Take That Scientology!

[Believe]

Originally Posted by Quineloe

They don't charge anything. You might want to familiarize yourself with the difference between donations and charges.

Perhaps not anymore, but it certainly did happen. Indulgence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's what caused Martin Luther to start the Protestant Reformation.

[Quineloe]

Originally Posted by Believe

Perhaps not anymore, but it certainly did happen. Indulgence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's what caused Martin Luther to start the Protestant Reformation.

You only had to go back more than 400 years really. I'm pretty sure you'll find some elderly people that remember those times if you look for a while.

[James]

Originally Posted by Hachima

Ohh I know plenty of people claim to be Christian but don't actually follow the teachings.

I just find it funny that people that follow "real" religions criticize the amount of money the scientists are expected to pay, when if they actually followed the teachings of their religion they would pay the same.

Scientists? Seriously? Come the fuck on. The amount of money ScientOLOGISTS are expected to pay is beyond ridiculous, and is used at least partially to fucking blackmail them if they ever decide to leave the 'church.' I don't know why you're trying to defend Scientology here, you're either a Scientologist or fucking retarded, though I guess the latter would be included in the former.

There is nothing, not a goddamn thing, 'religious' about Scientology. It's a scam, a pyramid scheme, third rate petty sci-fi bullshit cooked up to get some dudes millions of dollars and the power that comes with it. You can take your hate of the Christian church and shove it right the fuck up your ass, because compared to Scientology they're a bastion of goddamn sanity. Hell, the dude in the mental ward that shits his britches every three minutes and licks the walls is a bastion of goddamn sanity compared to Scientology. They're insane, evil, morally corrupt, and need to be wiped off the face of the fucking planet and sooner rather than later. Get that through your thick skull before you defend them by trying to attack something else.

[Erronius]

Originally Posted by Hachima

Ohh I know plenty of people claim to be Christian but don't actually follow the teachings.

And so, if someone doesn't Tithe, are you insinuating that they aren't following a teaching that is valid, that should be followed? This conflicts with the general idea amongst many sects of Christianity, that one should voluntarily "give what they can" as opposed to a set tithe, which really sets a stark contrast between Old Test and New Test. As such, given the differences in many denominations of Christianity, implying that not tithing is "ignoring" some commandment is, well, intellectually dishonest imho. You're simply cherry-picking to make your point.

Originally Posted by Hachima

I just find it funny that people that follow "real" religions criticize the amount of money the scientists are expected to pay, when if they actually followed the teachings of their religion they would pay the same.

There's a helluva difference between "passing the plate" and voluntarily dropping a $1 or a $5 in (if that lol), and being required to pay what the Scientologists do. I could rattle off a list of denominations that don't tithe and instead foster voluntary contributions; are you going to tell me that they aren't "real" Christians because they don't further some outdated, antiquidated practice from the Old Testament, that in many locations was taken up by the state as taxes instead as the centuries rolled by?

[Mageling]

Originally Posted by Hachima

So As a christian if you make 100k a year, in 10 years you have paid 100k to your church. Scientology doesn't sound all that expensive anymore =)

Except for that whole part that if you tithe with checks, generally your church sends you forms to be able to claim most/all of it on your tax return.


Aside that, you can't even say "You're going to hell if you don't tithe," as most modern Christianity focuses on forgiveness for your sins. There aren't as many set in stone rules that you absolutely have to follow to get into heaven, as many Christian pastors will attest to, and ultimately admitting that you are giving yourself to God is seen as that moment of forgiveness.


As many Christian teachings will say, God gave his son's life to wash away our sins, and it's by acceptiing Him as your savior that you will be forgiven for your sins as long as you repent for them.


This is the view of most churches here in the NW at least that are more your non-demoninational Christian. Things elsewhere may be significantly different though.

[Zerai]

You guys are missing the point.

Christianity years ago is just as much a cult as scientology is now. Maybe in 400 years, scientology will be more mainstream. Hopefully we can kill it first though.

Religion starts as a cult, and becomes a religion. Scientology just isn't there yet. Their beliefs and required money is no different than Christianity in the dark ages. Such as

The later Middle Ages saw the growth of considerable abuses, such as the unrestricted sale of indulgences by professional "pardoners"

While society may have evolved...people are still just as fucking stupid and gullible as they were back then.

