck it and went back to XP. The driver support is fucking horrible.

You can blame MS all you want for making a power-hungry shitty OS, but an OS is only as good as the companies that supply them. Right now, Nvidia has not only dropped the ball, it punted it out of the fucking court and decided to go home.
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Old 09-08-2007, 12:03 AM   #14 (permalink)
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1112mbs?!?!

You're running too much background shit. Even with Vista Ultimate everything plus Dream Scene running on an amd 4000+ system with 2 gigs of memory I SOMETIMES top 450mb if ever that.
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:06 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Don't lose sleep over it Chewie. Nvidia is basically shitting all over DX10 users. they're coming out with driver fixes for the XP version of the 8800 drivers soon, but it's gonna be a while longer for the Vista ones. That's the main reason I gave up and just said fuck it and went back to XP. The driver support is fucking horrible.

You can blame MS all you want for making a power-hungry shitty OS, but an OS is only as good as the companies that supply them. Right now, Nvidia has not only dropped the ball, it punted it out of the fucking court and decided to go home.
Nvidia's the only one left holding the ball, I fully support them doing as little as possible to put up with the shit Microsoft is doing, while every else is jumping through their hoops. DX10 has nothing to do with it, it's all the audio/visual DRM and extra requirement crap for "premium content" that's fubaring with development. The RAM issue is just another extension of that problem, and it's all Microsoft's fault for selling out, while giving the users nothing for it. When is 4GB of RAM not 4GB of RAM? When it's on Vista.
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