The only difference between a cult and a religion is how accepted into mainstream and diluted it is (which kind of go hand in hand).

[headspace]

The difference is that Christianity, for the most part, was never a for profit enterprise. There is no way you can argue scientology isn't actively trying to generate profit. What makes it bad is that they claim to be a religion to get tax exempt status.

[Occido]

Originally Posted by Zerai

You guys are missing the point.

Christianity years ago is just as much a cult as scientology is now. Maybe in 400 years, scientology will be more mainstream. Hopefully we can kill it first though.

Religion starts as a cult, and becomes a religion. Scientology just isn't there yet. Their beliefs and required money is no different than Christianity in the dark ages. Such as


While society may have evolved...people are still just as fucking stupid and gullible as they were back then.

The only difference between a cult and a religion is how accepted into mainstream and diluted it is (which kind of go hand in hand).

Cult: followers of an exclusive system of religious beliefs and practices

Religion: followers that believe in a set of attitudes, beliefs, and practices pertaining to supernatural power.”

Yeah.. they're pretty much the same thing.

[Gurgeh]

Originally Posted by Quineloe

somewhat OT, but is it true they're getting rid of the regional codes on the French license plates?
Kinda sucks, was good to know that 75 meant trouble.

You can put whatever you want there now, yeah.

[James]

Can you include logical statements and such? Like, say if you were trying to figure out if 8 was the same thing as say the variable D. Could you put that on there?

[Hachima]

Wasn't there a time when being able to read the bible was restricted to nobility? You basically had to have the money to have a great education and learn Latin to even read/understand it?

Sounds like Scientology is on the right track of becoming a great religion, since that's what happened with Christianity.

[Believe]

Originally Posted by Zerai

You guys are missing the point.

Christianity years ago is just as much a cult as scientology is now. Maybe in 400 years, scientology will be more mainstream.

Pretty much true. Christianity is as far fetched as Scientology. But you don't see the entire world scoffing at Christianity like you do Scientology.

[James]

Ok, you people are fucking retarded. Let's lay this shit out here so we can get rid of this stupid CHRISANITY IS GHEY LOLOllz bullshit you stupid motherfuckers are spewing. It has nothing, NOT A GOD DAMN THING, to do with Scientology being an Evil fucking Empire spawned from some limp dick's asshole. Oh, it's ok if a dog shits your bed at night, after all you shit your own bed at the age of 3 so it's all the same! It's fucking not, and even if it was wouldn't you beat the everliving shit out of the dog first chance you got?

Same shit here. Quit trying to pawn off Scientology's fucking evilness as acceptable because, OH, the Christians are too! Well if the Christians are so goddamn evil, and you had a chance to stop them when they formed, don't you think you might fucking try? Or are you the kind of dumb motherfucker that sat around two thousand years ago going, "well the Pagans kill sheeps and pigs and shit and you seem to be cool with them! Christianity is cool because of that!" Fuck you.

I seriously don't get how you can sit here and call Scientology more of the fucking same like it's no big fuckin deal. Pull your heads out of your fucking asses and read some shit about them some time. This is not just some religious fucking startup here. Nothing the Christians did OVER A MILLENNIUM AGO has any bearing what-so-ever to what is happening here today. You think Scientologists are so fucking cool, why don't you cough up the dough, go suck their dicks, and become one.

I mean, what the fuck. Defending Scientology? Are you guys fucking insane? Jesus fucking Christ. Get fucked, and I mean by a big black dude with a spiked fucking cock that's literally ON FIRE. That shit is completely unacceptable. If you're not bashing the shit out of Scientology, you really don't have a place in humanity, let alone this fucking board.

Jesus. You fucking people.

[Zhaun's_Shade]

Originally Posted by James

I mean, what the fuck. Defending Scientology? Are you guys fucking insane? Jesus fucking Christ.

I think they are attempting to shit on Catholics and doing the whole "all religions are the same" shit.

[James]

See, it's the second part I take exception to. You can hate Catholics and Christians and fucking Buddhists for all I care, BUT WHY NOT HATE SCIENTOLOGISTS TOO? It's easy, just give it a shot. All you have to do is drop the apathetic fucking bullshit and bash ENCAVE some skulls in.